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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE 

MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SENATE OF 

SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY HELD 

MONDAY, APRIL 4, 1977, 3172 ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 7:00 P.M. 

OPEN SESSION 

Present: 

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Jewett, P., Chairman     

Absent: 

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Barlow, J. S. 

Diamond, J. 

Arrott, A. 

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Doherty, P. M. 

Baird, D. A.              

Ellis, J. 

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Birch, D. R.              

Erickson, D. A. 

Bide, D. E.             

Hindle, L. 

Blaney, J. P.              

Hindley, M. P. 

Brown, R. C.               

Knight, D. E. 

Buitenhuis, P.             

Mackauer, J.P.M. 

Calvert, T. W.             

Martel, A. G. 

Carlson, R. L.             

Webster, J. M. 

Catalano, J. A. 

Clayman, B. P., representing J. Wheatley 

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Cunningham, A. B. 

D'Auria, J. N. 

Davison, A. J. 

Dawson, A. J. 

Debo, R. K. 

Emery, B. E. 

Fattah, E. A. 

Finlayson, T. 

Glas, T. 

Hutchinson, J. F. 

Ironside, R. A. 

Johl, R. 

Jones, C.H.W. 

Kazepides, A. 

Latham, L. 

McGuire, G. T. 

Munro, J. M. 

Okuda, K. 

Overholt, M. J. 

Severy, L. 

Sterling, T. D. 

Thomas, S. 

Walker, R. E. 

Wemyss, I. D. 

Wilson, B. G. 

In attendance: A. C. McMillan 

Evans, H. M., Secretary 

Nagel, H. D. 

Norsworthy, R., Recording Secretary 

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1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 

The agenda was approved as distributed. 

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 

Prior to approving the minutes of the Open Session of March 7, 

1977, the following adjustments were made: 

Page 8, paragraph 3. 

"P. Buitenhuis remarked that passing the motion involved a 

commitment as a large number of instructors might be required to 

teach English as a second language, and he was concerned that adequate 

financial support would not be available within the budget constraints." 

Page 10, paragraph 2. 

"J. Munro explained that the motion was designed to eliminate 

referenda on minor matters which are not of general interest." 

Page 12, paragraph 3. 

"She stated that she felt part of the motion was out of order as 

the matter was under the jurisdiction of the Board of Governors and the 

most Senate could do was to express its concern of the effect of a 

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tuition fee increase, not take opposition in principle." 

3.

BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES 

There was no business arising from the minutes. 

4.

REPORT OF CHAIRMAN 

The Chairman stated that it was her intention for the May 9, 1977 

meeting of Senate to invite newly elected Senators, who would be com- 

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terms of office on June 1, to dinner and the Open Session. 

of Senate and a reception in the President's residence thereafter. It 

was agreed that the Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules would use its 

discretion to determine whether it would be advisable to reverse the 

order of sessions to facilitate consideration of confidential matters 

in Closed Session at 4:00 p.m. rather than following the Open Session. 

In response to a question posed by a Senator, the Chairman stated 

that the Senate Committee on Academic Planning had met only once this 

semester but was awaiting receipt of several matters which were under 

consideration in other areas. It was anticipated that the Committee 

would be fully active in the very near future. 

The Vice-President, Academic outlined developments since Senate 

had approved in principle involvement in the planning of post-secondary 

education for the Interior. As a result of discussions with the 

Universities Council and the Department of Education, modest extensions 

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to course offerings in Kelowna were proposed plus the addition of two 

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or three more off-campus centres for PDP. Funding, in the amount of 

$120,000, had .been received and concentration would be in planning for 

a system of Arts and Science programs. He added that UBC had received 

$50,000 for law, medicine and perhaps commerce programs, while U-Vic 

had $30,000 which would be directed towards interests on Vancouver 

Island and rural communities. B. Wilson deferred his further comments 

to the Closed. Session of Senate. 

K. Okuda, Chairman of the Senate Committee on University Budget, 

was asked to apprise Senate of a recommendation of his Committee in 

connection with possible tuition fee increases. He stated that SCUB 

supports the President's recommendation for an undergraduate and graduate 

fee increase of approximately 25% effective September 1, 1977 as an 

emergency recommendation for 1977 and that the entire motion read as 

follows: 

"The Committee supports the President's recommendation to the 

Board of Governors for an undergraduate and graduate tuition 

fee increase of approximately 25 per cent effective September .1, 

1977. We recognize this as an emergency measure for 1977/78 

but do not accept that increases in student tuition should be 

viewed in the future as a means of meeting shortfalls in funding 

requirements. Further, we request that this recommendation be 

conveyed to the Universities Council and appropriate Provincial 

Government representatives." 

He added that another motion of the Committee would be of interest 

to Senate: 

"That the President be encouraged to facilitate and co- 

ordinate a very active program of conveying to the communities 

which the University serves the effects of the serious deficits 

facing the University in this and subsequent years." 

The Chairman of SCUB noted that for the immediately foreseeable 

future it appeared that the university would face financial constraints 

and further increases in tuition fees could not be ruled out. 

5. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES 

1) Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules 

a) Paper S.77-33 - Provision for Questions at Senate 

The Chairman noted that the second page of Paper S.77-33 outlined 

the procedures to accommodate an informal question period, and it was 

determined that responses to questions would be given in either the 

Open or Closed Session at the discretion of the Chair. The procedures 

will be followed. 

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R. Ironside asked that it be recorded that Paper S.77-33 surpassed 

appropriately the intent of his original request for the establishment 

of a question period. 

ii) Senate Nominating Committee 

a) Paper S.77-34 - Senate Elections 

The Secretary advised that R. Johi had declined nomination to the 

Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, and G. T. McGuire was declared 

elected to replace B. L. MacDonald as student Senator alternate for no 

specified term of office. 

Ballots were distributed for the election of one student Senator to 

the Senate Undergraduate. Admissions Board to replace B. L. MacDonald for 

balance term of office from date of election to September 30, 1977. Re- 

suits follow: 

Ballots Cast: 

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Ballots Spoiled: 

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Bitle 15 

Glas ? 

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T. Glas was declared elected. 

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iii) Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies 

a) Paper S.77-35 - Change of Vector: ENGL 010-3 

Moved by D. Birch, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That Senate approve the .changes for ENGL 010-3, 

as set forth in Paper S.77-35." 

Note: Technically the change in vector may be approved at the depart- 

mental level, however, because ENGL 010-3 is a high-enrolment 

service course the proposed change has been forwarded for Senate 

consideration. Approval will be permissive rather than prescrip- 

tive and reorganization of the course may be contingent on the 

limitation of enrolment or an increase in resources. The proposed 

change from a lecture/tutorial format to a tutorial only format 

has been proposed (and was considered by SCUS) primarily on its 

educational merits. 

D. Birch explained that the larger question of the organization and 

cost implication pertaining to writing and composition in English would 

be considered by the Senate Committee on Academic Planning at its next 

meeting and any implementation would be dependent on analysis of the cost 

implications and appropriate allocations. R. Brown was of the opinion 

that it was inappropriate for the proposal to be considered by SCAP as it 

was his understanding that if funds are not found the Department of English 

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would continue the offering under the current vector arrangement. J. Munro 

ascertained that the vector change could be determined by the department 

for a given semester on the basis of available funds. 

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Moved byR. Walker, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That Paper S.77-35 be referred to the Senate 

Committee on Academic Planning." 

R. Brown was of the opinion that the matter should not go to SCAP 

but would be an administrative decision on funds.. The vector appro- 

priately had been at SCUS. B. Wilson believed Senate must not look at 

budget each time it looks at acourse and that the Senate concern should 

be on the academic questions. 

R. Walker stated that Senate could not consider the proposal on its 

educational merits as it was part of a larger plan which includes English 

composition as a whole Involving budgetary and space requirements. He 

was supported by a number of speakers. 

Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO REFER CARRIED 

20 in favor 

b) Paper S.77-36 - New Course Proposal and Program Changes: 

Department of Modern Languages - Linguistics 

Moved by D. Birch, seconded by A. Kazepides, 

"That the changes to LING 221-3, the new course 

LING 222-3, changes to Major and Minor, change 

in prerequisites for LING 404-3 and 405-3, as 

set forth in Paper S.77-36, be approved and recom- 

mended to the Board of Governors for approval." 

Note: Should, the new course, LING 222-3, be approved, SCUS has 

approved a waiver of the two semester time lag requirements 

In order that it be offered in the Fall semester 1977. 

G. McGuire asked that it be recorded in the minutes that LING 222 

is a necessity to facilitate the requirements of students in the Linguis- 

tics Division. S. Thomas confirmed that library resources were adequate 

for Linguistics offerings. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

c) Paper S.77-37 - Change in Program Regulations - Political 

Science 

Moved by D. Birch, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That the changes in Upper Division course require- 

ments, change for Minor in Political Science, change 

in Major in Political Science, and changes In pre- 

requisites for Upper Division courses, as set forth 

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in S.77-37, be approved and recommended to the Board 

of Governors for approval." 

Note: The proposed changes are designed to bring the regulations of 

the Political Science program in line with the general Faculty 

of Arts regulations. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

iv) Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board 

a) Paper S.77-38 - British Columbia College-University Credit 

Transfer Guidelines 

Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That Senate approve in principle the report on 

transfer credit guidelines, as set forth in 5.77-38, 

together with the attached recommendations and 

comments (in italics) that are necessary for clarifi- 

cation of current policies at Simon Fraser University 

and are considered to be appropriate to the document." 

A. McMillan, Director of Admissions and Secretary of the Senate 

Undergraduate Admissions Board, was seated to respond to questions. 

A. Kazepides asked for an explanation of "in principle" approval. 

He was informed that because of the nature in which the proposal came 

to the university and ultimately to SUAB, the post-secondary coordinating 

committee had requested that each of the fourteen colleges and three 

universities respond to the guidelines on the understanding that once 

the responses had been received they would be consolidated for a final 

statement on transfer guidelines. J. Munro referred to Guideline 1, 

which had undergone a strengthening evolution from the original sub- 

mission, and A. McMillan said that the strengthening was a result of 

sixteen responses from chairmen of undergraduate curriculum committees,. 

faculties and departments which had been considered by SUAB. 

Amendment was moved by A. Kazepides, seconded by I. Wemyss, 

"That the words 'in principle' be deleted 

from the motion." 

A. Kazepides felt the term was redundant and inappropriate. The 

Secretary of Senate wished to ensure that deletion would not affect 

understanding that the exact wording of the final statement on guide- 

lines would be formulated on the basis of the overall considerations, 

and there was not opposition. 

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. 

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AMENDMENT CARRIED 

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It was confirmed that if the document underwent significant change

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in detail it would be brought back to Senate for confluent.

R. Carlson objected to the recommendation in Guideline I for the

exclusion of screening of names and qualifications of instructors.

An amendment was moved by J. Munro, seconded by R. Carlson,

"That the third recommendation in Guideline I,,

page 3, be deleted."

J. Munro expressed the opinion that an opportunity should be avail-

able to examine qualifications of instructors of courses accepted for

transfer credit. A number of members spoke in opposition.

Following considerable debate, question was called, and a vote

taken.

AMENDMENT FAILED

An amendment on the same section was moved by R. Carlson, seconded

by A. Cunningham,

"That the words 'with the exception of review at

the time a new program is established,' be added

to Recommendation. 3 of Guideline I, page 3."

R. Carlson stated that the amendment reflected the agreement of the

articulation committee of his group.

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.

AMENDMENT CARRIED

20 in favor

15 opposed

In response to a question from R. Carlson, A. McMillan confirmed

that no changes to existing responsibilities and current procedures are

intended for SFU and the Secretary drew attention to the footnote on

the blue motion sheet.

Attention was drawn to Guideline 3, and an amendment was moved by

J. D'Auria, seconded by B. Wilson, which after considerable discussion

was altered to

"That the recommendation in Guideline 3, page 3,

read 'No comment,' and that the first comment on

page 2 following Preamble 3 be deleted."

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.

AMENDMENT CARRIED

28 in favor

1 opposed

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An amendment was moved by J. Hutchinson, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That the second comment on the recommendation 

related to Guideline 8, page 5, be deleted." 

J. Hutchinson stated that the deletion was necessary if Senate's 

recommendations were to be taken seriously. 

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT CARRIED 

An amendment was moved by R. Carlson, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That 'No comment' replace the recommendation following Preamble 2." 

Following discussion it was agreed that the amendment would be, 

"That the recommendation following Preamble 2 

be deleted." 

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT CARRIED 

Question was called on the motion as amended, and a vote taken. 

MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED 

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6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES 

There were no reports from faculties. 

7. OTHER BUSINESS 

There was no other business. 

8.

NOTICES OF MOTION 

1) Paper S.77-39 - Student Tuition Fees (T. Glas) 

Moved by T. Glas, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That Senate recommend to the Board of Governors 

that there be no change in student tuition fees 

for 1977-78. Further, be it moved that this 

motion be placed before the Board of Governors 

at its meeting of April 5, 1977." 

T. Glas reiterated his opposition to fee increases on the basis 

of the effect on the academic future of many students who are faced 

with reductions In financial aid and little possibility of employment, 

and he urged that the matter be discussed in depth by the academic 

government of the institution. T. Arrott added that there appeared 

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to be a political decision which required consideration by the people 

of the province. J. D'Auria felt insufficient information had been 

provided to permit Senate to vote rationally. R. Walker commented 

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that, although faculty was the heart of the university in guiding its 

programs, students make the university by just being there, and he 

suggested the question should be debated in an open forum instead of 

using students to offset a deficit budget. 

An amendment proposed by T. Arrott, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That the words, 'that there be no change ? 

be struck, and the words, 

'be increased by the AIB auideline of 8%' added, following the word 

'fees," was accepted by the Chair, T. Arrott claiming the amendment 

was intended to maintain the status quo of student fees in terms of 

real dollars. R. Brown challenged the ruling of the Chair, on the 

basis that the amendment was contrary to the intent of the original 

motion, and a vote was taken. The ruling .of the Chair was not sus- 

tained, and the amendment was declared out of order. 

The debate which continued at length revealed Information that the 

budgetary deficit of $1,700,000 for the current year could be reduced 

by $800,000 to $900,000 by cutting faculty and staff appointments and 

library allocations without seriously affecting the present services, 

but without the proposed tuition fee increase $700,000 in proposed 

expenditures would require elimination. The Chairman noted that 

projected salary adjustments for faculty and support staff are well 

below the AIB guidelines. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

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MOTION FAILED 

9 in favor 

21 opposed 

L. Severy, J. D'Auria, S. Dawson, T. Sterling, R. Walker, A. Davison 

and A. Kazepides asked that their abstaining votes be recorded. 

Moved by R. Walker, seconded by L. Severy, 

"That Senate approve the motion that SCUB 

recommended to the President regarding 

tuition fees for this year." 

In compliance with a request from J. Munro, the Chairman read the 

SCUB motion: 

"The Senate Committee on University Budget supports 

the President's recommendation to the Board of 

Governors for an undergraduate and graduate tuition 

fee increase of approximately 25 per cent effective 

September 1, 1977. We recognize this as an emergency 

measure for 1977/78 but do not accept that increases 

in student tuition should be viewed in the future 

as a means of meeting shortfalls in funding require- 

ments. Further, we request that this recommendation 

be conveyed to the Universities Council and appropriate 

Provincial Government representatives." 

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R. Walker noted that the motion indicates disapproval of continu- 

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ing fee increases in the future and this opposition is supported by 

the students. 

An amendment proposed by B. Emery to delete all reference to 

SCUB's support was not accepted by the Chair. 

T. Arrott contended that an Increase in tuition fees was not 

forced by economic considerations but encouraged by an example set 

by Eastern universities. R. Debo suggested that it would be in order 

to take up an earlier suggestion by G. McGuire that a committee be 

struck to formulate a strong recommendation representing the opinion 

of the assembly on the question. 

Question was called on the motion to approve the SCUB motion, 

and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

21 in favor 

11 opposed 

B. Emery and J. Catalano asked that their votes in opposition 

be recorded. 

T. Glas urged that a committee be struck to prepare a suitable 

motion for consideration by Senate which would express the consensus 

of the assembly. As there was no objection, a recess was called at 

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9:32 p.m. and the Vice-President, Academic and a number of student 

Senators retired to draft a motion for presentation. 

The meeting was re-convened at 9:40 p.m. 

Moved by I. Wemyss, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That Senate deplore the actions of the 

Government of British Columbia in not 

meeting the real financial needs of the 

universities as outlined and presented 

by the Universities Council last October, 

with resulting serious implications for 

accessibility to university and for the 

maintenance of academic standards." 

An amendment was moved by T. Arrott, seconded by J. Catalano, 

"That Senate disapprove of the ad hoc 

manipulation of student fees without full 

consideration by the provincial government 

of the criteria for the establishment of a 

rational basis for fixing the relative 

sharing of the burden between the student 

and the society, both of which benefit 

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from his education." 

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT FAILED 

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Question was called on the main motion, and a vote taken. 

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MAIN MOTION CARRIED 

1 abstention 

9. INFORMATION 

It was noted that the next meeting of Senate is scheduled for 

Monday, May 9, 1977, at 7:00 p.m., with a decision yet to be deterine, 

on the basis of agenda items, for reordering of Sessions and convening 

at 4:00 p.m. 

The Open Session was declared adjourned at 9:49 p.m. and the 

assembly moved immdiately into Closed Session. 

H. M. Evans 

Secretary 