DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY HELD
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 8,
1976, 3172
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ADMINISTRATION BUILDING,
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7:00
P.M.
OPEN SESSION
Present:
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Jeett, P., Chairman
Absent: ?
Barlow,
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J.
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S.
Arrott, A.
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S.
Cunningham, A.
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B.
Birch, D. R.
Cunningham, F.
Bide, D. E.
Diamond, J.
Blaney, J.
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P.
Doherty, ?
P. M.
Brown, R. ?
C.
Fattah, ?
E. A.
Buitenhuis, P.
Hall, N.B. ?
(resigned)
Calvert, T. W.
Hindle, L.
Carlson, R.
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L.
Johi, ?
R.
Catalano, J. A.
Martel, A. ?
C.
Curzon, A. ?
E.
McClaren ?
M.
Darison, A. J.
Morin,
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(resigned)
Dawson, A. ?
J.
Schiffer, R.
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(resigned)
De1o, ?
R.
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K.
Walkley, J.
Dobb, T.
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C., representing D.
Baird ?
Wilson,
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B.
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C.
Ellis, ?
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F.
Emery, B. ?
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In attendance:
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Bartlett
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B. ?
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Erickson, D. A.
Bouton,
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C.
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P.
Fiñlayson, T.
Hammerly, H. H.
Hindley, M. P.
Powell, R.
Huchinson, J. F.
Ironside, R. A.
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Jones,
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C.H.W.
Knight, D.
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E.
Latham, L.
MacDonald, B.
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L.
Mackauer, J.P.M.
Munro, J. M.
Okuda, K.
Overholt, M. ?
J.
Severy, L.
Sterling, ?
T. D.
Thomas, ?
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Walker, R.
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Webster, J. M.
Wemyss, ?
I. D.
Wheatley, J.
Evans, H. M., Secretary
Nagel, H. D.
Dahabieh, S., Recording Secretary
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1.
APPROVAL OF; AGENDA
The agenda was approved as circulated.
2.
APPROVAL OF: MINUTES
The minutes of the Open Session of October 4, 1976 were aproved
as distributed.
3.
BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
It was noted that a further election to SUAB would be undertaken
and it was proposed to do this under Item 5 of the agenda when the
other electLons were being undertaken.
4.
REPORT OF CHAIRMAN
There was no report from the Chairman other than to indic
1 ate a
meeting of enate likely would be held on November 29, 1976 or Interior
programmingi.
K. Okuda enquired concerning a communication from I. McTa
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Cowan, Chairman of the Post Secondary Coordinating Committee concerning
transfer crdit and the Chairman indicated data would be obtaned from
the Academic Vice-President.
5.
REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
i) Paper S.76-144 - SUAB Election and Paper S.76-145 - Senate Nominati
Committee
The elections required were conducted, including the SUAB election
noted undei Item 3 of the agenda.
Senate Unddrgraduate Admissions Board (SUAB)
One Senator-at-large to replace R. K. Debo for a two yea term of
office to September 30, 1978. Two student Senators and one student
Senator alternate to replace R. A. Ironside, B. E. Emery and D. E. Bitle
for one year terms of office to September 30, 1977.
Candidates
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Votes Recorded
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Bitle
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R. K. Debo
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B. E. Emery
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R. A. Ironside
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C.H.W. Jones
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B. L. MacDonald
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R. E. Walker
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• Individual recording the highest number of votes
and thereby declared elected as Senator-at-large
for a two year term of office to September
30,
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R. A. I.RONSIDE
Individuals (students) receiving the next higher
number of votes and thereby declared elected as
the regular student members for one year terms
of office to September 30, 1977:
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R. E.WALKER
B. L. MacDONALD
Individual (student) receiving the next higher
number of votes and thereby declared elected as
the alternate student member for a one year term
of office to September 30, 1977:
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B. E. EMERY
Senate Committee on Academic Planning (SCAP)/Senate Committee on
University Budget (SCUB)
One student Senator to fill the vacancy created by the rsignation
of studentSenator R. Schiffer from Senate and the various committees
of which he was a member. Term of office to be for the remainder of
term of office from date of election to September
30,
1977.
Candidates
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Votes Recoried
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R. A. Ironside ?
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R. E. Walker
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Individual receiving the highest number of votes
and thereby declared elected for balance term of
office to September
30,
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R. E. WALKER
Senate Committee on Continuing Studies (SCCS)
One faculty Senator to fill the vacancy created by the resignation
of faculty Senator F. Cunningham from this Committee. Term of office
to be for the remainder of term of office from date of electijon to
September
30,
1977.
Declared elected by acclamation:
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C.H.W. JONES
Senate Committee on Honorary Degrees (SC}ID)
One lay member of Senate to fill the vacancy created bythe resig-
nation of S. Morin from Senate and from this Committee. There is no
specified term of office.
Declared elected by acclamation:
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L. LATT-IAN
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ii)
Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
a) Paper S.76-146 - Department of Modern Languages, New Course
Proposals - ITAL 100-3, ITAL 101-3, LING 300-3
C. P. Bouton was in attendance to answer questions.
Moved by D. Birch, seconded by R. Brown,
That Senate approve, and recommend approval
by the Board of Governors, ITAL 100-3 - Intro-
ductory Italian I, and ITAL 101-3 - Introductory
Italian II, as set forth in Paper S.76-146, as
experimental courses for offering one time only."
A number of questions were raised pertaining to costing, to the
less frequert offering of some courses to permit these two exprimental
courses to be offered, to potential demand. C. Bouton indicatd there
had been strong requests from the Italian community to provide courses.
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by D. Birch, seconded by R. Brown,
"That Senate approve, and recommend approval
by the Board of Governors, LING 300-3 - Languages
of the World: An Introduction to Typology, as
set forth in Paper S.76-146."
MOTION CARRIED
iii)
Senate Graduate Studies Committee
a) Piper S.76-147 - Department of Modern Languages - M.A. -
Teachin g
of French
C. P. Bouton, B. E. Bartlett and H. M. Hammerly were in attendance
to answer questions.
Moved by J. Wheatley, and duly seconded,
"That the M.A. - Teaching of French program be
continued."
R. Ironside noted that this is a professional program andfdiffers
from an academic program in that it is directed to improving teaching
rather than for knowledge for its own sake. Emphasis for assessment
should be on the amount of improvement in teaching. He was not satis-
fied that there was sufficient impartiality in the program assssment
process and believed that there might have been profitable involvement
by the provincial Department of Education, by the B.C. Association of
Teachers of Modern Languages, and by our Faculty of Education. He
noted that liaison had now commenced with the B.C.A.T.M.L., wa8 hopeful
that this would prove productive, and would vote to support the motion.
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J. Wheatley indicated the Faculty of Education was repreented
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on the program assessment committee and that such student
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b
onse
as
was available to the program assessment was strongly supportive.
H. Hammerly commented that the liaison committee was expected to
consist of one B.C.A.T.M.L. executive member, one teacher experienced
in the program, one member from the Faculty of Education - all meeting
with the M.A. - Teaching of French Committee. He observed that there
had not been a joint appointment with the Faculty of Education. D.
Birch indicated approval for such had been authorized but seach for
a suitable individual had been unsuccessful.
In response to enquiry, J. Wheatley indicated that there was
concern on enrolments, but that the motion before Senate did pot
suggest any time limitations on the program. Other bodies would take
cognizanceof any financial constraints.
Question was called on the motion, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARR{ED.
6.
REPORTS OF' FACULTIES
There were no reports from faculties.
7.
OTHER BUSINESS
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i) Paper s.76-148 - Canadian Educational Policy (R. A. Ironside,
I. DL Wemyss)
Moved: by R. Ironside, seconded by I. Wemyss,
'That the Simon Fraser University Senate call
upon the federal government, in consultation
with the provincial governments, to establish
a national inquiry into current issues, long-
term direction and goals, and financing of
post-secondary education in Canada. This
inquiry to invite public submissions on the
following areas of concern:
1.
Issues relating to accessibility to post-
secondary education in Canada.
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The quality, scope and function of post-
secondary education.
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The degree of public financial commit-
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ment to post-secondary education."
R. Powell, president of the Student Society and closely involved
in the National Student Day proposals, was in attendance to respond to
questions. L. Severy questioned whether item 3 should be included and
the place bf vocational education in the intent. ,
R. Powell felt that it
was correctly placed but that action was needed to make clear to the
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public the place of universities.. He believed a wholly comprehensive
plan should be developed and certainly not by students alone.
Item 3 was taken to mean, "The degree of public financialcommit-
ment there should be to post-secondary education.
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J. Ellis noted that the O.C.E.D. study was generally congatulatory
and enquired
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the recommended items arose. R. Powell concurred that
this was correct in the past but there was fear this might notcontinue
as there is no clear policy and politics may predominate with a scarce
money resource.
A. Arrott questioned the timing at which the public shou1I be
challenged; R. Powell felt time to be running out.
P. Jewett observed there had been little success since theMassey
Commission on a country-wide interest forum on education althoigh AUCC has
tried to get a three-way forum of federal, provincial, AUCC discussions
but with objections from the provinces.
It was noted that AUCC and CAUT and NUS wished to see current regula-
tions retained when the Fiscal Arrangements Act would normally terminate
in March 1977, whilst negotiations continue - but with the lifting of the
15% ceiling on annual increases.
Question was called on the main motion.
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MOTION CARRIED
23 in favor,
4 opposed
Moved by R. Ironside, seconded by I. Wemyss,
"That this proposed national inquiry be conducted
by a Board of Inquiry consisting of: federal and
provincial government representatives; representa-
tion of the academic community including students
and faculty selected by their representative
national bodies; labour, business; and community
representatives."
There was considerable discussion on the wording and intent of
this item. Some members felt there must be a broadly-representative
base; others that such a large group would be ineffective and;
innocuous; others that a Royal Commission like the Massey Comiflission
would be appropriate; some that there could not be an appropriate body
as proposed.
Amendment was moved by J. Ellis, seconded by J. Munro,
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"That 'Board' replace 'Commission' and that all
words after 'of Inquiry' be deleted."
Vote was taken on the amendment.
AMENDMENT FAILED
Amendmnt was moved by R. Debo, seconded by A. Arrott,
"That the words 'Board of Inquiry consisting
of federal and' be replaced by the words
'Federal Royal Commission chosen after con-
sultation with.'"
Vote was then undertaken on the amendment.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
18 in favor
13 opposed
Question was then called on the main motion as amended.
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED
FAILED
13 in favor
15 opposed
The earlier proposed Motion 3 was then withdrawn.
8.
NOTICES OF MOTION
There were no notices of motion.
9.
INFORMATION,
The Chairman drew attention to the information concerning the
next regular meeting in December, the intent to hold a special
meeting on November 29, 1976 and that dinner would be served ii
advance of the special meeting.
A brief recess was declared at 8:35 p.m. before entering into
Closed Session. ?
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H. M. Evans
Secretary
