DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
    Minutes of a Meeting of the Senate of Simon Fraser University held on
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    Monday, June 3, 2002 at 7:00 pm in Room 3210 West Mall Centre
    Open Session
    Present: Stevenson, Michael
    President and Chair of Senate
    Absent:
    Barrow, Robin
    D'Auria, John
    Gerson, Carole
    Gill, Alison
    Haunerland, Norbert
    Heaney, John
    Higgins, Anne
    Jensen, Britta
    Mauser, Gary
    McFetridge, Paul
    McInnes, Dina
    Naef, Barbara
    Percival, Paul
    Phipps, Kate
    Sekhon, Devinder
    Thandi, Ranbir
    Wong, Milton
    Aloi, Santa
    Apaak, Clement
    Atkins, Stella
    Blackman, Roger (representing J
    .
    Pierce)
    Bourke, Brynn
    Cameron, Rob (representing B. Lewis)
    Chan, Albert
    Chen, Danny
    Clayman, Bruce
    Copeland, Lynn
    Davidson, Willie
    Driver, Jon
    Dunsterville, Valerie
    Garcia, Carlos
    Gordon, Robert
    Grimmett, Peter
    Gupta, Kamal
    Hill, Ross
    Horvath, Adam
    Jackson, Margaret
    Jones, Cohn
    Jones, John
    Joyner, Charles (representing C. Yerbury)
    Kemper, Michelle
    Krane, Bill
    McArthur, James
    Meredith, Lindsay (representing E. Love)
    Peters, Joseph
    Poletz, Taira
    Russell, Robert
    Tyab, Azam
    Vaisey, Jacques
    Van Aalst, Jan
    Warren, Joel
    Waterhouse, John
    Weldon, Larry
    Wessel, Silvia
    Zaichkowsky, Judith
    In attendance:
    Egan, Kieran
    Krebs, Dennis
    Loo, Tina
    Wong, Amy
    Wortis, Michael
    Heath, Ron, Dean of Student Services and Registrar
    Watt, Alison, Director, University Secretariat
    Grant, Bobbie, Recording Secretary
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    Approval
    The Chair
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    requested
    the Agendathat
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    the agenda be changed to include the election of a Vice-
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    Chair for the meeting in order to allow the motion from Senator Warren (Agenda
    Item 7.i) to proceed. Following this change, the agenda was approved as
    amended.
    In response to a call for nominations from the floor of Senate, Cohn Jones was
    nominated and agreed to serve as Vice-Chair.
    2.
    Approval of the Minutes of the Open Session of May 13, 2002
    Reference was made to the last paragraph of the Chair's report on page 2 and
    Senators attention was drawn to the editorial changes to this paragraph on the
    revised page distributed at the meeting. Following this change, the Minutes
    were approved.
    3.
    Business Arising from the Minutes
    There was no business arising from the Minutes.
    4.
    Report of the Chair
    The Chair reported that senior administration members have been advocating
    the interests of the University with Government and referred to a successful
    event organized by the University and held in Victoria. "SFU Day in Victoria"
    was well attended and provided an opportunity to bring to the attention of
    MLAs and senior officials of the Ministry particular interests and issues
    important to the University. A well attended evening event was held with SFU
    alumni at the conclusion of the day in Victoria.
    The Chair concluded with a report that the Minister of Advanced Education had
    been on the Burnaby campus that day, meeting with a range of individuals and
    learning more about SFU.
    The Chair welcomed the new members of Senate to their first meeting.
    5.
    Ouestion Period
    There were no questions submitted.
    6.
    Reports of Committees
    A) Ad Hoc Senate Committee to Review and Develop the Undergraduate
    Currricula
    i) ?
    Paper S.02-46 - Report - For Discussion
    Senate was reminded that the ad hoc committee had been struck by Senate a year
    ago and the committee's penultimate report was before Senate for discussion.
    The Committee wished to have Senate's views on its recommendations, and
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    formally to SCUP. Upon approval of the report in principle, SCUP will then
    undertake detailed implementation considerations.
    The following members of the Ad Hoc Committee were in attendance in order to
    respond to questions: D. Krebs (Chair), K. Egan,
    T. Loo,
    J .
    Peters, A. Wong, and
    M. Wortis. M. Fizzell was unable to attend the meeting.
    By way of introduction to the report, Senate was advised that the Committee had
    not looked at the specific curricula of particular departments but rather looked at
    the curricula of the University as a whole with a view towards providing a
    general/liberal education. University-wide consultation resulted in the set of
    recommendations contained in the report which the Committee felt would be a
    very good starting point at SFU for change to the university wide curriculum. It
    was recommended that as a University SFU adopt a set of requirements that
    must be met by all students in order to receive Bachelor degrees. The
    requirements include that all students must take two writing intensive courses
    (W), two quantitative intensive courses (Q), and eight breadth courses (B).
    Information was provided to Senate with respect to details concerning the
    implementation of the W/Q/B course requirements and it was pointed out that
    there were exemptions built into the regulations to handle exceptional
    circumstances and allow departments flexibility. The Committee's goal was to
    give a sense of how the requirements should be framed but has recommended
    that a task force be formed to work out the details of the recommendations.
    Senate was being asked to provide feedback about the general spirit of the
    recommendations and whether implementing them would significantly enhance
    the educational experience at SFU, and to provide input about the
    details /suggestions with respect to implementation.
    Comment was made that it might be better to use an in-house examination for
    the writing requirement rather than the
    LPI
    which was administered outside
    SFU, and concern was expressed about the impact of the breadth requirements
    on students with double/triple majors. Senate was advised that the Committee
    had reviewed the
    LPI
    and felt it was a reasonable test that had a long history of
    use. It was also noted that Continuing Studies at SFU offered pre-university
    courses in writing which could help students improve their writing ability to a
    level where they could pass either the LPI or equivalent test. With respect to
    students with multiple majors, it was pointed out that the W and Q courses
    could also be counted as breadth courses.
    Depending on how a department interpreted its freedom within the regulations,
    concern was expressed that students could be required to take one or two extra
    semesters in order to fulfill the requirements. Particular concern was expressed
    about the impact of the breadth requirements on students trying to do sequential
    courses outside their area. Detailed discussion using the Chemistry curriculum
    as an example took place with respect to how the regulations might be
    implemented. Senate was assured that it was not the Committee's intention to
    require students to take an extra semester but it was hoped that departments
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    would cooperate in doing their share to help meet these general education
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    that the document was not clear as to whether the breadth courses were to be an
    integral part of a program or an add on.
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    Concern was expressed about the grade requirements especially for the Q
    courses and the impact it might have on student access. It was pointed out that
    they were not entrance requirements; they were standards which would exempt
    students from the suggested placement tests. In response to an inquiry as to how
    the recommendations would affect current students, Senate was informed that
    there was no intention to retroactively apply the regulation and that existing
    students would be required to fulfill the requirements that were in effect at the
    time they entered the university.
    Discussion turned to the question of how Q requirements could be built into
    programs in a way that was relevant to students in Humanities and Fine Arts
    programs. The Committee acknowledged that programs had different needs and
    it would be more difficult in some programs than others. The Committee
    believed however that it could be done in a way that was relevant to all students
    and programs but that it might require the development of some new courses.
    Inquiry was made about how many Arts students enter with Grade 12 Math and
    if there was a breakdown available between Social Science students and
    Humanities students in this regard. It was suggested that the Q requirement
    might discourage students interested in the Humanities and Fine and Performing
    Arts from coming to SFU. It was stressed that these requirements are not
    entrance requirements, and that students would have until the end of the first
    year to bring their writing and quantitative abilities up to the level required in
    the placement tests.
    Reference was made to the writing courses and concern was expressed about the
    expense and considerable workload attached to these courses. A discussion
    ensued in which a number of models were discussed in regard to delivery
    method and resource requirements.
    Discussion turned to recommendation four with respect to GPA calculation and
    a senator asked whether there would be three different grade point averages on a
    student's transcript. Senate was informed that the addition of a GPA for the
    Major program was an attempt to decrease the barriers to breadth and that the
    Major GPA would be used for qualification inside the program and for
    scholarships, etc. It was pointed out that program GPAs were already in
    existence at the University so this was new. It was suggested that instead of so
    many sets of GPAs, some W/Q/B courses could be graded on a pass/fail basis.
    Concern was expressed that the implementation might have a host of exceptions
    and would turn out to be bureaucratically difficult. It might be better to have
    simpler regulations with fewer exceptions.
    It was noted that there was a history and tradition at SFU for a great deal of
    independence and these recommendations were a change to that culture. It was
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    what the University, as a whole, would like to see in an undergraduate education
    before deciding whether the requirements are reasonable and worthwhile.
    On behalf of Senate the Chair thanked members of the Committee for the report
    and their attendance at the Senate meeting. Speaking personally, the Chair felt
    the report was a very thorough and thoughtful piece of work that promised to
    produce for Senate policy changes and recommendations that would advance the
    cause of undergraduate education at SFU.
    B)
    Senate Committee on University Priorities
    i)
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    Paper S.02-47 - Transition of TechBC Graduate Programs
    Moved by J
    .
    Waterhouse, seconded by J
    .
    Driver
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors the extension of the Cohort Special Arrangements in
    Computing Arts and Design Sciences to include PhD students as
    outlined in S.02-47"
    Tables 1 and 2 were omitted from the original documentation but were
    distributed to Senate at the meeting.
    Concern was expressed that the wording of the motion was too general and in
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    order to clarify issues raised within the document support papers, the following
    revision proposed by C. Jones was accepted as a
    friendly amendment
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors the extension of the Cohort Special Arrangements in
    Computing Arts and Design Sciences to include PhD students as
    outlined in S.02-47. No new admissions to the PhD program be
    permitted unless a regular graduate program in this area has been
    approved by Senate"
    Senate was informed that the motion would allow existing TechBC doctoral
    students to continue in their programs and two things were expected to happen.
    One was that the cohort program would continue until the time described in the
    document and students would graduate as part of the Cohort Special
    Arrangements Program, or the program would act as a temporary solution to
    allow students to continue in their programs until a permanent graduate
    program was put in place at SFU at which time they would be transferred.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    C)
    Senate Committee on University Honours
    i)
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    Paper S.02-48 - New Honorar
    y
    Degree Designations
    Moved by V. Dunsterville, seconded by A. Chan

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    "that Senate approve the following Honorary Degrees for award by
    the University:
    D.Litt. (Letters) ?
    for outstanding achievement in literature
    D.Sc. (Science) for outstanding achievement in science,
    engineering science, computing science,
    medicine
    D.F.A. (Fine Arts) ?
    for outstanding achievement in the fine and
    performing arts
    LL.D. (Laws) ?
    for outstanding achievement in other areas
    The Senate Committee on University Honours will make
    recommendations to Senate regarding both the names of
    individuals to be honoured and the degree to be awarded in each
    instance."
    Brief discussion took place as to what 'other areas' would include.
    Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
    MOTION CARRIED
    D) ?
    Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
    i) ?
    Paper S.02-51 - School of Engineering Science - Changes to BASc and
    BASc (Honors) programs
    Moved by R. Cameron, seconded by J
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    Jones
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors the proposal from the School of Engineering Science to
    refine the existing BASc program to provide both a general and an
    honors degree as set forth in S.02-51, effective September 2002.
    Furthermore, Senate affirms that the designation BASc (Honors)
    may be used by those who have graduated from the BASc program
    prior to Fall 2002, provided that both a CGPA and a UDGPA of
    least 3.0 were obtained on graduation"
    Inquiry was made as to what options were available to current students not
    meeting the 3.0 GPA requirement or who do not complete the undergraduate
    thesis. Senate was advised that students could obtain a Bachelor of General
    Studies from Applied Sciences but substantial additional work would be
    required to obtain a Bachelor of Science.
    Question arose as to whether it was intended to retroactively reproduce
    academic records and parchments for students who had graduated prior to Fall
    2002. Senate was advised that there was no intention to do that but students
    would be entitled to use the Honors designation.

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    In response to an inquiry as to why 2.4 was chosen as the graduation
    requirement, Senate was advised that because of the high academic standard the
    program had built a reputation with respect to the quality of its students. There
    had been some concern within the School that a general degree would dilute that
    reputation so 2.4 was chosen as a compromise.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    E)
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    Senate Nominating Committee
    i) ?
    Paper S.02-49 - Elections
    A revised paper showing additions and deletions was distributed to Senators
    along with additional information supplied by candidates. The following are the
    results of elections by Senate to Senate committees:
    Senate Committee on Disciplinary Appeals (SCODA)
    Three Faculty Members (at-large) (1 Regular, 1 Alternate).
    Elected by acclamation as Regular member
    for term of office to May 31, 2004:
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    Colleen Collins-Dodd
    Elected by acclamation as Alternate members
    for terms of office to May 31, 2003:
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    Sam Black
    Cathy D'Andrea
    Five Students (at-large) (3 Regular, 2 Alternate) for terms of office to May 31,
    2003
    Elected as Regular members: ?
    Brynn Bourke
    Danny Chen
    Michelle Kemper
    Elected as Alternate members: ?
    Gina Fernandez
    Chris Steinbach
    Senate Committee on University Priorities (SCUP)
    Five Faculty Senators (one from each Faculty) for terms of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected (Applied Sciences)
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    Joseph Peters
    Elected by acclamation (Arts)
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    Carole Gerson
    Business Administration ?
    Vacant
    Elected by acclamation (Education) ?
    Peter Grimmett
    Elected (Science) ?
    Paul Percival
    Two Student Senators elected for terms of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Bryrm Bourke
    Azam Tyab
    Lay Senator elected for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Valerie Dunsterville
    Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules (SCAR)
    Two Senators (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected ?
    Peter Grimmett

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    Margaret Jackson
    One Student
    Elected
    Senator
    by acclamationfor
    term of
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    office to May 31, 2003
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    Carlos Garcia
    Is
    Senate Committee on Continuine Studies (SCCS'
    Four Faculty Senators for terms of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ?
    Margaret Jackson
    Gary Mauser
    Rob Gordon
    Larry Weldon
    One Student Senator for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ? Joel Warren
    One Alternate (at-large) Student for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ? Muneer Esmail
    Senate Committee on University
    Honours (SCUH'
    One Senator (Faculty of Science) for term of office to May 31, 2005.
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Norbert Haunerland
    Two Lay Senators for terms of office to May 31, 2005
    Elected by acclamation ?
    Valerie Dunsterville
    James McArthur
    One Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Kate Phipps
    One Student Senator for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ? Britta Jensen
    (LPAC ) - Dual Position
    One Undergraduate Student Alternate for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ?
    Jennifer Siegfried
    One Graduate Student Alternate for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Vacant
    Senate Nominating Committee (SNC)
    Four Senators (at-large) for terms of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected by acclamation ? Carole Gerson
    Ross Hill
    Jan Van Aalst
    Vacant
    One Student Senator for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected by acclamation ? Joel Warren
    One Student Alternate (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected
    ?
    Reza Pourvali
    Senate Policy Committee on Scholarships, Awards & Bursaries (SPCSAB)
    One Faculty Senator (as Chair) for term of office to May 31, 2005
    Elected by acclamation ? John D'Auria

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    .
    One Faculty Member (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2004. Balloting
    resulted in a tied vote between M.A. Gillies and K. Gupta. K. Gupta
    subsequently withdrew his nomination.
    Elected ?
    Mary Ann Gillies
    One Undergraduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003. The
    student elected to this committee also becomes a member of SUAAC. Prior to
    balloting, B. Bourke withdrew her nomination.
    Elected by acclamation ?
    Taira Poletz
    Note: T. Poletz subsequently withdrew her nomination. The vacancy will be
    carried forward to next meeting of Senate.
    One Graduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003. The student
    elected to this committee also becomes a member of SGAAC.
    Elected by acclamation ?
    Amit Goel
    Senate Undergraduate Awards Adjudication Committee (SUAAC)
    One Lay Senator for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    James McArthur
    One Undergraduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Kate Phipps
    Senate Graduate Awards Adjudication Committee (SGAAC
    One Lay Senator for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Vacant
    One Graduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Mavis MacMillen
    Senate Appeals Board (SAB)
    Two Faculty Members (at-large) (1 Regular, 1 Alternate) for terms of office to
    May 31, 2004. Candidates were elected by acclamation, balloting was required to
    determine committee position.
    Elected as Regular member
    ?
    Mark Wexler
    Elected as Alternate member
    ? Sam Black
    Two Graduate Students (at-large) for terms of office to May 31, 2004. Candidates
    were elected by acclamation, balloting was required to determine committee
    position.
    Elected as Regular member ?
    Peg (Randy) Peters
    Elected as Alternate member ?
    Peter Liljedahl
    Committee to Review Universit y
    Admissions (CRUA)
    One Faculty Member (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Geoff Madoc-Jones
    Two Graduate Students (at-large) for terms of office to May 31, 2004. Candidates
    were elected by acclamation, balloting was required to determine committee
    position.
    Elected as Regular member ?
    Clement Apaak
    Elected as Alternate member
    ?
    Felix Tang
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    Two
    Senate
    Undergraduate
    Committee on
    Students
    Undergraduate
    (at-large)
    Studies
    for terms
    (SCUS)of
    office
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    to May 31, 2003.
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    Elected ?
    Danny Chen,
    Graham Percival
    Senate Committee on Enrolment Mana
    g
    ement and Plannin g
    (SCEMP
    Two Faculty Senators for terms of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected ?
    Kamal Gupta
    Larry Weldon
    One Undergraduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Azam Tyab
    One Graduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Felix Tang
    Electoral Standing Committee (ESC)
    Three Senators (one of whom must be a student) for terms of office to May 31,
    2004.
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Brynn Bourke
    Jon Driver
    Vacant
    Senate Committee on International Activities (SCIA)
    Two Faculty Senators for terms of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected ?
    Cohn Jones
    Larry Weldon
    One Undergraduate Student Senator for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ?
    Taira Poletz
    Secretary's Note: T. Poletz has subsequently withdrawn her nomination; the
    vacancy will be brought forward to the next meeting of Senate.
    One Graduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Clement Apaak
    One Senator (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Valerie Dunsterville
    International Student Exchange Committee (ISEC)
    Two Faculty Members (at-large) for terms of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected by acclamation ?
    John Bechhoefer
    Anne Higgins
    One Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Clement Apaak
    One Faculty Member (at-large from the Faculty of Arts) for term of office to May
    31, 2005
    Elected by acclamation
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    Tom Grieve

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    One Faculty Member (at-large from the Faculty of Science) for term of office to
    May 31, 2005
    Elected by acclamation
    ?
    Bernard Roitberg
    One Undergraduate Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003.
    Balloting resulted in a tied vote between D. Chen and J
    .
    Siegfried. D. Chen
    subsequently withdrew his nomination.
    Elected ?
    Jennifer Siegfried
    Diverse Oualifications Adjudication Committee (DOAC
    One Lay Senator for term of office to May 31, 2004
    Elected ?
    Barbara Naef
    Two Undergraduate Students (at-large) for terms of office to May 31, 2003
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    Elected ?
    Kate Phipps
    Taira Poletz
    Calendar Committee
    One Student (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003
    Elected ?
    Graham Percival
    Vice-Chair of Senate
    One Senator (at-large) for term of office to May 31, 2003.
    Elected ?
    Paul McFetridge
    7.
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    Other Business
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    i) ?
    Paper S.02-50 - Motion from Senator Warren
    Michael Stevenson and John Waterhouse left the meeting at this point. Cohn
    Jones took the Chair and invited Senator Warren to move the motion. J
    .
    Warren
    yielded to the floor.
    Moved by M. Kemper, seconded by C. Garcia
    "that the motion be tabled"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION TO TABLE CARRIED
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    Information
    The date of the next regular meeting of Senate is Monday, July 8, 2002.
    Open Session adjourned at 9:10 pm; the Assembly moved directly into Closed Session.
    Alison Watt
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    Director, University Secretariat

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