DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
    MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY
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    HELD ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1983 - KLAUS RIECKNOFF HALL
    OPEN SESSION
    Present: ?
    Pedersen, K.G., Chairman
    Banister, E.W.
    Absent: ?
    Cot, P.T.
    Bennett, R.N.D.
    Gehibach, R.D.
    Bhakthan, N.M.G.
    Henderson, R.E.
    Blaney, J.P.
    Leiss, W.
    Brown, R.C.
    Littmann, H.
    Calvert, T.W.
    Overholt, M.J.
    Carter, S.D.
    Van Loon,
    M.
    Clark, K.
    Wideen, M.
    Cleveland, W.L.
    Cochran, J.F.
    Crawford, C.B.
    In attendance:
    D'Auria, J.M.
    McMillan,
    A.C.
    Dobb, T.C.
    Edelmann,I.D.
    Hale, L.
    Holmes, R.A.
    Hoyt, G.C.
    Irwin, J.C.
    Johnston, H.J.M.
    Jones, C.H.W.
    Kameda, T.
    Krebs, D.L.
    MacPherson, A.
    McDonald, D.
    McKeown, B.A.
    Munro, J.M.
    Murray, P.R.
    Naki, S.
    Nielsen, V.
    O'Fallon, C.E.
    Okuda, K.
    Prock, L.M.
    Rieckhoff, K.E.
    Schachter, B.
    Stewart, R.
    Strong, M.
    Swartz, N.
    Tuinman, J.
    Verdun-Jones, S . N.
    Webster, J.M.
    Weinberg, H.
    Wotherspoon, A.J.
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    Evans, H.M., Secretary
    Heath, N.
    Grant, B., Recording Secretary

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    1.
    APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
    The agenda was approved as distributed.
    2.
    APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
    The Minutes of the Open Session of January 10, 1983 were amended
    and approved as follows:,
    Page 6, Item (ii-g), second paragraph,
    :- CMPT 410-3 amended to CMPT 401-3.
    3.
    BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
    In reply to an inquiry as to the latest update on the preliminary
    enrolment figures, the Secretary indicated that there were no unusual
    fluctuations in the level of enrolment.
    4.
    REPORT OF THE CHAIRMAN
    a) A number of universities across Canada are currently involved in
    the
    planning
    of
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    a National Universities Week to be held October 2-8,
    1983. The public would be invited to visit campuses during this
    particular week and universities are asked to plan a variety of
    activities, at little additional cost to the institution, which would
    draw
    attentiän
    to the role and value of Canadian universities to
    society.
    b). Senate was informed-that initial funding had been received for the
    Implementation of the Engineering Science Program. However, the
    level of support was not sufficient to implement the program in its
    entirety. The electronics and computing streams would therefore be
    offered initially; i.e. Fall 1983.
    D. George, currently Director of the Program, has been appointed as
    Dean of the new Faculty.
    c), The Chairman reported that a recent meeting called by the Deputy
    Minister of Universities at the request of the Faculty Association
    who wished to offer more assistance in dealing with the fiscal problems
    facing universities, at the present 'time and develop a better
    communications between the Assoóiations, Board of Governors and
    administrators,"had proved successful. However, indications at.that
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    meeting were that the
    financial
    outlook for the coming year was
    relatively dismal and that universities would be fortunate to receive
    the same level of support as they had last year.
    5.
    REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
    i) Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board
    a) S.83-16 Revised - Proposed. Policy on B.C. Private High Schools
    Moved by J. Munro, seconded by W. Cleveland,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to
    the Board or Governors, as set .forth in S.83-16
    Revised
    'That for admission from a Private High School,
    Simon Fraser University consider only those
    qualified applicants from Private High
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    granted Group II status under the Ministry
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    of Education guidelines. Where a school
    chooses to remain outside the Ministry of
    Education guidelines for Group II status,
    for reasons other than academic, the Senate
    Undergraduate Admissions Board may grant
    a waiver'
    That this policy become effective for
    applicants in 1984 and subsequently."
    A. McMillan, Director of Admissions, was in attendance as a
    resource person.
    Senate was reminded by the Chairman that this paper had been
    referred back to the Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board for further
    consideration.
    J. Munro reintroduced the paper indicating that the policy was
    needed for three reasons: (a) SFU's current practice with respect to
    private high schools has been inconsistent; (b) the creation of schools
    designed for the purpose of preparing foreign students for university
    level education was developing into a considerable industry in other parts
    of Canada and academic standards in these schools were questionable.
    SUAB therefore wished to tighten the regulations concerning private high
    schools before this became a problem in B.C.; (c) there is no assurance
    that graduates of unfunded and Group I schools are offered the same curriculuxi
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    and quality of teaching available in the public high schools and inspected
    Group II Private High Schools.
    Since the intent of the last sentence of paragraph one of the motion
    was to allow schools to be granted a waiver rather than individual students,
    the following suggestion made by N. Swartz was accepted as a friendly
    amendment:
    'Where a school chooses to remain outside the Ministry
    of Education guidelines for Group II status, for
    reasons other than academic, the Senate Undergraduate
    Admissions Board may grant that school a waiver'
    On the asumption that the intent of the motion was to include other
    provinces as well as B.C., R. Stewart made the following suggestion which
    was also accepted as .a friendly amendment:
    'That for admission from a Private High School, Simon
    Fraser University consider only those qualified
    applicants from Private High Schools granted Group II
    status under the Ministry of Education guidelines
    including those in other provinces and territories.'
    It was pointed out that other provinces may not grant Group II status
    and it was agreed that the Secretary would develop an appropriate wording
    for the amendment on the understanding that it was equivalency which
    Senate was concerned with.
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    A further amendment was moved by K. Okuda, seconded by C. Crawford,
    "That the following sentence be added to the first
    paragraph - 'Applicants from other high schools must
    achieve an acceptable score on the Scholastic Aptitude
    Test to be admitted'

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    Ensuing discussion indicated support forthe sntixuent of the
    amendment but concerns were expressed that the Scholastic Aptitude
    Test was not appropriate. It was also noted that no suitable alter-
    native test existed at the present time.
    A further suggestion was made to include the possibility of
    students taking an equivalent examination and the following was accepted
    as a friendly amendment to the amendment:
    "That the following sentence be added to the first
    paragraph - 'ApplIáants from other high schools must
    achieve an acceptable score on the Scholastic Aptitude
    Test or other appropriate examination to be admitted'
    Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. AMENDMENT FAILED.
    An amendment was moved by A. Wotherspoon, seconded by N. Swartz,
    "That the following be added at the end of
    the first paragraph:-
    'Individual students from schools not granted a
    waiver under this regulation may apply to the
    Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board for admission.
    SUAB will consider the students grades or any other
    information the student wishes to submit.'
    Question was called:ox the amendment, and a vote taken. AMENDMENT FAILED.
    An amendment was moved by N. Swartz, seconded by A. Wotherspoon, that
    the first sentence of the motion be altered to read: "Thatfor admission
    from a Private High School,-Simon Fraser University ncrmally consider only
    those qualified applicants from Private High Schools granted Group Ii status
    under the Ministry of Education including those in other Provinces and
    Territories." The Chairman ruled the amendment out of order on the grounds
    that it substantially changed the intent of the motion.
    (Given the instructions to the Secretary to develop a wording there
    has been some editorial change to the title of the paper and change
    to provide the main motion as amended and restated).
    Title: Policy on B.C. Private High Schools - (including equivalents
    in other Canadian Provinces and Territories).
    MOTION: "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth in S.83-16 Revised
    'That for admission from a Private High School,
    Simon Fraser University consider only those qualified
    applicants from B.C.Private High Schools granted
    Group II status under the Ministry of Education guide-
    lines (including, equivalents in other Canadian Provinces
    and Territories). Where a school chooses to remain out-
    'side the Ministry of Education guidelines for Group II
    status, for reasons other than academic, the Senate
    Undergraduate Admissions Board may grant that school a
    waiver.'
    That this policy become effective for applicants in
    1984 and subsequently."
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    Question was called on the main motion as amended, and a vote taken.
    MAIN MOTION AS
    AMENDED CARRIED.

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    b) S.83-26 - Proposed English as a Second Language Remedial Program
    Moved by J. Munro, seconded by R. Stewart,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to
    the Board of Governors, as set forth in S.83-26,
    That an ESL Testing and Remedial Program be
    established in cooperation with Douglas College
    as per the attached SUAB proposal."
    A. McMillan, Director of Admissions, was in attendance as a resource
    person.
    J. Munro introduced the paper by referring to the pOlicy on International
    Students endorsed by Senate. in June 1982. The section of that paper dealing
    with admission criteria had .been referred back to SUAB for details on the
    implementation of the ESL Testing and Remedial Program. Proposals were received
    from Vancouver Community College University of B.C. and Douglas College.
    The Douglas College Program has been recommended because SUAB felt they
    would develop a test instrument and a program that was best suited to the
    needs of the international students at SFU and to the requirements that
    SFU has placed on them to read, write and speak English. The costs of
    the program will be borne completely by the students who are required to
    take it.
    A. McMillan pointed out that the general procedures for the implementation
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    for testing and placement of students that would be required to take remedial
    work were outlined in the paper with a number of details yet to be worked out
    with Douglas College. Provided the
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    proposal receives approval, those details will be
    identified and reported to Senate as deliberations with Douglas College
    proceed.
    A brief discussion followed in which concern was expressed about the
    University becoming involved with remedial education through a community
    college and the difficulties of developing an appropriate test instrument.
    Opinions were also expressed in support of the proposal pointing out that
    SFU would receive all the benefits of the remedial program without any cost
    to the University. .: It was hoped, however, that a review of the proposal would
    take place at some point in time to examine its affect on the University.
    In reply to an inquiry as to why the Provincial. English Placement Test
    was not being used, J. Munro stated that the EPT was not adequately designed
    for people for whom English is a Second Language and a more comprehensive
    and better suited test instrument was required for this particular population.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED.
    c) S.83-27 - Continuance, Withdrawal and Readmission Polic
    Moved by J. Munro, seconded by A. Wotherspoon,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board. of Governors, as set forth in S.83-27,
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    The attached revisions to the policy on Continuance,
    Withdrawal and Readmission. That these revisions
    become effective in the Fall Semester, 1983."
    A. McMillan, Director of Admissions, was in attendance as a resource
    person.

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    J.
    Munro introduced the paper by explaining that the intent of the proposal
    was to reduce the length of time that students with consistently poor levels
    of academic performance are allowed to continue at the University.
    A brief discussion followed.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED.
    ii)
    Senate Library Committee
    a) S.83-28 - Library Loans Policy
    Minor changes to the Library Loans Policy were received by Senate for -
    information.
    iii)
    Senate Committee on Academic Planning/Senate Committee on
    Agenda and Rules
    a) S.83-29 - Revised Procedures for Curriculum Approval
    Moved by
    J.
    Munro, seconded by A. Wotherspoon,
    "That Senate approve the system of curriculum
    approval outlined in J.M. Munro's memorandum
    of August 4, 1981, and that consequent revisions
    be made in the terms of reference of the Senate
    Committee on Academic Planning, the Senate
    Committee on Undergraduate Studies, and the
    Assessment Committee for New Graduate Programs"
    J.
    Munro indicated that, provided Senate endorsed all five
    motions, he wished to add the following to the proposal: (a) an
    implementation date of September 1, 1983 and, (b) that the procedures
    be tried on an experimental basis for two years, with review by SCAR
    in June
    J. Munro
    1985.further
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    explained that the proposal would save time,
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    reduce costs and put the decision making responsibility for changes
    in curriculum at the appropriate levels - Faculty and Department for
    minor changes, Senate for major changes, with major being defined as
    any change having a significant impact on more than one Faculty.
    Senate would receive, for information, a report on any actions taken
    by Faculties under this delegated authority.
    Speaking against the proposal, K. Rieckhoff pointed out that the
    current practice had enhanced the quality of the recommendations
    presented to Senate and felt that without appropriate checks at the
    various levels these standards would deteriorate. K. Rieckhoff also
    indicated his concern at leaving the responsibility for the introduction
    of new courses at the Departmental or Faculty level because individual
    Faculties/Departments would not have an overall view of the University
    and would therefore not be fully aware and cognizant of the impact
    their actions would have on other Departments or Faculties.
    In reply to an Inquiry as to what action could be taken if Senate
    strongly opposed a course which had already been approved, J. Munro
    indicated that Senate could retrieve its delegation at any time and
    on any particular issue.
    J. Cochran felt it would be useful if Senate were aware of 'the
    substance of an amendment which he wished to propose to Motion 2 and,
    with the permission of the Chairman to speak to Motion 2, he suggested
    that the second line be altered to read: 'However before that approval
    becomes final, these' proposals must be circulated to other Faculties
    and the material must be referred to SCUS if requested by any Faculty'.
    The intent of the imendment was simply to make sure that before a
    Faculty could give final approval, consultation with other Faculties
    would
    have to take place.
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    A. MacPherson inquired if Senate could delegate authority to a
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    Faculty curriculum committee since these committees were not set up as
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    committees of Senate and also wondered if the motion to delegate
    authority required a 2/3 majority vote. In reply, it was noted that
    motion 2 would require a 2/3 majority vote and that the legalities of
    delegated authority were not clearly defined but delegation to Faculties
    did exist at other universities and specifically at the University of
    Victoria.
    In reply to an inquiry as to the difference between Motion 1
    and Motion 2, J. Munro indicated that the second motion was the
    one which would in fact delegate authority and the intent of motion 1
    was to find out if Senate was interested enough to proceed.
    A suggestion to alter motion 1 as follows, was made by
    J. Munro and accepted. as a friendly amendment by the seconder.
    "That Senate approve in principle the system of
    curriculum approval outlined in J.M. Munro's memorandum
    of August 14, 1981, and that consequent revisions be
    made in the terms of reference of the Senate Committee
    on Academic Planning, the Senate Committee on Under-
    graduate Studies, and the Assessment Committee for New
    Graduate Programs"
    It was claimed that only at Senate level were students guaranteed
    the right to address curriculum matters and concerns were expressed
    that the proposed revision would reduce the input of not only the
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    students but also Convocation senators and Government appointees since their
    participation was not as great at the departmental or faculty level.
    In support of the motion, R. Brown indicated that since Faculties
    had to report any action taken, Senate would be fully aware if any
    particular Faculty began to exploit or lower their standards. It was
    also pointed out that there was cross-Faculty representation on the
    Faculty curriculum committees and that the matters proposed to be
    delegated to Faculties received little attention at either the Senate
    committees or at Senate. All major changes would still be reviewed
    by the Senate committees and come forward to Senate for approval.
    Question was called on the amended motion, and a vote taken.
    MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED.
    22 in favour, 20 opposed.
    Moved by J. Munro, seconded by N. Bhakthan,
    "That Senate delegate to Faculties authority for
    approval of new courses, changes in existing courses,
    and changes in program requirements. It is understood
    that these actions will be reported to other Faculties
    and that any major revision would be considered by the
    Senate Committee on 'Academic Planning and by Senate.
    (Major is defined to include any program or curriculum
    change having significant impact on more than one
    Faculty, as determined by the Chairman of the Committee.)
    • ' Current procedures involving prior consultation between
    departments on curriculum and program matters of mutual
    interest will continue."
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION FAILED.

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    iv) Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
    a)
    Paper S.83-30 - New Course ENGL 210-3 - Composition
    Moved by J. Webster,, seconded by S. Naki,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the
    Board of Governors, as set forth in S.83-30, the
    proposed new course ENGL 210-3 - Composition."
    Replying to a concern expressed that this course was remedial
    in nature and did not deal with University level material, R. Brown
    explained that the course, designed for professional writers in the
    English language,-was part of the Major-Minor program in English
    and was in no way a remedial course.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED.
    b)
    Paper S.83-31 - Deletion of courses not offered
    Moved by J. Munro, seconded by A. Wotherspoon,
    "That Senate approve and recommend approval to the Board
    of Governors that the following courses be deleted:-
    ECON
    308-5
    - Development of Economic Thought
    lIST
    226-3
    - Britain from the late Middle Ages
    HIND
    100-3
    - Introductory Hindi I
    HIND 101-3
    - Introductory Hindi II
    POL. 131-3
    - Introduction to Comparative Government
    POL.
    313-3
    - Political Analysis
    POL.
    422-3-
    The Canadian Legal System
    POL.
    436-3
    -Comparative Political Parties
    PSYC
    406-3
    - Validation Techniques
    S.A. 393-4
    - Oceania
    S.A.
    475-4
    - Specialized Regional Studies: West Africa
    S.A. 487-4
    - Specialized Regional Studies: Indians of the Eastern
    Woodlands and Plains
    S.A.
    489-4
    - Specialized Regional Studies: Peoples of the Canadian
    Sub-Arctic
    S.A.
    491-4
    - Specialized Regional Studies: Central and South America -
    Specific Regions I
    S.A.
    494-4 -
    Specialized Regional Studies: The Eskimo
    CRIM
    102-3
    - Crime: An Analytical Approach
    G.S.
    .403-5 -
    Myths, Fictions, Histories: telling the truth about
    experience II
    BISC
    300-3 -
    Physical and Chemical Aspects of the Environment
    K. Okuda advised that ECON 308-5 - Development of Economic Thought
    had already been deleted. It was therefore withdrawn as part of the
    motion.
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    Question was called, and a vote taken. ?
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    MOTION CARRIED.
    REPORTS OF FACULTIES
    There were no reports from Faculties.
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    OTHER BUSINESS
    The Chairman reported that it was anticipated that changes would be
    considered this year to the University Act. if the legislature was in
    session. It was therefore
    Moved by A. Wotherspoon, seconded by L. Hale,
    "That the President, in consultation with the Senate
    Committee on Agenda and Rules and the Senate
    Nominating
    Committee, appoint a committee of
    . five Senators to
    review the current Act and report back to Senate any
    proposed changes"
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
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    MOTION CARRIED.
    8. NOTICES OF MOTION
    a)
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    "That Senate direct the Registrar's Office to append to each
    student's transcript a listing of all university awards and
    scholarships that the student receives or is recommended for."
    (A. Wotherspoon)
    9. INFORMATION
    The next regular meeting of Senate is scheduled for Monday,
    March 7, 1983, at 7:00 p.m.
    The assembly recessed briefly at 9:10 p.m. prior to moving into Closed Session.
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