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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE 

MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY HELD 

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 

6, 1978, 3172

ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 

7:00 P.M.

OPEN SESSION 

Present: Birch, D. R., Acting Chairman 

Blaney, J. P. 

Brown, R. C. 

Carlson, R. L. 

Dawson, A. J. 

Dobb, T. C. 

Frydenlund, D. 

Garland, I., representing T. W. Calvert 

Geen, G. IL 

Gingerich, J. C. 

Harrison, J. ? Absent: 

Hauka, D. P. 

Hobson, R. F. 

Holweg, B. A. 

Hoyt, G. C. 

Jones, C.H.W. 

Keitner, A. A. 

Kemp, C. L. 

Luetzen, S. 

Nackauer, J.P.M. 

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In attendance: 

McMillan, D. B. 

Moffatt, D. 

Okuda, K. 

Overholt, M. J. 

Palmer, P. L. 

Pirifield, L. T. 

Reilly, N. R. 

Resnick, L. 

Rieckhoff, K. E. 

Thomas, L. E. 

Timberlake, A. J. 

Tuinman, J. J. 

Webster, J. N. 

Weinberg, H. 

Weinkam, J. J. 

Wells, E. J. 

Wheatley, J. 

Wideen, N. F., representing J.W.G. Ivany 

Young, J. 0. 

Arrott, A. S. 

Cote, P. T. 

Douglas-Crampton, D. 

Doherty, P. M. 

Hindle, L. 

Wagner, P. L. 

Walkley, J. 

Wyatt, J. D. 

McMillan, A. C. 

Sampson, G. P. 

Wilson, L. N. 

Evans, H. N., Secretary 

Nagel, H. D. 

Norsworthy, R., Recording Secretary 

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The Chairman welcomed student Senators B. A. Hoiweg and P. Palmer, 

the successful candidates in a recent by-election who replaced D. Gort 

and D. G. Home for balance terms of office from date of election to 

May 31, 1979. Detailed results of the by-election are as follows: 

Ballots Cast 

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679

Ballots Spoiled 

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34

Individual totals 

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Copes          

299

Holweg         

311

McCoy          

233

Palmer         

371

Two individuals receiving the highest numbers of votes 

and thereby declared elected: 

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B. A. HOLWEG 

P. L. PALMER 

1.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA 

The agenda was approved as circulated. 

2.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES 

The minutes of the Open Session of October 2, 1978 were approved as 

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BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES 

There was no business arising from the minutes. 

4.

REPORT OF CHAIRMAN 

The Chairman referred to a question raised by D. McMillan, "What has 

happened with the suggestion, made at a recent SCSAB meeting, that student 

representatives to Board of Governors and Senate not be eligible for 

university awards?" He explained that a proposal before that Committee 

that no student holding elected office be eligible had been further discussed 

particularly with regard to financial reimbursement, and the general agree- 

ment of the Senate Committee on Scholarships, Awards and Bursaries was that 

a student should not be awarded automatically, but should not be excluded. 

Senate was advised that the first meeting of the Search Committee for 

Vice-President, Academic has been held and it is. expected that wide circula- 

tion of a call for nominations and applications will commence immediately. 

Senate was reminded of the proposed special meeting of Senate on 

November 20, 1978 to consider the program for the Kelowna School of Resource 

Management. 

Paper 

Senate 

S.78-112-Annual 

received the 

Report 

University's 

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Financial Statements 

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as of March 31, 

1978, which had been submitted in accordance with Section 32 (2) of the 

Universities Act. 

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5. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES 

i) Senate Nominating Committee 

a) Paper S.78-113 - Elections to Senate Committees 

S. Luetzen was elected by acclamation to the Lay Senator position 

on the Senate Committee on Honorary Degrees, which had been vacated 

when L. Latham had resigned her Senate seat. 

It was noted that the Senate Nominating Committee had done an exten- 

sive job of trying to obtain from the few Lay members currently on Senate 

nominees willing to stand for election to the Senate Committee on Continu- 

ing Studies, Senate Committee on Scholarships, Awards and Bursaries, and 

the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies. The Nominating Committee 

intends to continue its efforts to fill the vacancies as existing vacancies 

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ii) Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board (Senate Committee on Academic 

Planning 

a) Paper S.78-114 - Proposal for New Admission Requirements for 

B.C. Secondar y 

School Graduates 

Moved by N. Reilly, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,                 

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I.

"That in addition to presenting Algebra 11 (which 

is currently a requirement for admission), B.C. 

Secondary School applicants be required to present 

a Science 11 (i.e. physical or life science) or a 

Language 11." 

II.

"That B.C. Secondary School students be required to 

present four academic 12-level subjects (including 

English 12) for admission." 

III. 

"That, normally, applicants must present an overall 

average of C+, or 2.5, on the four academic 12-level 

subjects (including English 12). Applicants whose 

overall average on the four academic 12-level subjects 

is between C and C+ will be considered for admission 

by the Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board." 

IV.

"That students be allowed to select their academic 

12-level subjects from the Arts and Science list as 

approved by the Ministry of Education." 

V.

"That the preceding admission requirements be effective 

commencing with June 1981 B.C. Secondary School 

Graduates. Admission of applicants graduating pre- 

viously will be based on the admission requirements in 

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Note: Applicants who, because of administrative diffi- 

culties in their schools, cannot present the 

courses as required, may be excused the specific 

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deficiency on petition by the Principal of the 

school concerned. 

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"For applicants graduating in 1980, that, normally, 

they must present an overall average of C+, or 2.5 on 

the three (3) academic 12-level subjects (including 

English 12)." 

Moved by J. Young, seconded by D. Hauka, 

"That the question be divided into its six 

parts." 

Question was called on the motion to divide, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO DIVIDE FAILED 

D. Birch provided background information in connection with the 

process which was followed to bring the recommendations of SUAB before 

Senate for formal consideration. He noted that when the proposal was 

first presented to SCAR for inclusion on the agenda for the September 11 

meeting of Senate it was decided that, because the recommendations could have 

significant implications for the university on overall enrolments and access 

to potential applicants, the proposal be transmitted to Senate for informal 

discussion before holding a joint meeting of SCAP and SUAB on September 13. 

Following consideration at a joint meeting of SUAB and SCAP, the recommenda- 

tions had been refined by SUAB, reviewed by SCAP and were now placed before 

Senate with the support of both Senate Committees. 

L. Wilson, designated Chairman of SUAB, and A. McMillan, Director of 

Admissions, were invited to join the assembly to respond to questions. E. 

Wells, who had been temporary Chairman of SUAB, was on Senate. 

Information was provided by D. Birch in connection with the nature of 

consultation and reaction to the proposal from the other universities and 

the school districts. Lengthy discussion followed in connection with the 

possible effects of the changes to potential students seeking admission. 

The proposed dates were questioned by J. Gingerich because of possible 

impact. J. Young pressed for a more open admission policy with intent to 

require non-successful students to withdraw. D. McMillan indicated disagree- 

ment with some of the statements of rationale; it was clarified these do not 

form part of the main motion. It was noted some change to the terms of 

reference of SUAB might be required. 

An amendment was moved by J. Young, seconded by J. Gingerich, 

"That the fourth word in Notion III (must) become 

'should' and that the next sentence read 'Students 

with a grade point average of between 2.0 and 2.5 

will be admitted to the university on the under- 

standing that they must in the first 30 hours main- 

tain an average of 2.0.'" 

J. Young was of the opinion that a student who has successfully com- 

pleted Grade 12 should have an opportunity for a university program. It 

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was clarified that the intent would be on the average of the first 

thirty hours. 

Both the Chairman and the Secretary pointed out the difficulties 

involved in attempting to formulate a revision on the floor of Senate 

as it would be impossible to consider all possible implications of 

the change. The Chairman ruled that if the amendment were to be 

approved it would be accepted as a statement of principle and Motion 

III would be withdrawn from further consideration at this rheeting. 

The effect of the approval of the amendment would be referral for proper 

wording and would constitute instruction to the Committee. 

K. Rieclthoff commented that in his experience it appeared that 

students worked only to achieve their goals and not to their full 

potential, and the proposed changes would encourage the students in 

secondary schools to elevate their standards to ease the transition - 

to the post-secondary level of education. D. McMillan felt that the 

proposal would affect other students whose level of performance was 

the consequence of more than just motivation. 

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT FAILED 

7 in favor 

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M. Nackauer noted that approval of the package would include 

approval of Western Civilization 12 ( 

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rejected by Senate as an accept- 

able subject for admission in March 1977) and A. McMillan explained 

that following a review by three departments in the Faculty of Arts 

and the FACC there had been a positive recommendation that the particular 

course be included in the list of 12-level academic subjects from the 

Arts and Science list. A. McMillan confirmed approval of the motion 

before Senate would constitute approval of Western Civilization 12 as 

a course acceptable for admission purposes. 

Question was called on Motions I through VI, and a vote taken. 

MOTIONS I THROUGH VI 

CARRIED 

29 in favor 

5 opposed 

ill) Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies 

a) Paper S.78-115 - Change in Arts Requirements for Mathematics 

Minor 

Moved by N. Reilly, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the 

Board of Governors, as set forth in S.78-115, the 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

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change to 

p

ermit a student who wishes to obtain a 

Bachelor of Arts Degree through the Faculty of Arts. 

with a Minor in Mathematics to count Mathematics 

courses as Arts courses." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

b) Paper S.78-116 - Requirements for a Minor - Minimum Upper 

Division SFU Work Required 

Moved by N. Reilly, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the 

Board of Governors the following requirements for 

a specific Minor on a Degree program: 

to qualify for a specific Minor on a degree program 

at least 7 semester hours of upper divison credit 

used toward the Minor must have been completed 

through Simon Fraser University courses." 

c)

Paper S.78-117 - New Course Proposal - Faculty of Education 

- EDUC 326-3 - Classroom Management and Discipline 

Moved by N. Reilly, seconded by S. Dawson, 

"That Senate approve and recommend approval to 

the Board of Governors, as set forth in S.78-117, 

the new course EDUC 326-3 - Classroom Management 

and Discipline." 

Note: Subject to the approval by Senate and the Board of this course, 

the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies has approved the 

waiver of the time lag requirement in order that this course be 

offered in the Summer semester 1979-2. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

d)

2erS.78-l18 - Proposed Curriculum Revisions in Biological 

Sciences 

Moved by N. Reilly, seconded by L. Kemp; 

"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the 

Board of Governors, as set forth in S., 78-118, the 

Proposed revisions in Biological Sciences including 

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a) BISC 405-3 - Cell Biology, prerequisite change 

b)

Change to 'Note' concerning students majoring in 

the Biological Sciences 

c)

BISC 306-3 - Invertebrate Biology, change in 

description and prerequisite 

d)

BISC 418-3 - Advanced Invertebrate Biology, change 

in description and prerequisite 

e)

BISC 310-3 - The Plants and Animals of British 

Columbia, and BISC 404-3 - Plant Ecology - require- 

ments for a field trip." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

e) Paper S.78-119 - Prerequisite Change for CHEM 458-3 

Moved by N. Reilly, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Senate approve and recommend approval to the 

Board of Governors, as set forth in S.78-119, the 

change in prerequisite for CHEM 458-3." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

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iv) Senate Graduate Studies Committee 

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MOTION CARRIED 

a) Paper S.78-120 - New Course Proposals - EDUC824-5, 825-5 

Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Reickhoff, 

"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.78-120, 

the new course proposals for: 

EDUC 824-5 - Seminar in English as a Second Language 

EDUC 825-5 - Curriculum and Instruction in English 

as a Second Language, 

and recommend approval to the Board of Governors." 

Professor G. P. Sampson, resource person from the Faculty of 

Education, was in attendance to respond to questions. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

NOTION CARRIED 

6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES 

i) Faculty of Arts 

a) Paper S.78-121 - Special Topics Courses - 78-2, 78-3 

The Chairman noted that the paper was before Senate for information. 

K. Okuda asked that future reports include details of enrolments, and the 

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Deans were requested to note the recuest. L. Thomas suggested that the 

Library would be interested in receiving comments relating to its collec- 

tions support for the research component of Special Topics courses. 

7.

OTHER BUSINESS 

There was no other business. 

8.

NOTICES OF MOTION 

i)

Paper S.78-122 - Proposal for Amendment of the Selection Procedures 

for Faculty Representatives for the Search Committee for the Academic 

Vice-President 

Moved by R. Brown, seconded by J. Gingerich, 

"That Senate approve and recommend to the Board of 

Governors that the wording of paragraph (d) of 

S.78-79 - Search Committee for a Vice-President, 

Academic be changed 

from: '(d) four faculty members elected by and 

from faculty members (one from each 

to:

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'(d) four faculty members, one elected by 

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Faculty)';from 

each 

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Faculty.'" 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

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MOTION CARRIED 

ii)

Paper S.78-123 - Proposal for Amendment of the Selection Procedures 

for Faculty Representatives for the Search Committee for the Dean 

of Graduate Studies 

Moved by R. Brown, seconded by E. Wells, 

"That Senate approve and recommend to the Board of 

Governors that the wording of Motion 2 (Dean's 

Search Committee (Graduate Studies)) of.78-8Oe 

changed 

from: '...elected by faculty members jointly, 

with one from each Faculty'; 

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'...one elected by and from each Faculty.'" 

L. Resnick noted that the rationale was not necessarily correct. 

K. Rieckhoff supported the proposal for amendment of the selection 

search procedures for senior academic administrators must have an under- 

procedures, stating that individuals selected to participate in the 

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standing of the interests of their own Faculty together with knowledge 

of the university as a whole, but election should be undertaken by the 

Faculty colleagues of the candidates. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

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9. INFORMATION ? 

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The Chairman drew attention to the date for the next regular meeting 

of Senate - Monday, December 4, 1978, and again reminded Senators that a 

special meeting was proposed for Monday, November 20, 1978 to consider 

the program for the Kelowna School of Resource Management. 

The assembly recessed briefly at 8:29 p.m. prior to moving into 

Closed Session. 

H. M. Evans 

Secretary. 