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    Minutes of a meeting of the Senate of Simon Fraser University held on
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    Monday, April 12, 1999 at7-OO-pm in room 3210 West Mall Complex
    6130
    Open Session
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    Present: ?
    Blaney, Jack, President and Chair
    Akins, Kathleen
    Boland, Lawrence
    Bowman, Marilyn
    Chan, Albert
    Clayman, Bruce
    Copeland, Lynn
    Crossley, David
    D'Auria, John
    Dunsterville, Valerie
    Emerson, Joseph
    Emmott, Albert
    Finley David
    Fletcher, James
    Gagan, David
    Gillies, Mary Ann
    Harris, Richard
    Heaney, John
    Kanevsky, Lannie
    Kirczenow, George
    Lewis, Brian
    Marteniuk, Ron
    Mathewes, Rolf
    Mauser, Gary
    McInnes, Dina
    Morris, Joy
    Naef, Barbara
    Overington, Jennifer
    Percival, Paul
    Peterson, Louis
    Peters, Joseph
    Pierce, John
    Pinfield, Larry (representing
    J.
    Waterhouse)
    Sanghera, Baiwant
    Thompson, Janis (representing R. Barrow)
    To, Shek Yan
    Weeks, Daniel
    Wortis, Michael
    Yerbury, Cohn (representing L. Burton)
    Zazkis, Rina
    Absent:
    Beattie, Suzan
    Berggren, Len
    Coleman, Peter
    Dhihlon, Khushwant
    Giffen, Ken
    Jones, John
    Ogloff, James
    Osborne, Judith
    Reader, Jason
    Russell, Robert
    Segal, Joseph
    Veerkamp, Mark
    Wickstrom, Norman
    In attendance:
    Gupta, Arvind
    Little, Jack
    Macdonald, Bob
    Tront, Russell
    Warrington, Simon
    Williams, Kevin
    Heath, Ron, Dean of Student Services and Registrar
    Watt, Alison, Director, Secretariat Services
    Grant, Bobbie, Recording Secretary
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    On behalf of Senate, the Chair welcomed newly elected Student Senator, D. Crossley
    to the meeting. The Chair reported that D. Crossley has also been elected as
    President of the Simon Fraser Student Society and as a student representative on the
    Board of Directors - Burnaby Mountain Community Corporation.
    1.
    Approval of the Agenda
    The order of the agenda was changed so that Item 5 d.ii - Paper S.99-36 - could be
    considered as the first item under Reports of Committees. Following this revision, the
    agenda was approved.
    2.
    Approval of the Minutes of the Open Session of March 1, 1999
    Reference was made to approval of the minutes on page 2 and concern was
    expressed that the correction made to the minutes of February l regarding familial
    appointments did not reflect the criticism that was made. Suggestion was made that
    the added sentence to the 2'" paragraph on page 5 of the February
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    minutes should
    be changed to read: University hiring of faculty should be based on academic
    excellence rather than familial relationships. Following this amendment, the Minutes
    were approved.
    3.
    Business Arising from the Minutes
    There was no business arising from the Minutes.
    4.
    Report of the Chair ?
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    i)
    Faculty Awards
    Senate was advised that Gail Anderson, School of Criminology was one of the
    winners of the 40 under 40 award which is a national award where 40 Canadians
    under the age of 40 are recognized for their contribution to their field of study. A
    ceremony to honor the winners will take place in Toronto and a number of SFU
    Alumni in the Toronto area have been invited to be in attendance with Professor
    Anderson when she receives her award.
    ii)
    Budget Information
    Although the University had not yet received an official letter from the
    Government, the Chair reported that SFU had been given 256 fully funded FTEs and
    had been given an additional small amount of funding in compensation for the tuition
    freeze. SCEMP has recommended that the enrolments be restored to Arts and
    Science. There was no change to the base budget and the tuition freeze remains in
    effect for the fourth year. In terms of revenue per student, SFU was behind the
    Canadian average. Discussions have taken place and advice received from the
    Senate Committee on University Budget. The final budget will be submitted to the
    Vice-President Finance and Administration shortly.
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    Reports of Committees
    d) ?
    Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules
    I)
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    Paper S.99-36 -
    Senate Library Committee - Revised membership
    Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by
    J.
    Morris
    "In response to the External Review of the Library Report
    Recommendation, it is moved that the following changes be made to
    the membership of the Senate Library Committee:
    1)
    Replace the current student membership by one undergraduate
    and one graduate student, selected by the Simon Fraser Student
    Society, and one alternate undergraduate and one alternate
    graduate student, selected by the Simon Fraser Student Society.
    An alternate may attend meetings and may vote in the absence of
    the regular member.
    2)
    Add one Librarian (a voting member), to be elected by the staff
    employee group
    (2
    year term)
    3)
    Add one Library staff person (a voting member) to be elected by
    the staff employee groups
    (2
    year term).
    These changes would take effect 1 June
    1999.
    Terms will be staggered
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    in the first year."
    Senate was advised that the purpose of the motion was to make the membership of
    the Senate Library Committee more representative of the University community.
    Amendment moved by A. Chan, seconded by G. Mauser
    "that the words in point (1) 'selected by the Simon Fraser Student
    Society' be replaced by 'elected by Senate' in the two places where
    they occur in this sentence"
    Opinion was expressed that since this was a Senate committee, Senate should have
    the right to determine membership.
    It was noted that the faculty members on the committee were elected by and from
    their respective Faculties and not by Senate. Opinion was expressed that the Student
    Society was the representative body for students at SFU and should therefore have the
    right to choose its representatives, especially to committees responsible for making
    changes to policies that have a significant impact on students. There have been
    communication problems between student representatives on SLC and the Student
    Society, and it was felt that the amendment undermined the recommendations of the
    external reviewers and the Senate Library Committee itself. It was pointed out that the
    review committee had actually suggested that student reps be elected by the students,
    not selected by the Student Society, but since it was not feasible to hold general
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    elections for each Senate committee, it was more appropriate for Senate to elect
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    not eliminate the Student Society's participation as they can still submit nominations
    for election by Senate.
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    It was pointed out that several Senate committees have similar membership structures
    whereby some of their members are elected by Senate and some are elected/selected
    by other constituencies and opinion was expressed that all members on all Senate
    committees ouç1 be elected by Senate. Inquiry was made as to whether this motion
    could bedfreback to the Senate Review Committee. It was pointed out that the
    SenateReiew Committee would look at this issue in any event and there was no
    need
    to
    Wit at this time.
    Question was called on the amendment,
    and a vote taken. ?
    AMENDMENT CARRIED
    The following Student Senators wished to have their dissent noted for the record: J.
    Morris,
    J.
    Overington, and D. Crossley.
    Question was called on the main motion,
    and a vote taken. ?
    MAIN MOTION (AS AMENDED) CARRIED
    a) ?
    Senate Committee on Academic Planning
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    Paper S.99-32 -
    Pacific Institute for the Mathematical Sciences (PIMS)
    Moved by D. Gagan, seconded by B. Clayman
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors, as set forth in S.99-32, the establishment of the SFU site of
    the Pacific Institute for the Mathematical Sciences (PIMS) as a Schedule
    B institute under Policy R40.01"
    A. Gupta, School of Computing Science and PIMS-SFU Site Director, was in
    attendance in order to respond to questions.
    In response to an inquiry concerning cost, Senate was advised that the University
    would provide base budget funding of $75,000. Concern was expressed that there
    was no clause to deal with harassment issues and suggestion was made that it might
    be appropriate to include a statement that if harassment were to occur the current
    policy of each university would take effect. It was pointed out that the documentation
    specified that PIMS would conduct its activities in accordance with university policy.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    Secretary's Note: The motion as set out above differs from the motion in
    S.99-32
    approved at Senate in that it includes the additional phrase "SFU site of the" to reflect
    that the University is formally establishing an SFU site for an existing organization
    with sites at other institutions
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    b) Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Committee on Continuing
    Studies
    i) Paper S.99-33 -
    Non-Credit Certificate in Object Technology Programming
    Moved by D. Gagan, seconded by R. Marteniuk
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors, as set forth in
    S.99-33,
    the Non-Credit Certificate in Object
    Technology Programming"
    A request to revise the motion as follows, was accepted as a friendly amendment:
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors, as set forth in
    S.99-33,
    the Non-Credit Certificate for the
    Object Technology Program"
    R. Macdonald, Director of Continuing Studies in Applied Sciences, R. Tront, School of
    Computing Science, S. Warrington and K. Williams, students currently enrolled in the
    pilot program, were in attendance in order to respond to questions.
    Senate was advised that the proposal had been developed by the Faculty of Applied
    Sciences in response to frequent requests from industry and alumni to offer
    • substantive professional development programs. The program focuses on developing
    the knowledge and skills that would enable participants to compete successfully in
    the rapidly expanding field of software development. The program consists of a
    curriculum in software design and development and would be delivered full time for
    six months followed by a six month paid internship with a BC high tech company.
    The Program would be administered by a Curriculum Advisory Committee in the
    Faculty of Applied Sciences which would be responsible for ensuring the academic
    quality of the curriculum and the quality of the instruction. The proposed fee of
    $17,500 would recover all costs and was comparable with programs being offered by
    other public and private providers. The OTP program started with one cohort of
    students as a pilot program in September
    1998
    and would end in April
    1999. The
    pilot was necessary because the OTP was relatively unique, being full cost recovery
    and requiring the full cooperation of industry to offer internships to all students.
    Brief discussion ensued with respect to the process for starting up programs on a pilot
    basis. Senate was informed that non-credit pilot programs do not require Senate
    approval unless they wish to establish the program as a non-credit certificate program.
    Reference was made to existing arrangements for the sharing of costs associated with
    non-credit courses and revenue generated by high fees from professional programs
    such as the EMBA program and inquiry was made as to how the revenue from this
    program would be administered. Senate was advised that discussions were ongoing
    and concern was expressed that this issue had not yet been resolved.
    . Questions were raised with respect to what happens to instructors in the program if
    the demand goes down and what kind of evaluation procedures were available.
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    grades available with an appeal and/or a withdrawal process and whether the
    Registrar's Office was involved in terms of keeping records of the grades and issuing
    transcripts. Senate was advised that all record keeping was done internally in the
    program and there was no formal process for withdrawal. It was noted that most non-
    credit programs normally have a pass/fail format and concern was expressed that the
    grading protocol for this program gave the appearance that this program might be
    trying to evolve towards a credit program within the non-credit structure. Senate was
    advised that the impetus for having grades was to demonstrate the progress of students
    to industry. There was no intent to turn the program into a credit program.
    Discussion turned to the issue of workload. Senate was advised that it was a very
    intensive workload, approximately eight hours a day, with a mixture of hands-on
    work and lectures.
    It was suggested that since the whole area of technology changes so rapidly it might
    be more appropriate to establish a framework for a more general program for offering
    and introducing new kinds of technology quickly rather than concentrating on a
    program built around one specific technology. It was agreed that the University
    should find some kind of mechanism to allow learning on demand to be offered in a
    timely fashion and it was an issue that should be given consideration. Opinion was
    expressed that this was an important issue for the University in terms of what type of
    programs would be offered under the traditional publicly funded university structure
    versus those offered at market costs. The Chair suggested that the Vice-President
    Academic and SCAP take this under advisement.
    In response to inquiries, the students in attendance advised Senate that they took the
    program in order to get a foothold and experience in the workforce and the short term
    learning experience was also very attractive. Both students felt it was important for
    the program to be based at a university as it added credibility to the courses/program.
    Discussion returned to the issue of grading/transcripts and the difference between the
    proposed non-credit program versus a credit program. It was pointed out that the
    transcript and the certificate itself would be issued by the Faculty of Applied Sciences,
    not by the Registrar's Office. All records would be kept internally. It was stressed that
    this program would not be accepted by as a credit program nor could successful
    completion of a non-credit course be applied towards work in a degree program. It
    was pointed out that the University has a quasi-legal system dealing with grades and
    grade appeals and concern was expressed that grades in this program were beyond
    scrutiny of the current grading policy and there was no formal mechanism for appeal.
    Opinion was expressed that one of the virtues of non-credit courses/programs in
    Continuing Studies was that they were not graded formally.
    Opinion was expressed that non-academic technology training programs that have no
    regular faculty members and no official grades might better be offered at technology
    institutions such as Tech BC or BCIT rather than at a university. It was pointed out
    that this program does not set precedents. There have been other very successful
    programs of this type within Continuing Studies, including a very good program from
    Applied Sciences that involved BC Tel. It was noted that in Continuing Studies highly
    qualified instructors are brought in from the community to carry out course instruction
    under the guidance of tenure-track faculty. It was also pointed out that SFU had a
    responsibility to its graduates and to the employers who hire SFU graduates to provide
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    recurrent education and upgrading. Expectations are that the University will have to
    do more rather than less of this in the future.
    Comment was made that many issues were raised during discussion. A suggestion
    that the persons responsible for offering the program report back to Senate in three
    years time on the academic and financial aspects of the program was accepted as a
    friendly amendment, with the motion revised as follows:
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors, as set forth in
    S.99-33,
    the Non-Credit Certificate for the
    Object Technology Program, and a report on the academic and
    financial aspects of the program be provided to Senate in three years"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    c)
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    Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Graduate Studies Committee
    Paper
    S.99-34 -
    Faculty of Arts - History Calendar Revision
    Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by
    J.
    Pierce
    "that the following be added to the History entry in the graduate
    Calendar: Full-time M.A. thesis-option students are expected to
    complete their degree requirements in five semesters and project-option
    students in three semesters. Part-time thesis-option students are
    expected to complete their requirements in eight semesters and part-
    time project-option students in six semesters"
    J. Little, Graduate Program Chair, History Department, was in attendance in order to
    respond to questions.
    Senate was reminded that this change had been referred back to SGSC for
    consideration and brief background information was provided. It was pointed out
    that students who do not complete their thesis in the expected timeframe would not
    be removed from the program but the time would be taken into consideration as part
    of the normal review of the student's progress in the program.
    Amendment moved by J. Emerson, seconded by
    J.
    Overington
    "that the word 'normally' be inserted in front of the two appearances of
    the word 'expected', and that the following sentence be added to end of
    the motion: The six full-time fee payment requirement is not applicable
    to these programs"
    The latter part of the motion was ruled out of order since it related to fees and was a
    matter for the Board of Governors. The first part of the motion was accepted as a
    friendly amendment. Following brief discussion with respect to the proposed
    wording, the motion was revised as follows:
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    "that the following be added to the History entry in the graduate
    Calendar: Full-time M.A. thesis-option students will normally complete
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    in three semesters. Part-time thesis-option students will normally
    complete their requirements in eight semesters and part-time project-
    option students in six semesters"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED
    Brief discussion ensued with respect to fees for this program when six full-time fee
    units are the minimum, but B. Clayman noted that students completing in less time
    are only required to pay for the time in the program.
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    Paper
    S.99-35 - Policy
    on Endowed Academic Appointments
    Moved by D. Gagan, seconded by M. A. Gillies
    "that Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board of
    Governors, as set forth in
    S.99-35,
    the revised Policy Al
    0.03 -
    Endowed
    Academic Appointments"
    Senate was advised that the revised policy was brought forward at this time to
    accommodate the University's advancement campaign for which the President has
    targeted possibly up to twenty new endowed professorships beginning with six that
    would take effect September l this year. Minor changes have been made to the
    policy having to do with making the professorships available for the purposes of
    recruitment, renewal and retention of highly qualified faculty, particularly making
    them available to faculty members of any rank. In addition, as a result of discussions
    at previous Senate meetings, revisions have been made to include Senate approval for
    the establishment of the terms of reference for endowed University Chairs.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED
    6.
    Other Business
    There was no other business.
    7.
    Information
    Date of the next regularly scheduled meeting of Senate is Monday, May 17,
    1999.
    The Open Session adjourned at 7:00 pm. The Assembly moved directly into Closed Session.
    Alison Watt
    Director, Secretariat Services
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