DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
    Minutes of a Meeting of the Senate of Simon Fraser University held on?
    Monday, September 16, 2002 at 7:00 pm in Room 3210 WMC
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    Open Session
    Present: Stevenson, Michael
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    Absent:
    President and Chair of Senate
    Andrews, Ian
    Apaak, Clement
    Atkins, Stella
    Beynon, Peter
    Bourke, Brynn
    Blackman, Roger
    Clayman, Bruce
    Copeland, Lynn
    D'Auria, John
    Driver, Jon
    Garcia, Carlos
    Gordon, Robert
    Grimmett, Peter
    Haunerland, Norbert
    Higgins, Anne
    Jackson, Margaret
    Jensen, Britta
    Kemper, Michelle
    Krane, Bill
    Lewis, Brian
    Love, Ernie
    Mathewes, Rolf (representing W
    McFetridge, Paul
    Naef, Barbara
    Percival, Paul
    Peters, Joseph
    Phipps, Kate
    Poirier, Guy
    Poletz, Taira
    Russell, Robert
    Smith, Don
    Thandi, Ranbir
    Tyab, Azam
    Vaisey, Jacques
    Van Aalst, Jan
    Waterhouse, John
    Weldon, Larry
    Wessel, Silvia
    Yerbury, Cohn
    Aloi, Santa
    Chen, Danny
    Dunsterville, Valerie
    Gill, Alison
    Gupta, Kamal
    Heaney, John
    Hill, Ross
    Horvath, Adam
    Jones, Cohn
    Jones, John
    Mauser, Gary
    McArthur, James
    Warren, Joel
    Wong, Milton
    Zaichkowsky, Judith
    In attendance:
    Bartholomew, Kim
    Hanson, Phil
    Weeks, Daniel
    Davidson)
    Heath, Ron, Dean of Student Services and Registrar
    Grant, Bobbie, Recording Secretary
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    1.
    Approval of the Agenda
    The Agenda was approved as distributed.
    2.
    Approval of the Minutes of the Open Session of July 8, 2002
    A typing error (Hegberg should be Hedberg) on page 4 was noted. Reference
    was made to the section on the Woodsworth Chair on page 5. As currently
    written the word 'its' would refer to the Department. Suggestion was made that
    the sentence be reworded to clarify the location and precise duties of the Chair.
    Following these amendments, the Minutes were approved.
    3.
    Business Arising from the Minutes
    There was no business arising from the Minutes.
    4.
    Report of the Chair
    On behalf of Senate, the Chair extended a welcome to the following new
    Senators: Ian Andrews, Acting Dean of Education, Peter Beynon, Convocation
    Senator, Don Smith, OIC appointed Senator, and Guy Poirier, faculty Senator
    from the Faculty of Arts. The Chair noted that both Lay Senators were past SFU
    students and past Presidents of the Alumni Association with experience and
    strong connections with SFU.
    The Chair reported that the new SFU Surrey campus had been formally opened
    by the Lieutenant Governor, Iona Campagnola (Hon. LLD) and the Premier,
    Gordon Campbell (MBA graduate of SFU). At the opening ceremony much
    credit was given to SFU for keeping with its traditions of innovation and serious
    commitment to the needs of the wider community. The Chair advised that the
    very successful opening and merger would not have been possible without the
    enormous amount of hard work by many people in the University and he wished
    to acknowledge these efforts, particularly those of the transition team working
    under the Vice-President Academic.
    The enrolment target for Surrey campus was to double the enrolment formerly at
    Tech BC. The Chair was pleased to report that not only has that target been met
    but enrolments have gone considerably beyond the target due to higher retention
    and acceptance rates in the Surrey programs. Final data was not yet available
    but it appeared that there has been a general increase in applications to SFU as
    well as an increase in retention and acceptance rates and enrolments are likely to
    be 5% above the overall enrolment targets for this year. Expectations are that the
    Senate Committee on Enrolment Management and Planning would discuss the
    impact of this increase on future semesters.
    The Chair also reported that a proposal to initiate construction of a new student
    residence will be presented to the Board of Governors at its next meeting. The
    new residence will be targeted at first year students and will include a meal
    service plan. In response to an inquiry about the source of capital funding for the
    project, the Chair indicated that the funding would be borrowed and paid off
    through a long term business plan through rent. The Chair was asked whether

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    • there were any plans to increase graduate student housing. Senate was informed
    that although the proposed expansion was directed towards first year students,
    graduate students would indirectly benefit from the conference facilities that
    were built into the plans and from the hotel like accommodation that would be
    available for short term stays. The Chair advised that the University was aware
    of the need for graduate housing and explained that plans for expanded facilities
    were being discussed.
    Referring to the visible removal of trees in the eastern most fringe of the campus,
    the Chair advised that this was the start of the new SFU UniverCity Community.
    He explained that the tree removal was required as part of the environmental
    management plan and that the short term damage was needed for long term
    sustainability and environmental protection.
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    5, ?
    Ouestion Period
    There were no questions.
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    6. ?
    Reports of Committees
    A)
    Senate Nominating Committee
    i) ?
    Paper S.02-61 - Elections
    Senate was advised that no further nominations were received and that Nancy
    Earle was elected by acclamation as an Alternate Graduate Student to the Senate
    Library Committee/ Library Penalties Appeal Committee; Don Smith was elected
    by acclamation as the Lay Senator to the Senate Graduate Awards Adjudication
    Committee, and Peter Beynon was elected as a Senator at-large to the Electoral
    Standing Committee. All other vacancies would be carried forward to the next
    meeting.
    B)
    Senate Committee on Universit
    y
    Priorities
    1) ?
    Paper S.02-62 - Proposal - Master of Public Polic
    y
    Program
    Moved by J
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    Waterhouse, seconded by R. Blackman
    "that Senate approve and recommend to the Board of Governors
    the proposal for a Master's of Public Policy program in the Faculty
    of Arts, as outlined in S.02-62"
    N. Olewiler, Acting Director, Public Policy Program was in attendance in order
    to respond to questions.
    Opinion was expressed that although the proposal appeared to be very research
    based, it was intended for students desiring a professional career and there was
    felt to be a disconnect between what the program was based on and how it was
    being presented to the community. Suggestion was made that there should be at
    least some reference or preamble addressing the emphasis of it being a
    professional program. Senate's attention was drawn to the preamble on page 2

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    which described the professional emphasis of the program and the focus on
    applied research. ?
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    Referring to the same paragraph on page 2, the inconsistency of the phrase
    'relatively unique' was noted and grammatical errors were noted in the last
    bulleted section on page 23. Correction would be made by editorial revision.
    Concern was expressed that the course descriptions for the Research Techniques
    and Quantitative Methods courses, particularly MPP 805, appeared to be similar
    to descriptions of introductory undergraduate courses. Suggestion was made
    that the courses should either have some reference to graduate level work or not
    be described as introductory courses. It was agreed that the wording would be
    changed to reflect that the level would be appropriate to a graduate program. It
    was also suggested that the Department of Statistics should be consulted when
    designing the details of these two statistics courses.
    Reference was made to the MBA program and inquiry was made as to whether
    the MPP program would have a similar focus towards students already in the
    work force. Senate was advised that the focus was different and expectations
    were to have a balance between students coming directly out of an
    undergraduate degree program and students who are mid-career. Clarification
    was requested as to how different types of students would get equal access to the
    program. Senate was advised that there was no specific formula but academic
    standards would not be sacrificed for work experience nor would someone with
    considerable work experience be discriminated against. Since this was a new
    program there was no way of knowing what the student catchment would be but
    efforts would be made to have an interesting and highly qualified mix of
    students. In response to concerns about the Director or the Steering Committee
    making decisions on admissions, it was pointed out that academic programs
    make recommendations, not decisions, on admissions. Brief discussion followed
    with respect to the process for admitting graduate students.
    Discussion turned to the costs of the program and the fees to be charged, and
    Senate was advised about the process which resulted in the proposed tuition fee.
    The differential fees are expected to cover the teaching costs of the program and
    to enable funds to be set aside for scholarships and bursaries for students with a
    demonstrated financial need. It was pointed out that a firm budget had not yet
    been determined nor had the differential fees been formulated but based on soft
    figures the Faculty of Arts felt it was in a position to support the program.
    In response to a suggestion that Senate receive a report at some point on the
    success or failure rate of the program, the Chair indicated that since all programs
    were reviewed on a regular basis, Senate would receive a report through that
    process.
    Discussion turned to the administrative reporting structure of the program and
    the role of the program director. Senate's attention was drawn to the section on
    governance in the documentation. A brief explanation was provided with
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    advised that the process outlined was in accordance with University policies and
    procedures.
    The issue of internships was raised and it was stressed that they are very
    important to the success of the program. There was little mention of them in the
    documentation and it was noted that contacts should be initiated now so as to
    have the internships in place when the program begins. Senate was advised that
    response has been generally positive and that verbal commitments for
    internships have already been received from numerous agencies, particularly in
    Ottawa and in the Vancouver area.
    In response to an inquiry about the inclusion of an ethics course, it was pointed
    out that ethics would likely be incorporated as a module in the introductory and
    applied policy analysis course sequence. There were also some excellent ethics
    courses available within the University which could be included.
    Reference was made to the housing of the program in a new Division of
    Professional Programs in the Faculty of Arts and inquiry was made as to the
    status of that proposal. Senate was advised that the proposal which was still
    within the Faculty of Arts was not yet fully formulated and although the MPP
    program may eventually be included in the new Division of Professional
    Programs, it was able to stand alone with the appropriate reporting structure and
    financial resources. The proposed new Division will group together a number of
    programs with a common location and a common theme in order to optimize
    resources.
    Concern was expressed that students were not involved in the development of
    the program and opinion raised that the process would have been more
    accountable and transparent with student input. It was stressed that indeed
    students had been involved throughout the process with elected student
    representation on the Faculty of Arts Graduate Studies Committee, the
    Assessment Committee for New Graduate Programs, the Senate Graduate
    Studies Committee, the Senate Committee on University Priorities, and Senate.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    ii) ?
    Paper S.02-63 - External Review - Department of Philosophy
    Moved by J
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    Waterhouse, seconded by R. Blackman
    "that Senate concurs with the recommendations from the Senate
    Committee on University Priorities concerning advice to the
    Department of Philosophy on priority items resulting from the
    external review as outlined in S.02-62"
    P. Hanson, Chair of the Department was in attendance in order to respond to
    questions.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED

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    iii) Paper S.02-64 - External Review - Department of Psychology ?
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    Moved by J,. Waterhouse, seconded by R. Blackman
    "that Senate concurs with the recommendations from the Senate
    Committee on University Priorities concerning advice to the
    Department of Psychology on priority items resulting from the
    external review as outlined in S.02-64"
    K. Bartholomew, former Chair of the Department and D. Weeks, current Chair of
    the Department were in attendance in order to respond to questions.
    It was noted that the external reviewers recommended that the department not
    pursue a Psy.D. degree but the department had chosen to continue with the
    exploration of this option. Senate was advised that this was a controversial issue
    within the field of Psychology and within the Department. Students were
    enthusiastic about this option and there was a demand for this kind of program
    so the department felt it warranted further investigation.
    Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
    MOTION CARRIED
    iv)
    Paper S.02-65 - External Review - Continuing Studies
    Moved by J
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    Waterhouse, seconded by R. Blackman
    "that Senate concurs with the recommendations from the Senate
    Committee on University Priorities concerning advice to the Office
    of Continuing Studies on priority items resulting from the external
    review as outlined in S.02-65"
    A grammatical error in point 3 was noted and a revision of the word 'its' to
    'their' was accepted as a friendly amendment.
    Reference was made to point 5 and discussion ensued with respect to the term
    'laddering'. In response to an inquiry, laddering was defined to mean moving
    from one program to a different program at a higher level. Concern was
    expressed about the transfer of credit from non-credit programs to credit
    programs. Senate was advised that non-credit certificate programs could be
    used for prior learning assessment and the Integrated Studies Program was cited
    as an example for the laddering process. It was stressed that prior learning
    assessment was used very carefully and conservatively in determining
    admissions to the Integrated Studies Program and opinion was expressed that
    this was not a good example for the use of laddering.
    It was pointed out that the acceptance of the report did not endorse the process,
    but merely instructed the Ad Hoc Committee to Review Life Long Learning to
    have
    discuss
    to come
    the issue
    to Senate
    and that
    for
    any
    discussion.
    specific proposals for a laddering process would
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    . Reference was made to point 3 and concern was expressed about the emphasis
    given to on-line learning. Suggestion was made that this was a controversial
    issue that needed to be looked at very closely with regard to the implications for
    the university and whether the university should be developing this technology.
    A suggestion to incorporate the words 'as appropriate' in the second sentence
    following the word 'activities' was accepted as a friendly amendment.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    C)
    Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
    i) ?
    Paper S.02-67 - Proposed Changes to Grade Point Average needed for
    graduation
    Moved by R. Blackman, seconded by J. Waterhouse
    "that Senate approve the proposed revision to the grade point
    average needed for graduation as set forth in S.02-67"
    Senate received a brief explanation with respect to the difference between
    program GPA and graduation GPA. Opinion was expressed that the revised
    wording was confusing in that the term 'GPA' was used inconsistently in the
    proposal to mean two different things. As a result of discussion, a friendly
    amendment was accepted to change the first sentence under the heading Grade
    Point Averages Needed for Graduation in the proposed column on page 2, to
    read "Grade point averages (GPAs) used for graduation are the minimum....".
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    D)
    Senate Committee on Continuing Studies
    i)
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    Paper S.02-68 - Annual Report (For Information)
    The Annual Report of the Senate Committee on Continuing Studies was received
    by Senate for information.
    E)
    Senate Librar
    y
    Committee
    i) ?
    Paper S.02-69 - Services to International Baccalaureate Students
    Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by L. Copeland
    "that Senate approve the cancellation of the free borrower card
    service to lB students effective 1 September 2002"
    Senate was provided with a brief background explanation of this issue and was
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    advised that the benefits of the program do not warrant the cost.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED

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    7.
    Other Business ?
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    i) ?
    Paper S.02-70 - Enrolment - Faculty of Education (For Information)
    Senate received corrected data with respect to enrolments in the Faculty of
    Education for information.
    8.
    Information
    The date of the next regular meeting of Senate is Monday, October 7, 2002.
    Open Session adjourned at 8:45 pm. Following a short recess, the Assembly moved into
    Closed Session.
    Ron Heath
    Dean of Student Services and Registrar
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