DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
    MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY HELD
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    MONDAY, MARCH 4, 1985, KLAUS RIECKHOFF HAIL, 7:00 P.M.
    OPEN SESSION
    Present: ?
    Sa3Jwell, W.G.,
    Chairman
    Archer, B.
    Berggren, T.
    Blackman, R.
    Brown, R.
    Calvert, T.
    Chiuh, K.
    Cleveland, W.
    Cochran, J.
    Dalby, S.
    Dickinson, J.
    Dobb, T.
    Flynn, G.
    George, D.
    Graham, C.
    Hoegg, J.L.
    Ivany, G.
    Kameda, T.
    Kazepides, A.
    McAllister, H.
    McDonald, D.
    McGeer, B.T.
    McKinlay, J.
    Nielsen, V.
    Okuda, T.
    Pinfield, L.
    Ross, J.
    Scott, I.
    Swartz, N.
    Tham J.
    Tuinman, J.
    Warsh, M.
    Webster, J.
    Weinberg, H.
    Wells, E.J.
    Zeller, P.
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    Absent: Barrow, R.
    Cavers, J.
    D'Auria, J.
    Kimball, M.
    Strate, G.
    In attendance: Harden, E.
    Heath, W.R., Secretary
    ---Grant,
    -B-,-Recording -Secretary-
    Basham, G.
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    Berggren, J.
    Chin, K.
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    Crawford, C.
    Hamilton, W.
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    Hoyt, C.
    MacPherson, A. Noonan, M.
    Wideen, M.
    Jackson, M.
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    Kitchirig, L.
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    Newly elected Student Senators, T.M. Berggren (Faculty of Engineering Science), K.
    i s
    Chiuh (Faculty of Arts) and I. Scott (Faculty of Science), were welcomed to Senate by
    the Chairman.
    1.
    APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
    The Agenda was approved as distributed.
    2. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
    The Minutes of the Open Session of January
    28, 1985
    were approved as
    distributed.
    3.
    BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES.
    There was no business arising from the Minutes.
    14. REPORT OF THE CHAIRMAN
    i)
    The Chairman reported that the Board of Governors approved all actions
    recommended and forwarded by Senate fran its last meeting.
    ii)
    The Chairman advised that at its last meeting the Board of Governors
    received as notice of motion a proposed increase in tuition fees of 10.2% and
    reminded Senate that the proposal would be presented at the next Board meeting for
    decision.
    iii)
    Senate was informed of the Chair's intent to forward to the next Board
    meeting a proposed policy for use in the event of a financial exigency. The Chairman
    explained that he felt it was more open and honest for the academic community to have
    advance knowledge of the University's plans in the event of such a crisis and it was
    for this reason that the proposal was being forwarded at this point.
    5.
    REPORTS OF CON an.'is
    i) SENATE NOMINATING COMIVttirh
    a) Paper
    S.85-6 -
    Elections
    Following is the result of an election to fill a vacancy on the undernoted Senate
    committees:
    Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Camiittee on University Budget
    One Student Senator to replace R. Stewart for balance term of office, fran date of
    election to September 30,
    1986:
    Elected by acclamation: H. MCALLISTER
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    Senate Library Committee
    COne Senator at-large to replace R. Stewart for balance term of office, frcn date of
    election to September 30, 1985:
    Elected by acclamation: G. FLYNN
    Senate Nainating Ccnmittee
    One Student Senator to replace R. Stewart for balance term of office, from date of
    election to September 30, 1985:
    Elected by acclamation: M. NOONAN
    ii) SENATE GRADUATE STUDIES COMMITTEE
    a)
    Paper 3.85-7 - Graduate Studies - General Regulations
    Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Okuda,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth In
    S.85-7,
    the
    proposed change in Section 1.7.2 of the Graduate
    Studies - General Regulations:-
    FROM: One-half of the minimum must be taken at SF11
    TO:
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    One-half of the minimum course work of the
    departmental degree requirements must be taken at SF0"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    &)TION CARRIED
    b)
    Paper S.85-8 - Annual Report
    Senate received for Information the Annual Report of the Senate Graduate Studies
    Camnittee.
    iii) EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE SENATE GRADUATE STUDIES COMMITTEE
    a) Paper 3.85-9 - Annual Report
    Senate received for Information the Annual Report of the Executive Camnittee of the
    Senate Graduate Studies Caiimlttee.
    - iv) - SENATE COMMITTEE ON ACP1DENIC - PLANNING/SENATE COMMITTEE ON UNDERGRADUATE STUDIES
    a) Paper S.85-10 - Proposed discontinuation of Honors, Major and Minor Programs in
    Russian and German
    The Chairman introduced the following speakers who had requested opportunity to
    address Senate on the proposed discontinuation of German and Russian programs.
    E. Harden, Russian Division, Dept. of Languages Literatures & Lin
    g
    uistics drew the
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    tention of Senate to her statement to SCAP and clarified sane points of information
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    rtainin.g to the contact hours of faculty members teaching in Russian. Speaking
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    against the proposed retention of only four lower level language courses in Russian
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    she expressed her belief that while one cannot learn to speak with fluency In two

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    years one could learn to read very well and pointed out the possibilities for greater
    creativity and challenge that a reduced program in Russian translation would offer.
    She questioned the choice of courses proposed by the administration and pointed out
    that the saving in salary is due to an early retirement in Russian rather than the
    proposed program reduction. Reference was made to the demands fran the government
    for restraint and subsequent media announcements of such cuts and Senators were asked
    to take all these factors into consideration.
    M. Jackson, German Division, Dept. of Languages, Literatures & Linguistics drew
    Senate's attention to the brief she presented to SCAP and pointed out that there were
    171 enrolments in German courses which she felt canpared well both to other Divisions
    in the DLLL of similar size and to other small departments. She urged Senate to
    support the proposal for a highly structured minor degree program, as outlined on
    page 2 of the brief, which the German Division felt could be administered efficiently
    and effectively by the current faculty complement in German . The contributions
    German makes to other disciplines in the University were pointed out and she
    encouraged the possibility of developing more integrated programs.
    L. Kitching, German Division, Dept. of Languages, Literatures & Linguistics spoke
    against the discontinuation of the German program and the proposal to abolish all but
    four of the lower level language courses stating that the administration had failed
    to take into account the kind of students who take German courses. For example, some
    students seek to gain language skills and a knowledge of the language while others
    who already possess advanced language skills wish to study literature and
    civilization. He expressed concern about the procedures used whereby the proposals
    have reached Senate and spoke in favour of retaining the study of literature in a
    minor
    MOTION
    program.
    #1:
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    Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Okuda,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth in S.85-10, that the
    degree programs, including honors, majors and minors,
    in Russian be discontinued with the appropriate phasing
    out of the program as early as possible but in a manner
    that ensures students well-advanced in the programs are.
    givenreasonable opportunity for canpletion."
    (Note:
    1.
    It is understood that procedures and regulations
    covering students in programs and phasing out will
    cane forward later for approval.
    2.
    It is understood that no new honors, majors or
    minor students will be accepted into these programs
    after April 30, 1985.
    3.
    It is understood that there may be need of
    restructuring DILL.
    P
    roposals could come forward
    later for consideration when canpieted.)
    K. Rieckhoff expressed concern that alternatives to the proposal had not been
    thoroughly explored nor discussed at appropriate committee levels and stated he was
    not convinced that the proposed reduction was the most effective utilization of
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    R. Brown briefly summarized background information leading up to the present proposal
    to retain a minimal language instructional component in Russian and German and
    pointed out that no commitment had been made to retain current faculty in these
    areas. However, if the University were able to retain their services, there were
    alternative proposals for more effective use. R. Brown stressed the fact that this
    is a financial response to a budget crisis and asked Senators to recognize the fact
    that the University cannot continue its current offerings with compression of the
    budget across the board.
    Concerns were expressed about the lack of adequate documentation in the materials
    presented to Senate and request was made for clarification as to the actual savings
    of the proposed cuts in terms of dollars and percentage of the budget of the
    University and the Faculty of Arts.
    G. Ivany replied that for the past several years the University has undergone a
    general compression of the budget which has critically affected all programs and
    departments in the university. As a result, the administration undertook a number of
    steps with the overall intent of reducing in the current budget year the faculty
    complement by 1.2 million dollars of salary through procedures such as early
    retirement, and therefore it has not been necessary to involuntarily remove any
    tenure-track faculty to this point. G. Ivany further explained that the ongoing
    budget must continue to come down in order to enable careful planning and to continue
    to strengthen areas with high enrolment whose excellence is being threathened by the
    compression which has occured in the past. The proposal to cut Russian and German is
    a statement informing the public that the University is not intending to commit
    itself over the long term to these areas. G. Ivany went on to explain the criteria
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    used to choose one program over another and why the four lower level language course
    sequence was chosen in Russian and German.
    Debate continued with respect to the rationale, procedures and alternatives to the
    proposed motions.
    'G. Flynn expressed concern that questions involving cost alternatives to the motions
    and the more fundamental questions of criteria for discontinuation of programs do not
    appear in a formal and specific way in the Senate material.
    The following was moved by G. Flynn, seconded by H. McAllister,
    "That the motions on the floor regarding German and
    Russian programs be referred back to committee with
    specific instructions that SCUS and SCAP formalize the
    criteria for discontinuation of academic programs, in
    this case German and Russian, and to formally deal with
    Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
    MOTION TO REFER FATLFD
    Question was called on the main motion, and a vote taken.
    ?IYHON #1 CARRIED
    • MOTION #2:
    Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Okuda
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the

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    Board of Governors, as set forth in
    S.85-10,
    that a
    sequence of four Russian language courses, i.e. Russian
    100-3, 101-3, 201-3
    and
    202-3
    be retained. All other
    existing Russian courses will be discontinued or
    transferred to other programs as of August
    31, 1987.
    The following courses will be eliminated or transferred
    to other programs: Russian 105-1, 106-1,
    300-3, 301-3,
    302-3, 110-3, 111-3, 211-3, 310-3, 311-3, 140-3, 340-3,
    341-3, 401-3, 402-4, 406-3, 407-3, 450-3, 451-3, 452-3,
    453-3, 454-3, 455-3, 449-3"
    In reply to an irxiuiry as to the transfer of Russian courses to other programs, G.
    Ivany explained that this referred to a possibility of offering some of the
    translation courses in a possible canparative literature canponent.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION #2 CARRIED
    MOTION #3:
    Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Okuda,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth in
    S.85-10,
    that the
    degree programs, including honors, majors and minors,
    in German be discontinued with appropriate phasing out
    of the program as early as possible but in a manner
    that ensures students well-advanced in the programs are
    given reasonable opportunity for canpietion.
    (Note:
    1.
    It Is understood that procedures and regulations
    covering students in programs and phasing out will
    cane forward later for approval when canpleted.
    2.
    It is understood that no new honors, majors or
    minor students will be accepted into these programs
    after April
    30, 1985.
    3.
    It is understood that there may be need of
    restructuring DILL. Proposals could come forward
    later for consideration when canpleted)"
    K. Rieckhoff spoke against the discontinuation of the minor program pointing out that
    SFU has the only German program where its upper level courses are taught in the
    language.
    Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
    MOTION
    #3
    CARRIED
    MOTION #4:
    Moved by G. Ivany, seconded by K. Okuda,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth In
    S.85-10,
    that a
    sequence of four German language courses, i.e. German
    102-4, 103-4, 201-3
    and
    202-3
    be retained. All other
    existing German courses will be discontinued or
    transferred to other programs on August
    31, 1987.
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    The following courses will be eliminated or transferred
    to other programs: German
    140-3, 205-1, 240-3, 300-3,
    301-3, 350-3, 360-3, 370-3, 371-3, 1401-3, 402-3, 4014-3,
    1406-3,
    1
    408-3, 409-3, 1443-3, 444-3, 1446-3, 447-3, 14149-3,
    451-3, 455-3, 1459-3, 1460-3, 1461-3"
    Question was called, and ,a vote taken.
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    4YPI0N #14 CARRIED ?
    V)
    SENATE COMMITTEE ON ACADEMIC PLANNING/SENATE GRADUATE STUDIES W-1MITTEE
    a) Paper
    s.85-11 -
    Proposed discontinuation of M.A. and Ph.D. Programs in Russian
    and German
    MOTIONS 1 & 2:
    Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Okuda,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth in
    S.85-11:
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    that the M.A. and Ph.D. Programs in Russian be
    discontinued and
    - that all existing graduate courses in Russian be
    discontinued as of August
    31, 1985
    Note: The following courses will be eliminated: RUSS
    800-4,
    RUSS
    801-
    1 4,
    RUSS
    802-14,
    RUSS
    803-14,
    RUSS
    804-14,
    W RUSS
    805-14,
    RUSS
    806-14,
    RUSS
    807-
    1
    4,
    RUSS
    808-14, RUSS
    809-4,
    RUSS
    810-14,
    RUSS
    898
    M.A. Thesis, RUSS
    899
    Ph.D.
    Thesis"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTIONS 3 & 4:
    Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Okuda,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth in
    S.85-11:
    -
    that the M.A. and Ph.D. Programs in German be
    discontinued and
    - that all existing graduate courses in German be
    discontinued as of August
    31, 1985.
    Note: The following courses will be eliminated: GERM
    700-4,
    GERM
    820- 1
    4,
    GERM
    821-4,
    GERM
    822-14,
    GERM
    823-14,
    GERM
    8214-4,
    GERM
    825-4,
    GERM
    826-
    1
    4,
    GERM
    827-14,
    GERM
    890-4,
    GERM
    898
    M.A. Thesis, GERM
    899
    Ph.D. Thesis"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
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    a)
    vi)
    Paper
    SENATE
    S.85-12
    COMMITTEE
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    ON
    Recommendations
    AGENDA AND RULES
    on
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    paper circulation for Masters and Ph.D.
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    candidates
    Moved by T. Kazepides, seconded by W Cleveland,
    "That Senate be provided with the lists of candidates
    for graduate degrees at both the Masters and Ph.D.
    levels, with the lists to include the following: the
    name of the candidate, the candidate's faculty, the
    recommended degree and the thesis title. Full
    documentation will be available for review by Senators
    in the Office of the Dean of Graduate Studies and the
    Registrar prior to the Senate meeting at which the
    lists of candidates will be presented"
    Amendment moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That the name of the Senior Supervisor be included on
    the list of items provided to Senate"
    Question was called on the motion to amend, and a vote taken.
    AMENDMENT CARRIED
    Question was called on the motion as amended, and a vote taken.
    MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED
    b)
    Paper
    s.85-13 -
    Recanmendations on Senate term of office
    1984/85)
    Moved by T. Kazepides, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That Senate approve,
    1)
    for
    1985,
    the date of assumption of office in the
    regular elections to Senate be September 1,
    1985,
    and
    2)
    the term of office for those members whose term is
    to expire on May
    31, 1985
    be extended to August
    31,
    1985"
    R. Heath briefly provided the rationale explaining that the proposal was necessitated
    by the changes to the organizational structure of the University which will take
    effect September 1,
    1985.
    He also referred to the proposed procedure to be followed
    in the upcoming elections to Senate with regard to the ratio for faculty members
    which was received by Senate for information.
    In reply to an inquiry from N. Swartz as to whether or not the proposed extensions of
    term were in compliance with the University Act, R. Heath explained that the Act does
    not set the starting and ending dates for terms of office, the matter is addressed in
    the Rules of Senate where the 'normal' dates are May
    31
    and June 1 for termination
    and commencement respectively. In addition, Senate earlier adopted the procedures
    for setting terms of office so that approximately one-third of the faculty terms
    expire each year.
    Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
    MOTION CARRIED

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    6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES
    There were no reports from Faculties.
    7...OTHER BUSINESS
    There was no other business.
    8.
    NOTICES OF MOTION
    There were no notices of motion.
    9.
    INFORMATION
    The next regular meeting of Senate is scheduled for Monday, April 1,
    1985.
    The Assembly moved directly into Closed Session at
    9:10
    p.m.
    W. R. Heath
    Secretary
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