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    DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
    Minutes of a meeting of the Senate of Simon Fraser University held on
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    Monday, November 1, 1999 at 7:00 pm in Room 3210 West Mall Complex
    Open Session
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    Present:
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    Blaney, Jack, President and Chair
    Al-Natour, Sameh
    Atkins, Stella
    Baldwin, Paul (representing L. Copeland)
    Barrow, Robin
    Benezra, Michael
    Boland, Larry
    Budra, Paul
    Chuah, Kuan
    Clayman, Bruce
    Crossley, David
    D'Auria, John
    Davidson, Willie
    Delgrande, James
    Emerson, Joseph
    Finley, David
    Fletcher, James
    Gillies, Mary Ann
    Harris, Richard
    Heaney, John
    Hyslop-Margison, Emory
    Jones, John
    Marteniuk, Ron
    Mathewes, Rolf
    Mauser, Gary
    McBride, Stephan
    McFetridge, Paul
    McInnes, Dina
    Munro, Jock
    Niwinska, Tina
    Osborne, Judith
    Peters, Joseph
    Peterson, Louis
    Pierce, John
    Reader, Jason
    Russell, Robert
    Sanghera, Balwant
    Steinbach, Christopher
    To, Shek Yan
    Waterhouse, John
    Wessel, Silvia
    Wortis, Michael
    Yerbury, Cohn
    Absent:
    Chan, Albert
    Driver, Jon
    Dunsterville, Valerie
    Kanevsky, Lannie
    Kirczenow, George
    McArthur, James
    Naef, Barbara
    Ogloff, James
    Paterson, David
    Smith, Michael
    Wong, Milton
    Zazkis, Rina
    In attendance:
    Berggren, Len
    Brockman, Joan
    Cameron, Rob
    Fizzell, Maureen
    Nesbitt, Tom
    Plischke, Michael
    Preece, Daniel
    Seager, Allen
    Schwarz, Carl
    Thewalt, Jenifer
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    Watt, Alison, Director, Secretariat Services
    Heath, Ron, Dean of Student Services and Registrar
    Grant, Bobbie, Recording Secretary

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    1.
    Approval of the Agenda
    The Agenda was approved as distributed.
    2.
    Approval of the Minutes of the Open Session of October
    4, 1999
    It was noted that M. Benezra should have been recorded as absent rather
    than present. Following this change, the Minutes were approved.
    3.
    Business Arising from the Minutes
    The Chair reported that revisions to the Student Conduct Policies would
    come back to the December Senate meeting for consideration.
    Secretary's Note: Revisions were still in progress and would be brought
    forward to a later meeting of Senate.
    4.
    Report of the Chair
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    i)
    Honorary Degree
    The Chair was pleased to report that Julie Payette had accepted the
    University's offer and had agreed to come to Vancouver to receive her
    honorary degree which would be awarded at a special ceremony, the details
    of which had yet to be confirmed.
    ii)
    Mission Statement
    The Chair reported that he hoped to have a working draft of this document
    available in the near future for full discussion by Senate.
    5.
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    Reports of Committees
    a) ?
    Senate Nominating Committee
    i) ?
    Paper
    S.99-60 -
    Elections
    The following are the results of elections to Senate Committees:
    Senate Committee on Continuing Studies (SCCS)
    One Alternate Student (at-large) to fill an existing vacancy to May 31, 2000.
    Senate was advised that the nomination of S. Galbaransingh had been
    withdrawn by the student.
    Elected by acclamation: ?
    David Yau
    Senate Appeals Board (SAB)
    One Alternate Graduate Student (at-large) to replace Thomas du Payrat from
    date of election to May 31, 2000.
    Elected by acclamation: ?
    Dan Preece
    Committee to Review University Admissions (CRUA)
    One Graduate Student (at-large) to replace Ruth Derksen as the Regular
    member from date of election to May 31, 2000.
    Elected by acclamation: ?
    Carmen Choi
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    b)
    University Board on Student Discipline and Senate Committee on
    Disciplinary Appeals
    i) ?
    Paper S.99-61 - Annual Report (For Information)
    J. Brockman, Co-Ordinator of the UBSD, and
    J.
    Thewalt, Chair of SCODA,
    were in attendance in order to respond to questions. In response to an
    inquiry, brief explanation was provided with respect to the decision-making
    process of the UBSD.
    In response to an inquiry as to whether there were plans to publicize the
    report, the Chair indicated that the report would be published in both SF
    News and The Peak.
    Inquiry was made as to the status of the annual report required under the
    harassment policy. Senate was informed that the report was late but was
    forthcoming.
    c)
    Senate Committee on Academic Planning
    er S.99-62 - External Review - De
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    J.L. Berggren, Chair of the Department of Mathematics and Statistics was in
    attendance in order to respond to questions.
    Further details were requested with respect to recommendation six relating
    to the establishment of a separate department of statistics. Senate was
    advised that the recommendation dated back to the Department's previous
    review and, since Statistics had grown and become a more active part of the
    Department, the current reviewers felt the issue should be revisited. It was
    noted that separation could not occur without additional resources so this
    was not an imminent issue. At the present time the Department was trying
    to work out an arrangement which provided an increased degree of
    autonomy for the statisticians while at the same time enabled the unit to
    work together as a department.
    Reference was made to statements in the fourth paragraph on page 3 which
    outlined changes which would result in a reduced level of service to
    students and a net decrease in the overall quality of instruction. Opinion
    was expressed that Senate should be concerned about the consequences of
    financial constraints which result in such changes not only in the
    Department but throughout the University.
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    ii) ?
    Paper
    S.99-63 -
    External Review - Department of Physics (For
    Information)
    M. Plischke, Chair of the Department of Physics, was in attendance in order
    to respond to questions.
    d)
    Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Committee on
    Enrolment Management and Planning/Senate Committee on Undergraduate
    Studies
    i) ?
    Paper
    S.99-64 -
    Course space restrictions (For Information)
    R. Cameron, School of Computing Science was in attendance in order to
    respond to questions.
    Brief discussion took place with respect to the course restriction process and
    Senate was advised that the intent of the proposal was to give relevant
    priority to students who had not completed upper division requirements
    over students who had completed the requirements.
    e)
    Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Committee on
    Enrolment Management and Planning
    i)
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    Paper
    S.99-65 -
    Faculty of Business Administration - Continuance
    Requirements for Direct Entry Students to the BBA Program
    M. Fizzell, Faculty of Business Administration, was in attendance in order to
    respond to questions.
    Motion #1
    Moved by
    J.
    Munro, seconded by
    J.
    Waterhouse
    "that Senate rescind the motion (amended) contained in
    S.99-
    30
    as follows: 'that Senate approve and recommend to the
    Board of Governors as set forth in
    S.99-30
    that the
    15%
    cap
    on Category 1 admissions to the Faculty of Business
    Administration be removed and replaced by the requirement
    that the maintenance CGPA for Category 1 students be raised
    to B-
    (2.67)
    until these students have completed all the lower
    division requirements (with the exception of BUS
    207
    and
    BUS
    254)'"
    Opinion was expressed against rescinding the motion given that Business
    Administration limits the overall number of students granted admission, and
    unlimited direct admission for Category 1 students merely substitutes one
    inequity for another because each direct entry student admitted results in
    less space for existing students wishing to enter the major. These same
    students were also required to have a higher GPA than the directly admitted
    students, and suggestion was made that either the fixed limit on Category 1
    students remain or the disparity between the GPA for Category 1 students

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    and Category 3 and 4 students be addressed by requiring a higher
    continuance GPA for Category 1 students.
    It was pointed out that although the Faculty admits in four categories, once
    admitted, all students are students of the Faculty and should be treated in
    the same way. Having a maintenance average for one category of students
    that was different from other categories was felt by the Faculty to be unfair.
    A disagreement of opinion was expressed with respect to the term 'students
    of the Faculty'. It was stressed that the Business major did not start until the
    third year so the notion of direct admissions being in the Faculty and subject
    to a different set of rules was misleading.
    In response to an inquiry, clarification was provided with respect to how the
    continuance GPA was determined for students admitted from the other
    categories. Senate was advised that Category 1 students do not impact the
    number of other students until they reach 45 credit hours so there has been
    no impact to date. Expectations are that when direct entries are taken into
    consideration for the first time in the Spring semester 2000 they would have
    little, if any, impact on the determination of the GPA for other categories.
    Brief discussion took place with respect to the impact the direct admission
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    policy has had on admissions to the Faculty and the quality of students
    being admitted.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    Motion #2
    Moved by
    J.
    Munro, seconded by R. Marteniuk
    "that Senate approve, as set forth in S.99-65, that the 15% cap
    on Category 1 admissions to the Faculty of Business
    Administration be removed"
    Concern was raised about the removal of the cap because unlike other
    Faculties, Business Administration was the only Faculty to explicitly
    determine admission to the Faculty by means of a GPA and had four
    different categories of admission which placed it in an unequal position to
    other Faculties. Opinion was reiterated that unlimited direct admission for
    Category 1 students would merely substitute one inequity for another and
    this policy was unfair to students who are not admitted directly to the
    Faculty.
    Amendment moved by L. Boland, seconded by C. Steinbach
    "that the motion be amended by deleting the word 'removed'
    and substituting the words 'increased to 25%"

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    In response to inquires about the percentage distribution for the various
    categories, Senate was advised that without counting Category 1 students,
    the Faculty admits approximately 500 new students per year and 45-50% of
    those admissions are Category 3 students. As the Category 1 students move
    into the 300 level courses, expectations are that the number of Category 3
    students would drop to about
    30%.
    It was pointed out however that direct
    entry students do not replace students from other categories on a one-to-one
    basis since many of them would have high enough GPA's to be admitted in
    any event.
    Inquiry was made as to whether there was a significant difference in
    programs between direct entry students and students transferring into
    Business at a later stage. Senate was advised that Category 1 students were
    required to follow the same program as the other students. However,
    Category 1 students tend to sample a wide range of courses while Category
    3 and 4 students tend to take courses which elevate their GPAs.
    It was noted that the direct entry program works quite well in that it allows
    flexibility for individual programs and Faculties to compete for top quality
    students and at the same time provides the opportunity for
    Faculties/Departments to meet the needs of transfer students from college
    and other programs within the University.
    Brief discussion ensued with respect to whether the motion was a directive
    to the Faculty of Business Administration or to SCEMP when they set the
    University's admission targets. It was pointed out that when SCEMP defines
    the number of enrolments in Categories 1 and 2, in a sense, they define
    Categories 3 and 4 in total, so both the Faculty and SCEMP have some say
    in the division of Business enrolments.
    Question was called on the amendment,
    and a vote taken.
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    AMENDMENT FAILED
    Question was called on the main motion,
    and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    f)
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    Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Committee on
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    Undergraduate Studies
    i) ?
    Paper S.99-66 - Faculty of Arts - Undergraduate Curriculum
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    Revisions
    Motion #1:
    Moved by J. Munro, seconded by J. Pierce
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board
    of Governors, as set forth in S.99-66, the following revision in
    the Division of Interdisciplinary Studies: Deletion of the

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    Joint Major in Spanish and Latin American Studies, and the
    Joint Major in French and Spanish)"
    Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
    MOTION CARRIED
    Motion #2:
    Moved by
    J.
    Munro, seconded by
    J.
    Pierce
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board
    of Governors, as set forth in S.99-66, the following revision in
    the Department of History: Proposed Minor Program in
    Labour Studies including new courses: LBST 101 and 301"
    A. Seager, Department of History, and T. Nesbitt, Centre for Labour Studies
    were in attendance in order to respond to questions.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    Senate received information that SCUS, acting under delegated authority,
    approved course deletions/new courses and/or minor curriculum revisions
    in Archaeology, Canadian Studies Program, Contemporary Arts,
    . Criminology, Economics, English, Co-op Education Program in Liberal
    Studies, Political Science, Psychology, Sociology and Anthropology, and
    Women's Studies.
    g) ?
    Ad Hoc Senate Review Committee
    i)
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    Paper S.99-67 - Draft Report (For Discussion)
    The following members of the Committee were present at the meeting and
    available to respond to questions:
    J.
    Munro (Chair), M.A. Gillies, D. Preece,
    and J. Waterhouse.
    Moved by
    J.
    Munro, seconded by L. Boland
    "that Senate move into a quasi-committee of the whole"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    Senate was provided with a brief overview of the report and brief
    background explanation was given for each section. The Committee hoped
    to gain a sense of what Senate wanted in a final report and how Senate felt
    about the Committee's recommendations prior to the Committee carrying
    their work to a further stage.
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    Concerns were expressed about
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    the abolition of SPCSAB and the transfer of the policy-making
    responsibilities to the adjudication committees

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    • SCUS and SGSC reporting directly to Senate as there was a potential
    that curriculum issues would have to be argued in detail on the floor of
    Senate
    • the transfer of SCUB responsibilities to a new priorities committee
    having a similar membership as SCAP and this same committee having
    responsibility for both the planning/academic review process and
    budget process
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    the one year trial period for afternoon meetings
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    at-large student positions on Senate committees being appointed by
    SFSS
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    the elimination of alternate members on Senate committees
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    the lack of support documentation and rationale for the
    recommendations of the committee
    Senators, particularly student senators, were invited to provide the
    Committee with written submissions (within the next ten days) with respect
    to the issue of how student positions on Senate committees are filled.
    Senators were reminded about the second open meeting of the Committee
    to be held at the Harbour Centre campus on Thursday, November
    4th
    at 3:00
    pm.
    h)
    Senate Librar
    y
    Committee
    Senate
    i)
    Paper
    continued
    S.99-68
    on in the
    -
    Annual
    quasi-committee
    Report of the
    of the
    Senate
    whole.
    Library
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    and Annual
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    Report of the Library (For Information)
    The annual reports were presented to Senate for information.
    i) ?
    Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules
    Senate continued on in the quasi-committee of the whole.
    i) ?
    Paper
    S.99-69 -
    Procedures for Mid-Term Review of Senior
    Academic Administrators (For Discussion)
    C. Schwarz, President of the Faculty Association, was in attendance in order
    to respond to questions.
    Senate was advised that the document was a result of approximately two
    years of discussion between the Faculty Association and the Administration
    and was before Senate for input. It was also pointed out that because of the
    difficulty implementing this type of evaluation, agreement had been reached
    with the SFUFA Executive that, prior to the document becoming official
    policy, an initial evaluation would be carried out on a trial basis.
    J.
    Osborne
    had volunteered for the review.
    Concerns were expressed about
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    • the potential difficulty in attracting qualified administrators and making
    SFU less competitive with other universities because of the review
    process
    • the lack of student representation in the review process
    • decisions by administrators being made based on factors which would
    result in a good review rather than on other considerations
    • the lack of clarification with respect to the meaning of Part B, Section 10
    and the reference in Part B to the reliability of responses
    • the involvement of the Faculty Association in the process
    • the lack of due process for someone who disagreed with the findings of
    the review
    • the timing of the review
    The Chair thanked Senate for its comments and indicated that a trial review
    will be carried out after which the policy as drafted would be revisited and a
    further document would come back to Senate for consideration.
    6. ?
    Other Business
    Senate continued on in the quasi-committee of the whole.
    i) ?
    Paper S.99-70 -
    President's Response to the Task Force on Faculty
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    Renewal and Retention (For Discussion)
    The Chair referred to comments received from the Executive of the Faculty
    Association which had been circulated to Senate and advised that he had
    also received comments from others in the University and that the next
    document would clarify some of the language.
    D. Finley wished Senate to note his opposition on ethical grounds to spousal
    hiring which was referred to on page 8. He felt hiring should be done on
    individual merit and it was an ethical mistake to endorse a policy on spousal
    hiring.
    Reference was made to the addition of a significant number of endowed
    professorships and concern was expressed that such hiring took away from
    the actual teaching faculty of the University.
    Opinion was expressed that the University should be very careful when
    engaging in external partnerships to make sure that they were academically
    based and served the needs of the institution and were not pursued just for
    the funding aspect.
    Discussion ensued with respect to the ongoing competition challenges
    between US universities and other Canadian universities. The Chair
    indicated that SFU was very cognizant of the difficulties facing the university
    • and he noted the issue of faculty renewal and retention was a very serious
    issue in terms of both policy and budget planning which he hoped was
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    Nothing was reported back to the main assembly from quasi-committee of the whole.
    The open session adjourned at 9:20 pm, and the Assembly moved directly into Closed
    Session.
    Alison Watt
    Director, Secretariat Services
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