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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY HELD
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ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 2, 1985, KLAUS RIECKHOFF HALL, 7:00 P.M.
OPEN SESSION
Present: ?
Saywell, W.G., Chairman
Absent: ?
Almassy, E.
Basham, G.
Alderson, E. (replacing R.C.Brown)
Cercone, N.
Archer, B.
Chant, J.F.
Berggren, J.L.
Cleveland, W.
Coleman, P.
DAuria, J.M.
Clayman, B.P.
Feliman, M.
Dobb,T.C.
Flynn, G.
Geen, G.
George, D.A.
Goodman, D.
Hamilton, W.M.
Graham, G.A.C.
Hoiweg, B.
Hoegg, J.L.
LeBon, C.
Ivany, J.W.G.
Marx, R.
Kazepides, A.C.
McAllister, H.
Kennedy, P.E.
Muscroft, J.C.
Kimball, M.
Nielsen, V.
Lo, N.K.
Noonan, M.
Love, C.E.
Valentine, C.
Pinfield, L.T.
Vining, A.
Rainey, R.J.S.
Rieckhoff, K.E.
In attendance:
Roberts, M.C.
R.Cameron
Salter, L.
S. Duguid
Saunders, R.
W.S. Luk
Scott, I.M.
A. Sherwood
Singh, M.
Steele, A.G.
Strate, G.
Tay, P.
Tuinman, J.
Verdun-Jones, S.
Warsh, M.
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Weinberg, H.
Wells, E.J.
Heath, W.R., Secretary
Grant, B., Recording Secretary
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1.
Approval of the Agenda
The Agenda was approved as distributed
2.
Approval of the Minutes of the O
p
en Session of October 8. 1985
The Minutes were approved as distributed.
3.
Business Arisin
g
from the Minutes
There was no business arising from the Minutes.
4.
Re p ort of the Chairman
The Chairman reported on the successful consummation of an exchange agreement
between Jilin University in China and Simon Fraser University. Jilin University was an
excellent match with SFU in that many of its strengths were comparable to Simon Fraser and
it was hoped that a good number of SFU students would be enjoying summer school there
next year.
5.
REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
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i) ?
Paper S.85-44 - Senate Nominatin
g
Committee - Elections
Following are the results of elections to fill vacancies on the undernoted Senate
committees:
Senate Committee on Academic Discipline
One Faculty Member Alternate to replace E.J
of election to September 30, 1986.
Wells for a one-year term of office, from date
Elected by acclamation: P.E. Kennedy
Senate Committee on Continuin
g
Studies
One Faculty Senator to replace A. MacPherson for balance term of office, from date of
election to September 30, 1986.
Elected by acclamation: A. Vining
One Student Senator to replace A. Steele for balance term of office, from date of election to
September 30, 1986.
Elected by acclamation: P. Tay
Senate A
ppeals
Board
One Faculty Senator Alternate to replace J
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Ross
for no specified term of office.
Elected by
acclamation:
L. Salter
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i)
SENATE COMMITTEE ON CONTINUING STUDIES
a)
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Paper S.8545 - Annual Report
S. Duguid joined the meeting to answer questions and provide further information.
In response to an inquiry, he briefly outlined how stipends were allocated through the
Extension Credit Program. L. Pinfield felt that not all evening and downtown courses
necessarily meet the needs of students and pointed out that many students who are working
to support their full-time studies sometimes have a great degree of difficulty choosing
between gainful employment and a course which may be only offered in the evening, for
example. He noted that because of budgetary restrictions often the only way to offer a
course is through a stipend from Continuing Studies which then can only be offered in the
evening or downtown with a much smaller course enrolment than a normal course offering
on campus would have. He felt departments, judging from their own academic priorities,
should be able to determine the kind of courses to be offered and he wondered what had
happened to a suggestion made in the Presidents address about the future of SFU last
September that evening courses currently funded from stipends of Continuing Studies would
• be integrated into Departments.
W. Saywell responsed that as a result of discussions immediately following that address, it
was found that the stipend system could not be moved into departments as easily as he had
thought.
Brief discussion followed with regard to the percentage figures of FTE's in extension credit
courses.
ii)
SENATE COMMITTEE ON UNDERGRADUATE STUDIES
a)
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Pa p
er S.85-46 - Deletion of courses not offered
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by B. Clayman,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board
of Governors, that the following courses be deleted:
CHEM 007 - Chemistry in the World: An Experimental
Approach
PHYS 235 - Introductory Physics Laboratory C
PHYS 198 - Periphysical Topics III
PHYS 199 - Periphysical Topics
PHYS 494 - Special Topics in Physics
CMPT419 - Special Topics in Computing Science II"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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Senate received information that in the following instances. SCUS agreed that the response
received was sufficient justification to retain the course for the present,
with
the assurance
that those courses being retained while the curriculum is being actively reviewed, will he
subject to scrutiny in one year ('denotes such courses): KIN. 451, KIN. 452, 'MACM 360,
BICH 440, *8466441D, 'BISC 346. 'BISC 437, 'BISC 447, 'BISC 418.
b)
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Pacer S.85-47 - Philosophy
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by T. Kazepides,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-47, the proposed
new course PHIL 451 - Kant
It was noted that the majority of new courses coming before Senate for approval specify that
no additional faculty or budgetary resources are required and concerns were expressed
about their impact on the frequency of course offerings. In response to an inquiry as to the
status of a task force which had been established to look into such curriculum matters, G.
Ivany indicated that the Task Force was actively meeting and would report to Senate in due
course; however, he was not sure of the scheduled date for completion of its deliberations
Question was called and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Subject to the approval of the course by Senate and the Board of Governors the Senate
Committee on Undergraduate Studies approved waiver of the normal two-semester time
lag requirement to permit first offering of PHIL 451 in Summer 86-2.
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies acting
under delegated authority at its meeting of November 12, 1985 approved a change of
title and description for PHIL 452.
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Moved by H. Weinberg, seconded by S. Verdun-Jones,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board
of Governors, as set forth in S.85-48, the proposed
Deletion of ?
PSYC 460 - Social Psychology
New Courses - PSYC 461 - Attitudes, Social Cognition, and the Sell
PSYC 462 - Interpersonal Relations and Group
Processes'
Reference was made to the statement contained in the support documentation about current
enrolment problems with PSYC 460 and concern was expressed that splitting the course into
two would exaggerate such a problem. In response, M. Kimball pointed out that since the
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content of 460 will be divided, not all students currently interested in 460 will want to take
both courses and therefore she did not feel this split would exaggerate an enrolment
problem.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority, at its meeting of July 23, 1985, approved a change in course
description for PSYC 385.
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Paper S.85-49 - Criminology
Moved by S. Verdun-Jones, seconded by T. Kazepides,
'That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-49, the addition
of PSYC 340-3 - Psychopathology to the list of upper
division Psychology courses from which Criminology
Majors/Honors may select up to twelve (12) credit hours
in partial fulfillment of the requirement for a
is
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Major/Honors in Criminology
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority, at its meeting of October 29, 1985, approved the following
changes:
CRIM 210 - Change in course title and description
CRIM 302 Change of prerequisite
CRJM 310 - Change course title, description and prerequisite
CRIM 312 - Change of prerequisite
CRIM 332 - Change of prerequisite
CRIM 412 - Change course title and description
e)
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Paper S.85-50 - Business Administration
MOTION #1:
Moved by E. Love, seconded by T. Kazepides,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-50, that BUS. 336
be included in the core course requirements for all
business majors, including joint majors"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION 2:
Moved by E. Love, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
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That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-50, the proposed
new course: BUS. 422 - Seminar in Accounting'
P. Kennedy pointed out that the Faculty of Business Administration had made a past decision
to relax their offerings in the area of accounting and questioned whether or not there has
been a change in philosophy with regard to the introduction of 400-level seminars in
accounting. He also expressed concern about the impact a new course offering would have
given the number of students and limited faculty available to teach in this area. L. Pinfield
replied that tenure-track faculty are supplemented with Lecturers and Sessional
appointments and pointed out the accounting faculty provides opportunity to take
specialized topics in accounting by Special Topics courses.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority, at its meeting of November 12, 1985, approved the following:
BUS. 336 be changed from 5 credits to 4 credits
Change of title for BUS.442 to Introduction to Marketing Research
Change of title, description and prerequisite for BUS. 445
Change of course number and vector from BUS.415 (2-2-0) to BUS.315 (3-1-0)
Change of prerequisite for BUS. 413
Change of description for BUS. 472
f)
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Paøer 5.85-51 - Education
R. Saunders, on behalf of the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, requested that
Item (1) of the first motion (the split of EDUC 406 into two courses) be withdrawn from
consideration.
Moved by J
.
Tuinman, seconded by T. Kazepides,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-51, the proposed
new courses:
EDUC 448-4 - Law in the Curriculum
EDUC 482-4 - Designs for learning: educational uses
of computers'
Brief discussion ensued with respect to the question of resources for EDUC 482 and j.
Tuinman informed Senate that the Faculty
of Education has sufficient hardware and software
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to teach this particular course at the present time. He also provided a brief summary of the
course content in response to an inquiry as to why this was labelled a 400-level course.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Subject to the approval of courses by Senate and the Board of Governors the Senate
Committee on Undergraduate Studies approved waiver of the normal two-semester time lag
requirement to permit first offering of EDUC 448-4 and EDUC 482-4 in Summer 86-2.
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority at its meeting of November 12, 1985, approved change of title for
EDUC 474-4.
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Pa p
er S.85-52 - Biolo
g
ical Sciences
MOTION #1:
Moved by G. Geen, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-52, the changes in
the minor program in Biological Sciences"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
MOTION #2:
Moved by G. Geen, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-52, the proposed
new courses:
BISC 312-3 - Environmental Toxicology I
BISC 313-3 - Environmental Toxicology II
BISC 445-3 - Environmental Physiology of Animals
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
MOTION #3:
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by G. Geen,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board
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of Governors, as set forth in S.85-52, the deletion of DISC
311-3 - Introduction to Environmental Toxicology"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION #4:
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Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by H. Weinberg,
'That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-52, the changes to
the Environmental Toxicology Minor Program and the
Environmental Toxicology ESD Program
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority at its meeting of October 29, 1985, approved changes in
prerequisites for BISC 301, 302, 304, 305, 404, 422 and 20 1: and change of vector for BISC
400 to 3-1-0.
h)
Pa p
er S.85-53 - Chemistry
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by G. Geen,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-53, the proposed
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new course: CHEM
363-3 -
Kinetics and Mechanism'
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
i)
Paper S.85-54 - Math & Statistics
MOTION #1:
Moved by G. Geén, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
'That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-54, the proposed
new courses:
MATH 110-3 - Mathematics for the Social and
Management Sciences
MATH 16 1-0 - Honors Supplement for Calculus I
MATH 162-0 - Honors Supplement for Calculus II'
In response to a concern raised about the prerequisite of an A grade in Algebra 12, C.
Graham advised that this is a standard prerequisite statement in the Department and is
interpreted
statement
to
by
that
the
effect
Department
in the current
as
departmental
Algebra 12 or
literature
its equivalent.
in the Calendar,
Since
the
there
Chair
was
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suggested the Department may wish to include such a statement at some point in the
relevant departmental material.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Subject to the approval by Senate and the Board of Governors the Senate Committee on
Undergraduate Studies approved waiver of the normal two-semester time lag requirement
to permit first offering of these courses in Spring 86- 1.
MOTION #2:
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by C. Graham,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-54, the entry
level requirements in Mathematics"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority at its meeting of October 29, 1985, approved (I) change of
prerequisites for MATH 190-3; (ii) change of calendar description for MATH 262-4; (iii)
change of calendar description and prerequisites for MATH 263-4.
j) ?
PaDer S.85-55 - Physics
MOTION #1:
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by T. Kazepides,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-55, the proposed
minimum grade requirements"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
MOTION #2:
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by T. Kazepides,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-55, that a
statement on computer skills be added under Physics
Major and Physics Honors requirements."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION1
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Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by T. Kazepides,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-55, the
recommended courses for an Applied Physics Option"
K. Rieckhoff wished to apprise Senate of the fact that the Department had originally
proposed this Option as a Major program in Applied Physics. However, SCUS felt for a
variety of reasons that it would be very difficult to obtain approval as a major since it
would be considered a new program and therefore have to go forward to the Universities
Council for consideration. SCUS decided, with the concurrence of the Physics Department, to
propose an Applied Physics Option with recommended courses. As a result of this, it was
noted that students might encounter entry problems with the computing courses since they
will not receive consideration by Computing Science for entry into these courses as they
would if they were a required part of a program. He felt this proposal would most likely be
back before Senate for approval as a Major but in the meantime it was a good package to
recommend to students and urged Senate to support it.
Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
MOTION CARRIED ?
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Senate received information that the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, acting
under delegated authority at its meeting of October 29, 1985, approved changes in
prerequisites for PHYS 331-3 and PHYS 332-3.
k) Computing Science
i)
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Pater S.85-56
MOTION #1:
Moved by B. Clayman. seconded by N.K. Lo,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Baord of Governors, as set forth in S.85-56, the new GPA
requirement for declaration"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION #2:
Moved by D. Goodman, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-56, that the
declaration CGPA be lowered to 2.5
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
ii) PaDer S.85-57
W.S. Luk and R. Cameron from the School of Computing Science joined the meeting to
answer questions and provide further information.
MOTION
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Moved by L. Pinfield, seconded by R. Saunders,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-57, that the
regulations governing formal acceptance of transfer and
second degree students into Computing Science programs
be established as follows:
I A transfer or second degree student who has
completed at least 12 credits of computing-related
courses (courses which can be used in calculation of the
Computing-Related GPA Requirement for Declaration) at
SFU will be considered for admission to a Computing
Science program on the same basis as any other student
(i.e. based on CGPA and Computing-Related GPA over
courses taken at SFU)
2. A transfer or second degree student who has not
completed at least 12 credits of computing-related
courses, but who has at least 57 semester hours of credit
and has credit for all the lower division course
requirements of a Computing Science program may apply
to the School for special admission consideration based on
transcripts from other post-secondary institutions"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION #2:
Moved by L. Pinfield, seconded by R. Saunders,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-57, the changes to
lower divisiOn requirements"
Brief discussion took place with regard to the process of liaison between departments in the
area of service courses and whether or not such liaison had occurred between Math and
Computing Science in this instance. R. Cameron advised that the Math Department had been
kept informed of changes which Computing felt affected that Department but the changes in
their entirety had not been forwarded.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
MOTION #3
Moved by L. Pinfield, seconded by R. Saunders,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-57, the new
course proposals:
CMPT 307-3 - Data Structures and Algorithms
CMPT 309-3 - Introduction to Formal Languages
and Automata with Applications
CMPT 412-3 - Computational Vision
CMPT 490-3 - VLSI Systems Design"
C. Graham expressed concern with regard to an overlap problem between CMPT
309
and
MACM 306 and 402 which are courses taught by Mathematics. He explained that the matter
had been discussed at some length with Computing but there was a difference of opinion
which he felt could only be resolved by referral back to SCUS. He pointed out this concern
also applied to Motion
#5
with respect to the proposed changes to the Upper Division Degree
Requirements for Majors also dealing with CMPT 309.
R. Saunders stated that the matter of overlap had not been an issue at SCUS; R. Cameron
advised that although Computing Science was aware of some concerns within Mathematics
Department, it was his understanding that the course had received approval by the
Mathematics Undergraduate Curriulu m Committee. Brief discussion followed.
Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by T. Kazepides,
"That the item in Motion 3 concerning the proposed new
course CMPT 309-3 be referred back to the appropriate
committee to deal with the issue of overlap"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION TO REFER CARRIED
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Question was called on Motion
4 3 as altered by
the motion of referral, and a vote taken.
MOTION:
Moved by L. Pinfield, seconded by R. Saunders,
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MOTION
#3
(AS ALTERED) CARRIED
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-7, course
changes as follows:
CMPT 10 1 as specific prerequisite
Changes to CMPT 362
Renumbering of CMPT 380
Changes to CMPT 404
Prerequisite change for CMPT 406
Operating Systems Courses
Prerequisite change for CMPT 410
.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION #5
Moved by L. Pinfield, seconded by N.K. Lo,
MOTION CARRIED
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-57, the following
changes:
Upper Division Reorganization
Elimination of Key Courses
Computing Presentation Requirement
Special Topics Courses
Upper Division Degree Requirements for Majors
Changes to Minor Requirements
Upper Division Credit Requirement for Transfer Students
DSDP Changes"
Moved by C. Graham, seconded by T. Kazepides,
That the item in Motion 5 dealing with the proposed
changes to Upper Division Degree Requirements for
Majors be referred back to the appropriate committee for
consideration"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION TO REFER CARRIED
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Question was called on Motion
#5
as altered by
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the motion of referral, and a vote taken.
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MOTION #5
(AS ALTERED) CARRIED
iv) SENATE COMMITTEE ON ACADEMIC PLANNING
i)
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Paper S.85-58 - Proposed Co
g nitive Science Program
Moved by H. Weinberg, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, the following revisions to the
Program in Psychology, Linguistics and Philosophy:
(a)
that the (Joint-Majors) Program in Psychology,
Linguistics and Philosophy be renamed as (Majors)
'Program in Cognitive Science';
(b)
that the curriculum for the Majors Program in
Cognitive Science be as set out in Senate paper
S.85-58,
with a minimum grade point average of 2.0 required for
entry and continuance;
(c)
that an Honors Program in Cognitive Science be added
with curriculum as set out in Senate paper S.85-58 and
with a minimum grade point average of 3.0 required for
entry and continuance"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
ii) ?
Paper S.85-59 - Re g
istration Priority System
A. Sherwood, Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee on Registration Priority System joined the
meeting to answer questions and provide further information.
MOTION #1:
Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate delegate to the Senate Committee on
Undergraduate Studies the responsibility to approve and
review practices and procedures incorporating Motions 2
through 5 which follow into the University's registration
system"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION #2:
Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
That Faculties offering courses where student demand
exceeds course enrolment limits be allowed to reserve a
specified number of course places for particular groups of
students, such as Majors, COOP students, etc.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
MOTION #3
Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
That Faculties offering courses where student demand
exceeds course enrolment limits be allowed to specify
GPA minima for entry into the course
Speaking against the motion R. Rainey expressed concern that this motion, in allowing
faculties and departments to establish a second gpa which students must reach in order to
enter particular courses, could create a situation whereby a student at the 400-level would
be denied entry into a particular course needed for graduation and since he would have so
many credits accumulated it would be almost impossible by that time to allow a student to
bring his gpa up to a level which would allow entry into the course or else he/she would
have to spend an extra amount of time working on redundant courses to bring his/her gpa
up to an acceptable level. He was also opposed to the two tier system for continuance which
he felt this motion would create and pointed out that while a student technically may be able
to
continue with a gpa of 2.0 or higher, it is possible to find out later that it may not allow
you to graduate because entry to particular courses are restricted.
Referring to the current enrolment pressures, K. Rieckhoff noted that it was impossible to
accommodate current demands for certain courses and felt this option which was based on
strictly academic merit was the only solution an academic institution could choose.
G. Ivany pointed out that while the formula weights a student's gpa, it also takes into
consideration the number of semester hours completed thereby allowing a student with a
lower gpa entry into a course needed for graduation and referred to the example contained
on the final page of the Ad Hoc Committee's report.
Considerable discussion ensued with respect to the relationship of motion 3 to motion 4 and
A. Sherwood provided further details as to how the proposed formula would operate.
Concerns were expressed about allowing departments/faculties the possibility to introduce
specific gpa minima for specific groups in specific courses and it was noted that it would be
the responsibility of SCUS to determine whether such recommendations from
departments/faculties were legitimate or not. Concern was expressed that such a process
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would not allow enough time for students to receive advance notice to plan their studies
should they find they cannot continue in a program because of a minima gpa on particular
courses.
Lengthy debate continued in which a variety of opinions were expressed.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION FAILED
MOTION #4
Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
That priority access to a reserved course place as set out
in Motion 2 be determined on the basis of
(a)
semester hours completed, and to a lesser degree
(b)
level of performance in recent semesters
P. Kennedy expressed concern that this motion would result in high demand programs
graduating fewer students with a higher degree of specialization as opposed to graduating a
larger number of students with a smaller degree of specialization and that students who
were going to take courses in addition to those required would have priority over those who
might have a lower gpa but needed the course to graduate and he wondered if this
implication had been taken into consideration by the Committee. A. Sherwood responded
that the intent of the system was that students who were working towards completion of
their degree requirements would have greater access to courses and that once you have
finished your requirements you would then have no additional priority and would have to
compete for courses along with the other students in that level. G. Ivany added that priority
of access to a reserved space would be determined on the basis of semester hours completed
which meant the more hours completed, the higher the priority.
Concern was expressed about departments/faculties having the right to reserve specific
spots for specific categories of students and, in response, it was pointed out that
recommendations for such reservations would have to be documented through the
Registrars Office and approved by SCUS and that it would be the responsibility of SCUS to
ensure that an adequate number of spots were left open to provide service courses to the
University.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION #5.
Moved by C. Ivany, seconded by K. Rieckhoff.
"That in the case of WD withdrawals from courses where
student demand exceeds course enrolment limits,
students lose priority in that course for the next
semester"
Speaking in opposition, R. Rainey felt the motion overlooked the reasons for course
withdrawals which he felt were considerable and generally quite honorable and therefore
students should have every right to expect full priority should they choose to return to the
same couse in the following semester.
K. Rieckhoff expressed opinion that in order to use resources effectively the University,
especially in high demand programs, has to discourage withdrawals as much as possible and
this was one way of doing so and one way of ensuring that students with lower priority will
not be kept out of a course by students with a higher priority who are able to afford to
withdraw.
Discussion turned to the issue of WEs as opposed to WD's and how this proposal would affect
the administration of these procedures.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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SENATE GRADUATE STUDIES COMMITTEE
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Pa p er S.85-60 - Chan g
es to the Graduate Gradin
g
System ?
Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by T. Kazepides,
'That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-60, the proposed
change in the Graduate Grading System:
The Graduate Grading System be changed as follows:
ii the introduction of A-, B+ and B- grades
ii) replacement of P by C"
Speaking against the motion. K. Rieckhoff expressed opinion that evaluation of a graduate
student should be different from the undergraduate because of the importance of the
research reouirement at the Qraduate level. ?
He went on to nrovide brief back2round
information as to why a different letter (P) was used at the graduate level instead of C and
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pointed out that the current system had been carefully considered based on a certai
philosophy.
B. Clayman advised that this proposal had been extensively discussed at all levels of the
university and the majority of opinion at all levels was that in view of current practices and
current feelings a finer scale of distinction should and could be made at. the graduate level.
Speaking in favour of the motion, T. Kazepides advised that he currently makes these fine
distinctions for his graduate grades and he would be pleased to officially see them on the
student's transcript.
The Chairman interjected at this point to draw Senate's attention to Section V.A.7 of the
Rules of Senate which state that the open session of any regular meeting normally shall
terminate not later than 10:00 p.m. unless the time is extended by a motion.
Moved by T. Kazepides, seconded by B. Clayman,
"That the Open Session of Senate be extended for one-half
hour"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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B. Archer inquired as to what had happened to a letter addressed to Senate from ihe
graduate students in Sociology and Anthropology expressing their concerns about this
particular motion. B. Clayman advised that the letter had been distributed and considered
at a meeting of the Senate Graduate Studies Committee that afternoon and reported that the
Committee did not choose to alter its recommendations to Senate. B. Archer believed it was
the intent of the students to have the letter read by Senate and he went on to explain their
concern that with this increased fine distinction there will be an unanticipated consequence
linked up to how scholarships, stipends and TAships will be divided and that type of
competitive system was felt to be undesirable and counterproductive to learning in general.
B. Clayman pointed out that with the present system grade point criteria are brought to bear
constantly and he did not see the relevance of this change in the method of assigning grades
to the allocation of financial aid.
M. Roberts pointed out that most other universities in Canada have a more refined system.
for grading at the graduate level and he felt such fine tuning was very important,
particularly at the Master's level where there was a large course work component, the
proposed system would provide students with a much clearer indication as to how well they
were doing.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED ?
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Moved by G. Geen, seconded by B. Clayman,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set
forth
in S.85-61, the proposed
Graduate curriculum changes in the Department of
Biological Sciences:
0 Deletion of courses:
BISC 809 Student Seminar
BISC 825 - Forest Physiology
BISC 826 - Advanced Electrophysiology
BISC 835 - Photobiolology
BISC 866- Selected Topics in Plant Development
ii)
Change of title /description for BISC 811 to:
The Molecular Biology of Prokaryotes. Selected
modern studies in this area will be critically reviewed.
iii)
Change of title /description for BISC 861 to:
The Molecular Biology of Eukaryotes. Current
research literature will be examined in detail.
iv)
Change of title/description for BISC 806 to:
Evolutionary Theory. A consideration of recent
advanced and current controversies in our
understanding of the development, diversification and
adaptation of life through natural selection.
v)
Change of title/description for BISC 824 to:
Survival Strate
g ies. An examination of how
organisms acquire, sequester and allocate the
resources necessary for survival.
vi)
Change of title/description for BISC 827 to:
Behavioural Ecology Seminar. An introduction to the
important issues, methods and philosophy of
behavioural ecology, and discussion current topics.
Grading will be on a S/U basis.
vii)Change of title/ description for BISC 836 to:
Reproductive Strate
g ies. An examination of the
behavioural, ecological and life history means
whereby organisms maximize their lifetime
reproductive success.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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c)
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Paper S.85-62 - Com p
utin g
Science
Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-62, the proposed
addition to the Graduate Calendar for the School of
Computing Science:
Admission from a Masters Pro g
ram to the Ph.D. Program
The School does not encourage students to proceed to a
Ph.D. without first obtaining an M.Sc.; however, a student
who so desires may be admitted from an M.Sc. program
to a Ph.D. program after having completed all of the
courses required for the M.Sc. with a minimum CGPA of
3.5 and with the approval of the students Supervisory
Committee and the Director of the School of Computing
Science. Application to change programs will be
processed in the same manner as other applications for
admission to the Ph.D. program
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
d)
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Paver S.85-63 - Business Administration
Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by T. Kazepides,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-63, the proposed
changes to the Day MBA program:
i)
Change in credit requirements to:
Project Option: 8 courses plus a research project
Thesis Option: 6 courses plus a thesis
ii)
Delete from the approved list of Accounting courses:
BUS. 876-4 - Decision Support Systems;
Delete from the approved list of Organization Behavior
courses:
BUS. 833-4 - Trends and Issues in Micro Organization
Behaviour
BUS. 834-4 - Macro Perspectives on Organization
iii)
That the minimum number of courses in a supporting
field will be two under the project option and one
under the thesis option
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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e)
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Paper S.85-64 - MRM Program
Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by G. Geen,
That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-64, the proposed
graduate
curriculum changes for MRM:
i) Change Calendar Entry to: Seventy-five (75) credit
hours are prescribed for the program, fifty (50)of which
are from the required group and twenty-five (25) are
from the electives. With the approval of the Program
Director, up to seven courses (35 credit hours) may be
transfer credits from another institution.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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f)
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Pater S.85-65 - MRM 631
Moved by B. Clayman, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-65, the proposed
change in title/ description of MRM 631 to:
Applied
GeomorDholoy
and Hydrology. A review of
geomorphic and hydrologic principles; the morphology of
drainage basins; selected case studies."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
vi)
SENATE COMMITTEE ON AGEND AND RULES
II
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by H. Weinberg,
"That Senate approve the reorganization of the Senate
Committee on Scholarships, Awards and Bursaries as set
out in Senate Paper S.85-66, including the formation of a
Policy Committee, and Undergraduate and Graduate
Adjudication Committees with memberships and
responsibilities as defined"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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6.
OTHER BUSINESS
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The Chairman was asked to commmunciate Senates unanimous congratulations and
best wishes to Dr. David Strangway on his installation as the President of the University of
British Columbia.
7.
NOTICES OF MOTION
There were no notices of motion.
8.
INFORMATION
The next regular meeting of Senate is scheduled for Monday, January 6, 1986.
The Assembly moved directly into Closed Session at 10:15 p.m.
W.R. Heath
Secretary of the Senate
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