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    DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
    Minutes of a Meeting of the Senate of Simon Fraser University held on
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    Monday, January 5, 2004 at 7:00 pm in Room 3210 WMC
    Open Session
    Present: ?
    Stevenson, Michael
    President and Chair of Senate
    Absent:
    Atkins, Stella
    Apaak, Clement
    Brennand, Tracy
    Beynon, Peter
    Budd, James
    Dunsterville, Valerie
    Clayman, Bruce
    Fizzell, Maureen
    Collinge, Joan (representing C. Yerbury)
    Gill, Alison
    Copeland, Lynn
    Gordon, Robert
    da Silva, Gisele
    Grimmett, Peter
    D'Auria, John
    Higgins, Anne
    Dickinson, John
    Krane, Bill
    Driver, Jon
    Lemay, Joanne
    Fung, Edward
    Mauser, Gary
    Giacomantonio, Chris
    McArthur, James
    Gregory, Titus
    Naef, Barbara
    Gupta, Kamal
    Thandi, Ranbir
    Haunerland, Norbert
    Tombe, Trevor
    Heaney, John
    Van Aalst, Jan
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    Hira, Andy
    Wessel, Sylvia
    Honda, Barry
    Wong, Josephine
    Horvath, Adam
    Wong, Milton
    Kaila, Pam
    Woodbury, Rob
    Kalanj, Tiffany
    Yoo, Rick
    Lewis, Brian
    Love, Ernie
    McFetridge, Paul
    Percival, Paul
    In attendance:
    Peters, Joseph
    Bell, KC
    Pierce, John
    Blackman, Roger
    Plischke, Michael
    Denham, Judy
    Rozell, Sara
    Krebs, Dennis
    Sears, Camilla
    Woodham, Amanda
    Scott, Jamie
    Shaker, Paul
    Smith, Don
    Waterhouse, John
    Weeks, Dan
    Heath, Nick, Acting Registrar
    Watt, Alison, Director, University Secretariat
    Grant, Bobbie, Recording Secretary

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    1.
    Approval of the Agenda
    The Agenda was approved as distributed.
    2.
    Approval of the Minutes of the Open Session of December
    1, 2003
    The Minutes were approved as distributed.
    3.
    Business Arising from the Minutes
    There was no business arising from the Minutes.
    4.
    Report of the Chair
    Referring to the weather advisory regarding the possibility of a significant snowfall,
    Senate was advised that information about closure of the University would be
    distributed through the media and be announced on the University's web site and
    on the road conditions phone line.
    Senate was advised that the Government had made changes to the University Act,
    the majority of which reflected minor legal housekeeping issues. However, some
    of the changes affected the membership of the Senate and the Board of Governors.
    Order-In-Council appointments on Senate have been eliminated. Current OIC
    appointments will continue until the expiry of their term but will not be replaced so
    Senate will gradually lose four members. In addition, it will no longer be a
    'requirement for faculty and students to be 'full-time' in order to be elected to
    Senate and the Board of Governors, and Board members no longer need to be
    resident in British Columbia. There was also a slight change in wording with
    respect to the authorization required to run a deficit.
    5.
    question Period
    No Pre-requisite checks following submission of final grades for Fall
    2003
    semester.
    It was noted that the new student information system was not capable of
    automatically dropping students who have an incomplete prerequisite for a course
    for which they have enrolled before the release of grades for the prerequisite
    course, and it was now the student's responsibility to drop the course voluntarily if
    he/she does not meet prerequisite requirements. Recent experience in some
    departments has indicated that students are not dropping and N. Haunerland
    questioned what was being done to mitigate this problem.
    Senate was advised that this issue was a known gap in the functionality of the new
    system that had been identified early, but that was not easily fixed because
    prerequisite checking was an on-line process that existed only at the time the
    enrolment request was made. There were plans to provide departments with
    reports identifying students in this situation early in the semester but the reports
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    . situation including getting instructors to make announcements or sending a
    university-wide email about not continuing in courses if the students hadn't
    satisfactorily completed prerequisites.
    The Chair reported that this issue had been discussed at length by Chairs and
    Directors and reported that it appeared to be a matter of great concern particularly
    within the Faculty of Science. As a result of those discussions, the Chair reiterated
    his understanding that reports identifying some of the problems would be available
    to departments. However, because of the various types of prerequisite structures,
    these reports would not identify all cases. It should be ascertained when that report
    would be available and information should be conveyed to instructors advising
    them that there is this problem in the new system and there may be students in
    their course that have not fulfilled the prerequisites. It was also the Chair's
    understanding that specialists attached to the SIMS team would be in contact with
    individual departments where this was a problem to review the extent of the
    problem, the nature of the special complicating factors that wouldn't be caught by
    the basic reports, and then a general report on what should be done would be
    prepared.
    The Chair felt it was important that the basic reports be made available to
    instructors quickly and requested the Vice President Academic to convey the
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    discussion and concerns of Senate to the Chief Information Officer. The Chair also
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    indicated that this issue would be reported back to Senate.
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    Reports of Committees
    A)
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    Undergraduate Curriculum Implementation Task Force
    i)
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    Paper S.04-1 - Discussion Paper on the Implementation of University-wide
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    Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements
    The following members of the Committee were in attendance in order to respond
    to questions: Dennis Krebs (Chair), Roger Blackman, and KC Bell.
    In order to permit wide-ranging discussion, the chair suggested that Senate move
    into a Committee of the Whole
    Moved by P. Percival, seconded by D. Smith
    "that Senate move into Committee of the Whole"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
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    Discussion began with an overview of the process by the Chair of the Task Force.
    Senate was advised that the heart of the recommendations passed by Senate in

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    principle were unchanged. However, the exact ways in which to achieve those
    goals have slightly changed. The Implementation Task Force feels strongly that
    students need to be prepared to take writing and quantitative courses and that
    quantitative courses ought to be defined broadly to include courses that were non-
    mathematical in nature. However, the earlier committee suggested that students be
    admitted to SFU in the current way and then students who did not receive high
    grades in English 12
    or in the Math 11 or
    12
    would then have to take an English or
    a Math proficiency test as a prerequisite for entering the university level writing or
    quantitative course. The present committee felt that students ought to be screened
    prior to admission to identify those students who had not made satisfactory
    progress in English and recommends that all students applying to Simon Fraser,
    except those who obtain excellent grades in English
    12
    (or equivalent), be required
    to take a language proficiency test. The Learning Proficiency Index (LPI) has been
    identified as the most appropriate test, particularly since it is used by both UBC and
    UVic and most students already take it. With respect to the assessment of
    quantitative abilities, the Implementation Committee recommends that instructors
    of first year Q courses be encouraged to develop tests that assess the abilities
    necessary for their course and require their students to take those tests prior to or at
    the first course session. The main reason for the deviation from the previous
    committee's recommendation in this regard pertains to the special kind of
    quantitative courses envisioned for students in the Humanities. In addition, the
    implementation Task Force recommends that only students who can be helped
    with writing or math be admitted and, in conjunction with this recommendation, is
    the creation of a Student Learning Centre and a foundational writing course.
    The following points are a summary of the lengthy discussion.
    • Reference was made to page 8 of the report with regard to the W course
    requirements. The original recommendation, which was approved in principle
    by Senate, required six credits of courses that fostered writing ability. The
    present recommendation specifies that at least one of the courses should be an
    upper division course. Opinion was expressed that this was a significant
    change from the original recommendation. In response, it was explained that
    the committee had two competing lines of thought. On one hand, it was felt
    that completing the writing requirement at the start of the student's program
    would benefit the student the most; on the other hand, it was felt that it would
    be more beneficial if the writing experience was done in conjunction with their
    major. Since two courses were required, the committee felt it was a reasonable
    solution to require one lower division and one upper division course.
    • While in agreement that entry requirements with respect to quantitative and
    writing ability for university admission were essential for all disciplines, opinion
    was expressed that once students were admitted they should be allowed to
    chose their own breadth courses. It was pointed out that different Faculties have

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    . different needs and what may be valuable in some Faculties may not be
    beneficial in others and having inflexible, overall requirements for all students
    in all faculties was believed to be a major flaw in the recommendations.
    • Disappointment was expressed about recommendation three concerning
    quantitative proficiency which recommends that instructors be encouraged to
    develop tests to test specific knowledge. Opinion was expressed that this
    proposal went against the spirit of the original recommendation which
    suggested that SFU adopt minimum standards in three areas - writing,
    quantitative and breadth so that the University can guarantee that SFU students
    meet certain minimum standards, and encouraging faculty to develop
    quantitative proficiency tests will not guarantee minimum standards. Opinion
    was expressed that the original concept seems to have been abandoned and it
    was suggested that the committee reconsider this recommendation.
    • Concern was expressed with respect to recommendation six which implied that
    the University would be responsible for providing remedial courses for students
    admitted under this category and clarification was sought as to why this
    recommendation was necessary in light of recommendation one which would
    require students to reach a certain level of proficiency prior to admission.
    Recommendation six was intended to help students who are admissible but
    . have been identified as having marginal writing skills and the foundation course
    would ease their transition into the required writing course. Although course
    instructors would give some remedial assistance, the design of the course would
    teach students to write at a university level. It was the Committee's belief that
    the University should not be admitting students who require more remedial
    work than the University could provide and the University should not be in the
    business of providing a lot of remedial assistance.
    • Referring to the recommendation concerning post-admission tests of
    quantitative proficiency, it was suggested that the tests should be pre-admission
    and that the arguments for having post-admission tests were unconvincing. It
    was also suggested that if standardized tests were not acceptable for Humanities
    then Humanities students could be exempt from the tests or tested in another
    way rather than making a change which affects everyone else.
    • The level of writing skills of international students was raised as an issue by
    several Senators and it was suggested that more attention should be paid to this
    matter. It was suggested that international students be offered the option of an
    in-depth linguistic and cultural orientation preparation, such as the English
    Bridge Program, rather than simply requiring a particular level in an English
    proficiency test.

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    • Suggestion was made that the University should have a regular writing centre
    that was discipline specific and also geared toward graduate students.
    • Reference was made to the Centre for Writing Intensive Learning. It was
    suggested that expectations in terms of faculty requirements to create writing
    intensive courses were onerous and may be affecting the number of courses that
    could be offered under this initiative.
    • Concern was expressed that there was no mention of additional TA support in
    the documentation, especially in relation to writing intensive courses. It was
    noted that the Committee has recommended that TAs be given additional
    support and that recommendation has already been implemented. It was also
    pointed out that the possibility of providing training to TAs to give writing
    intensive courses, and the development of graduate courses for teaching
    assistants in writing within their discipline were also being considered.
    • Concern was expressed that the recommendations could be implemented
    without the creation of the student learning centre and it was suggested that one
    should not happen without the other. It was acknowledged that having both
    occur concurrently would significantly increase the costs and it was hoped that
    the extra funding needed would be sought and not be drawn from the current
    operating budget. Senate was advised that meetings had already taken place
    with the Vice President Advancement about raising funds for a student learning
    centre. Suggestion was made that consideration be given to how a student
    learning centre located on campus would be able to serve non-traditional
    students and students not taking courses at the Burnaby location.
    • It was suggested that the proposed Task Force should have student
    representation.
    • Opinion was expressed that there appeared to be an imbalance between
    Faculties as to modifications. Reference was made to the change concerning
    the requirements for the quantitative proficiency test as a result of objections
    raised by the Humanities but when concerns were expressed by the Faculty of
    Science with regard to the breadth requirements it was pointed out that no
    changes were possible because they were part of what Senate had approved. It
    was suggested that the Task Force should be prepared to revisit this issue and
    consider some flexibility within the requirements.
    In response to an inquiry as to whether it was possible to make changes to the
    recommendations, Senate was advised that consultations were ongoing and that it
    was the intent of the Task Force to meet with all of the Faculty Curriculum
    Committees, have open forums, and meet with as many departments and programs
    as possible over the next couple of months. Recommendations would be revised in

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    • light of these consultations and a revised document would then be distributed to
    the University community and to Senate to allow comment on the revised
    recommendations. Following that final consultation, the recommendations would
    come back to Senate for approval.
    Moved by T. Gregory, seconded by C. Sears
    "that Senate move out of Committee of the Whole"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    On behalf of Senate, the Chair thanked members of the Committee for their
    participation at Senate and for their ongoing work on this project.
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    Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
    i)
    Paper
    S.04-2 -
    Curriculum Revisions - Faculty of Applied Sciences
    Moved by
    J.
    Dickinson, seconded by B. Lewis
    "that Senate approve the change to Grade 11 Admission
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    Requirements in Kinesiology for British Columbia and Yukon
    applicants, as set forth in
    S.04-2,
    effective
    2004-3"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies,
    acting under delegated authority, deleted one course, approved four new courses,
    and approved minor revisions to existing courses and programs in Kinesiology and
    Communication.
    ii)
    Paper S.04-3 -
    Curriculum Revisions - Faculty of Education
    Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies,
    approved four new courses and minor revisions to existing courses and programs in
    the Faculty of Education.
    iii)
    Paper
    S.04-4 -
    Curriculum Revisions - Faculty of Science
    Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies,
    acting under delegated authority, approved six new courses and minor revisions to
    existing courses and programs in Biological Sciences, Mathematics, Molecular
    Biology and Biochemistry, Physics, Statistics/Actuarial Science.

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    Senate Committee on Continuing Studies
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    i)
    Paper S.04-5 -
    Criteria and Guidelines for the Establishment of Certificates
    for Successful Completion of Non-credit Courses
    Moved by
    J.
    Coll inge, seconded by
    J.
    Waterhouse
    "that Senate approve the revisions to the Criteria and Guidelines for
    the Establishment of Certificates and Diplomas for Successful
    Completion of Programs of Non-Credit courses as set forth in
    S.04-5"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    ii)
    Paper S.04-6 -
    Annual Report 2001/2002
    and 2002/2003
    (For Information)
    The Annual Report of Senate Committee on Continuing Studies for the years
    2001/2002 and 2002/2003
    was received by Senate for information.
    iii)
    Paper
    S.04-7 -
    Report - Non-Credit Certificate for the Object Technology
    Program (For Information)
    J. Denham and A. Woodham, Program Directors for Applied Science Programs in
    Continuing Studies were in attendance in order to respond to questions.
    Senate received a report on the Non-Credit Certificate for the Object Technology
    Program for information. This report was submitted in compliance to Senate's
    request that a report on the academic and financial aspects of the program be
    provided to Senate following three years of operation.
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    Senate Graduate Studies Committee
    i)
    Paper S.04-8 -
    Curriculum Revisions - Faculty of Applied Sciences
    Senate received information that the Senate Graduate Studies Committee, acting
    under delegated authority, approved four new courses and minor revisions to
    existing courses and programs in Computing Science, Kinesiology, and Resource
    and Environmental Management.
    ii)
    Paper
    S.04-9 -
    Curriculum Revisions - Faculty of Arts
    Senate received information that the Senate Graduate Studies Committee, acting
    under delegated authority, approved four new courses and minor revisions to
    existing courses and programs in Criminology, Economics, and Psychology.

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    iii)
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    Paper
    S.04-10 -
    Curriculum Revisions - Faculty of Science
    Senate received information that the Senate Graduate Studies Committee, acting
    under delegated authority, approved four new courses and minor revisions to
    existing courses in Biological Sciences.
    7.
    Other Business
    There was no other business.
    8.
    Information
    The date of the next regularly scheduled meeting of Senate is Monday, February
    2,
    2004.
    The Open Session adjourned at 8:35 pm and moved directly into Closed Session.
    Alison Watt
    Director, University Secretariat
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