DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
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    MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY HELD
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    MONDAY. MAY 5. 1975, 3172 ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 7:30 P.M.
    OPEN SESSION
    Present: ?
    Jewett, P.
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    Chairman
    Aronoff, S.
    Baird, D. A.
    Banister, E. W.
    Beirne, B. P.
    Birch, D. R.
    Blaney, J. P.
    Brown, R. C.
    Burkle, E.
    Caple, K. P.
    D'Auria, J. N.
    Dawson, A. J.
    Ellis, J. F.
    Emmott, A. H.
    Funt, B. L.
    Hindle, L.
    Ingram Ellis, E. R.
    Morin, S. R.
    Rieckhoff, K. E.
    Smith, W.A.S.
    Sterling, T. D.
    Wheatley, J.
    Wideen, M. F.
    Wilson, B. G.
    Evans, H. M.
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    Secretary
    Nagel, H. D.
    Absent:
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    Andrews, I. R.
    Cook, G. L.
    Copes, P.
    Cote, P. T.
    Doherty, P. M.
    Eliot Hurst, M. E.
    Hamilton, C. L.
    Hollibaugh, A. L.
    Jamieson, D. H.
    Janssen, D.
    Latham, L.
    MacPherson, A.
    Seager, J. W.
    Swangard, E. M.
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    In attendance:
    Chase, J.
    McWhirney, E.
    Mugridge, I.
    Walkley, J.

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    1.
    APPROVAL OF AGENDA
    The agenda was approved as circulated.
    2.
    APPROVAL OF MINUTES
    The minutes of the Open Session of April 7, 1975 were approved as
    distributed.
    3.
    BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
    There was no business arising from the minutes.
    4.
    REPORT OF CHAIRMAN
    1) Paper S.75-65 - Legal Opinions - Section 84, Universities Act
    The Chairman reminded Senate this paper was provided for informa-
    tion.
    ii) Paper S.75-66 - Notre Dame University - Request from Universities
    Council
    Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by J. Ellis,
    "That the Senate of Simon Fraser University
    allow students of Notre Dame University to
    receive transfer credit to a maximum of 90
    credit hours toward a Bachelor's degree for
    a period of five years commencing in June
    1976."
    D. Birch requested that it be noted the maximum credit hours toward
    a Bachelor of Education degree could be 120 where the student has an
    acceptable professional year.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That, if Senate approves the principle proposed
    in Motion 1, the following conditions apply:
    a) In accordance with present policy, credit
    will be granted only in those disciplines
    that are applicable to an SFU degree program.
    As such, students in a Bachelor of Health
    Record Science and Bachelor of Secretarial
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    Arts program at NDU would receive credit for
    work which was within the currently recog-
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    b) That NDU students transferring to SFU will
    be required to meet the degree requirements
    of the appropriate SFU Faculty and Depart-
    ment at the time the transfer occurs."
    J. Ellis expressed his approval of the motion and also his hope
    that considerable humanity will be exercised in dealing with specific
    cases.
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    iii) Paper S.75-67 - Senate Committees
    Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by R. Brown,
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    1.
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    "That Senate approve the establishment of a
    Senate Committee on Committees."
    K. Rieckhoff suggested the committee was an ad hoc committee. There
    was general agreement that the name of the committee should he amended to
    Ad Hoc Senate Committee on Committees. J. Wheatley requested assurance
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    that the Ad Hoc Senate Committee on Committees would consult with concerned
    parties prior to implementation of any revisions to existing committee
    structures. He was given this assurance by the Chairman.
    Question was called on Motion 1 as changed, and a vote taken.
    MOTION AS CHANGED CARRIED
    Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by R. Brown,
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    2. ?
    "That the Senate Nominating Committee provide
    its recommentations for membership on the Ad
    Hoc Senate Committee under current rules to
    permit elections to occur at the June 2 meeting
    of Senate."
    Amendment was moved by E. Burkie, seconded by J. D'Auria,
    "That the Senate Nominating Committee provide
    its recommendations for membership on the Ad
    Hoc Senate Committee under current rules to
    permit elections to occur at the July meeting
    of Senate."
    E. Burkie felt it would be difficult for the Senate Nominating
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    Committee members to become acquainted with newly elected and appointed
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    Senators in such a short span of time and for the new Senators to become
    familiar with the various committees to which they may be nominated. B.
    Wilson spoke in opposition to the amendment as he considered the dis-

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    advantages of delaying election of new committee members was greater
    than the advantages that may be gained by delaying the nominating.
    J. D'Auria enquired as to the status of existing memberships during
    the interim and was advised by the Chairman that they will continue
    as they are at present.
    Question was called on the amendment to Notion 2, and a vote
    taken.
    AMENDMENT FAILED
    Question was called on Motion 2, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
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    "That the Ad Hoc Senate Committee on Committees
    be charged to consider 1) the structures in
    membership and the terms of reference of all
    present standing Senate Committees and the
    desirability or necessity of any change to
    structures or terms; ii) desirable structures
    in membership and the terms of reference of
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    new committees which may be deemed desirable
    or required under the provisions of the
    Universities Act, 1974; iii) suitable inter-
    relationships in the overall structuring of
    standing Senate Committees and their terms of
    reference, and to report back to Senate with
    recommendations at the earliest possible time."
    Question was called on Motion 3, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    4.
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    "That the membership on the Ad Hoc Senate
    Committee on Committees be as follows (parallel-
    ing the membership on Senate) -
    1) The Chairman of Senate or her designate - Chairman
    ii)
    The Secretary of Senate or his designate - Secretary
    (non-voting)
    iii)
    One member from the ex-officio members of Senate
    iv)
    Two members from those who are elected by and from
    the Faculty to Senate
    v) One member who was elected by and from the students
    to Senate
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    vi) One member who was elected by Convocation or
    appointed by the Lieutenant-Governor in Council to
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    J. Wheatley expressed concern that the proposed membership may not
    have the necessary expertise to carry out the tasks assigned. K.
    Rieckhoff requested that it be identified that the committee has the
    power to co-opt
    ,
    required assistance but any person(s)
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    utilized would
    not have voting privileges.
    Question was called on Motion 4, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    iv) Election Results
    In accordance with the Rules of Senate, the Secretary announced the
    results of recent elections by Convocation for Chancellor and four
    Convocation Senators for terms of office from June 1, 1975 to May 31, 1978.
    The results announced were as follows:
    Chancellor
    Ballots opened
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    Valid ?
    728
    Invalid ?
    3
    Envelopes not opened or Ballots
    not Extracted:
    No identity ?
    12
    Insecure ?
    12
    Wrong material ?
    1
    More than one from same voter
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    2
    Too late
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    1 ?
    28
    Individual Totals ?
    Bjarnason ?
    169
    Cotd ? 180
    Diamond ?
    281
    Seager ?
    98
    Individual receiving the highest number of votes
    and thereby declared elected:
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    J. DIAMOND
    Convocation Senators
    Ballots opened
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    Valid
    693
    Invalid
    3
    Individual Totals
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    Burkie
    283
    Davis
    299
    Hollibaugh
    284
    Knight
    374
    Martel
    370
    Overholt
    362
    Thomas
    321

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    Four individuals receiving the highest number
    of votes and thereby declared elected:
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    D. E. KNIGHT
    A. G. MARTEL
    M. J. OVERI-IOLT
    S. THOMAS
    The results of the elections by students of two students to the
    Board of Governors and ten students to the Senate for terms of office
    from June 1, 1975 to May 31, 1976 were not announced at Senate, and
    are therefore provided herewith for the information of Senators.
    The results are as follows:
    Board of Governors
    Ballots opened ?
    Valid
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    841
    Invalid
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    9
    Envelopes not opened or Ballots
    not Extracted
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    16
    Individual Totals
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    McCoy
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    242
    Shillow
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    576
    To or
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    647
    Individuals receiving the highest numbers of
    votes and thereby declared elected:
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    MOSHE SHILLOW
    JOHN B. TOOR
    Senate
    Ballots opened
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    Valid
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    841
    Invalid
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    14
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    Envelopes not opened or Ballots
    not Extracted
    Individual Totals
    Eight individuals receiving the highest
    numbers of votes in the Faculties of Arts
    and Science and thereby declared elected:
    14
    Catalano
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    539
    Dorsel
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    537
    Emery
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    506
    Ironside
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    492
    Linowski
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    399
    Mater I
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    445
    McCoy, C.
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    369
    McCoy, S.
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    583
    Shillow
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    572
    Vers felt
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    447
    Wallbaum
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    624
    D. C. WALLBAUM
    SHIRLEY GRACE McCOY
    MOSHE SHILLOW
    JOE CATALANO

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    MICHAEL N. DORSEL
    BRIAN E. EMERY
    RICHARD A. IRONSIDE
    JOHN A. VERSFELT
    Senate - Election of one student from the
    Faculty of Education
    Individual Totals
    Individual receiving the highest number
    of votes in the Faculty of Education and
    thereby declared elected:
    Senate - Election of one student from the
    Faculty of Interdisciplinary Studies
    One nomination was received. Nominee
    declared elected by acclamation:
    5. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
    Baker
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    172
    Harrison ?
    416
    Ruttan ?
    156
    SUSAN HARRISON
    ROGER SCHIFFER
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    i) Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies.
    a) Paper S.75-68 - New Course Proposals - Archaeology
    Moved by S. Smith, seconded by E. Burkie,
    1. "That Senate
    to the Board
    proposals as
    ARC. 333-3 -
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    approve, and recommend approval
    of Governors, the new course
    set forth in S.75-68 for
    Special Topics in Archaeology I
    Ecological Archaeology
    Quantitative Methods in Archaeology."
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    Question was called on Motion 1, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by S. Smith, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    2.
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    "That the normal two semester time lag
    requirement be waived in order that ARC.
    376 may be first offered in the Fall
    semester 1975."
    J. Wheatley proposed a substitute motion, "That the regulation
    pertaining to waiving the two semester time lag be abolished." The
    motion was ruled out of order.
    Question was called on Motion 2, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED

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    b) Paper S.75-69 - New Course Proposals and Curriculum Changes=
    English
    Moved by S. Smith, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    1.
    "That Senate approve, and recommend approval
    to the Board of Governors, the new English
    course proposals and curriculum changes, as
    set forth in S.75-69."
    In response to a question from J. D'Auria, S. Smith provided infor-
    mation that he has been assured the necessary financial resources are
    available to introduce the changes contained in the proposal.
    Question was called on Motion 1, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by S. Smith, seconded by
    K.
    Rieckhoff,
    2.
    "That the normal two semester time lag
    requirement be waived in order that ENGL
    204, 205, 206, 221 and 226 may be first
    offered on campus in the Fall semester
    1975."
    Question was called on Motion 2, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by S. Smith, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    3.
    "That the normal two semester time lag
    requirement be waived in order that ENGL
    010 may be first offered in Mount Currie
    in the Summer Session 1975 and on campus
    in the semester 1975."
    I. Mugridge noted the motion required correction to read, "... and
    on campus in the Fall semester 1975."
    With this correction, question was called on Motion 3, and a vote
    taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    (Secretary's Note: When ENGL 204, 205 and 206 are offered, ENGL 202
    and 203 will be discontinued. When ENGL 227 is offered, ENGL 225 will
    be discontinued. When ENGL 010 is offered, ENGL 001 will be discon-
    tinued.)

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    c) Paper S.75-70 - Proposed Biophysics Program
    Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That Senate approve, and recommend approval
    to the Board of Governors, the proposal for
    a Biophysics Program, as set forth in S.75-70,
    including:
    i)
    Major Program
    ii)
    Honors Program
    iii)
    PHYS 433-3 - Biophysics Laboratory
    iv)
    PHYS 482-3 - Physics of Biological Membranes
    and Membrane Models
    v)
    PHYS 483-3 - Topics in Mathematical Biophysics."
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That the normal two semester time lag
    requirement be waived in order that PHYS
    433-3 and PHYS 482-3 may be first offered
    in the Fall semester 1975."
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    d) Paper S.75-71 -New Course Proposals - CHEM 003-3 and CHEM 004-3
    Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by J. D'Auria,
    "That Senate approve, and recommend approval
    to the Board of Governors, the new course
    proposals as set forth in S.75-71, for
    CHEN 003-3 - Chemistry, Technology and Society
    CHEM 004-3 - Pollution, Energy and Resources."
    K. Rieckhoff drew attention to an addendum to Paper S.75-71 which
    outlined his objections to approval of CHEM 003, which he summarized in
    two points: that 00 courses should be taught with demonstrated profes-
    sional competence, and that large areas of the subject matter of the
    course were not science but only related to science. S. Aronoff countered
    that it was the intention of the Chemistry Department to consult with
    individuals from other disciplines when and to the extent necessary, but
    it should be recognized that it was a technological problem best resolved
    and presented to students by scientists. T. Sterling suggested there ap-
    peared to be overlap with GEOG 003, and R. Brown clarified that the course
    offered by the Geography Department had a clear cultural bias whereas the
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    proposed course was scientific.
    On a suggestion by J. D'Auria that the question be split, it was
    agreed to divide the motion, and the question was called on approval of
    CHEM 004.
    MOTION CARRIED

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    Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That CHEM 003 be referred to the Faculty
    of Interdisciplinary Studies for comment
    on how such an excellent course could best
    be taught."
    J. Wheatley stated that his quick analysis of the course outline
    suggested that Philosophy, Political Science, and Chemistry, and
    Geography to some degree, were all components of the subject matter.
    S. Aronoff commented that there was very little in the course which
    should not be addressed primarily by scientists but he agreed that
    consultation in other faculties was in order to enable the material
    to be presented optimally.
    Further debate continued, and S. Aronoff asked permission to
    invite Professor E. McWhinney to address the assembly and present a
    summary of the discussions between the Department of Chemistry and
    the Department of Political Science. E. McWhinney took a seat at the
    table.
    He said that B. D. Pate, of the Chemistry Department, had discussed
    the proposal over the past year and had shown impressive knowledge in
    the field in areas outside his own discipline. He testified also to the
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    impressiveness of the course proposal from the viewpoint of opening
    perspectives to social scientists as well as natural scientists.
    T. Sterling was of the opinion that in order to make the course
    worthwhile for science students it should be offered under the auspices
    of such a structure as Interdisciplinary Studies to assume responsibility
    to ensure that it is taught adequately representing both the necessary
    philosophy, social science and science which is involved in it.
    E. Burkle spoke against the motion and urged its defeat. He gave
    notice of amendment, "That before the course is offered at any one time
    that the Dean of Science must be satisfied by the Chemistry Department
    of the interdisciplinary composition of the faculty teaching the course."
    D. Birch remarked that the Faculty of Interdisciplinary Studies had
    been established with mechanisms to stimulate the development of inter-
    disciplinary work because of the absence and lethargy of most units
    within the University in responding with similar proposals, and he would
    not like to see the existence of that Faculty becoming a major hurdle or
    a deterrant to individual departments and faculties developing appropriate
    courses.
    J. D'Auria asked that it be made clear that the proposal was not
    restricted to science students but was accessible to students from
    outside the Science Faculty, and that his participation in its teaching
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    would be from the point of view of a scientist involved with the field
    and not with respect to the sociological implications of science and
    society.
    Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
    MOTION TO REFER FAILED

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    An amendment was moved by E. Burkie, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    "That before the course be offered at any
    one time that the Dean of Science must be
    satisfied by the Chemistry Department of
    the interdisciplinary composition of the
    people teaching the course."
    J. Ellis spoke in opposition to the motion, stating that the Faculty
    of Science appeared to have become more aware of the broader concerns of
    their disciplines and to apply restrictions is to place question upon the
    competence of the involved faculty. K. Rieckhoff countered that it is the
    responsibility of the Dean to be assured that competency exists. B. Wilson
    stated that Deans have eventual responsibility over the competency of the
    teaching staff, and he congratulated the Department of Chemistry in develop-
    ing a course of this kind on this subject. R. Brown concurred.
    Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
    AMENDMENT FAILED
    Question was called on approval of CHEM 003, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by E. Burkie,
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    "That the normal two semester time lag
    requirement be waived in order that CHEM
    003-3 may be first offered in the Fall
    semester 1975."
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    It was noted that when CHEM 003 and CHEM 004 are offered CHEM 001
    and CHEM 002 will be discontinued.
    ii). Senate Committee on Scholarships, Awards and Bursaries
    Paper S.75-72 - Report from Senate Committee on Scholarshi
    and Bursaries
    Moved by J. D'Auria, seconded by E. Burkie,
    "That the President consult with the Senate
    Committee on Scholarships, Awards and
    Bursaries one year following acceptance of
    this report by Senate with respect to the
    effectiveness of the change in administrative
    responsibility for the Financial Aid Office."
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    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    Awards

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    iii) Senate Committee on Alternative Academic Philosophies and Academic
    Obiectives for Simon Fraser University
    Paper S.75-73 - Report
    Moved by R. Brown, seconded by E. Burkle,
    i)
    "That this item be dealt with through
    'informal consideration of the question.'
    ii)
    That the period for informal consideration
    be one-half hour which, by majority vote,
    may be extended for a further period of up
    to one-half hour."
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    At the request of R. Brown, committee members J. Chase and J. Walkley
    were invited to be seated to respond to any questions.
    S.
    Smith suggested that the discussion be restricted at this meeting
    and further debate continued at the June meeting with retiring members of
    Senate being invited to contribute at that time.
    Replying to a question raised by E. Burkle, S. Smith stated that there
    was no definitional criteria to make a distinction between professional and
    non-professional programs, but the recently approved program in Criminology
    had been created to meet an educational need in the province. E. Burkle
    then asked if the proposed integrated curriculum would be attractive to
    students intending to advance to graduate schools, and J. WaLkley responded
    that the intention was to orient programs towards the majority of students
    who have no interest in the graduate school rather than the current trend of
    catering to the minority who progress to graduate work.
    T.
    Sterling discounted K. Rieckhoff's definition of a university as an
    institution with a strong endowment as a graduate school, and commented that
    the recommendations for the integrated liberal arts curriculum was a timely
    reversal of the trend.
    On behalf of the committee, J. Chase gave the rationale for the recom-
    mendation for a minimum enrolment of 5,000 and a maximum of 15,000 which
    was based on an analysis of both the birth rate and immigration statistics
    for British Columbia indicating 10% to 12% per year increase over the next
    four years and thereafter, because of a decline in the 18 to 24 age group
    during the following ten years, the increase would likely be about 1% each
    year, leaving the 15,000 maximum figure beyond reach for at least fifteen
    years.
    J. Ellis commended the committee members for wrestling with an unan-
    swerable set of questions, and stated that he hoped Senate would not move
    quickly to closure on a number of the questions upon which the surface had
    been barely scratched. He suggested Senate might want to consider setting
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    and crystallize some of the questions a little more clearly. P. Jewett
    asked If Senators wished to offer suggestions for consideration that they
    be directed to the committee for transmittal to Senate for further deliber-
    ation. A special meeting of Senate may be needed to discuss the report.
    Moved by R. Brown, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
    iii) "That further discussion on the report be
    postponed until the June meeting of Senate."
    Question was called, and a vote taken.
    MOTION CARRIED
    6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES
    There were no reports from faculties.
    7. OTHER BUSINESS
    J. D'Auria asked for information as to what arrangements were being
    made to ensure that the current strike by office and clerical staff would
    not necessitate cancellation of classes, and the Chairman responded that
    attention was being given by all chairmen and deans to affirm instructional
    responsibilities and should the strike continue for a prolonged period the
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    situation would be reassessed.
    8. NOTICES. OF MOTION
    i) Paper
    S.75-74 -
    Rules of Senate Committees (D. R. Birch)
    D. Birch asked that Paper S.75-74 be considered Notice of Motion for
    the June meeting of Senate.
    9. INFORMATION
    It was noted that the next meeting of Senate is scheduled for Monday,
    June 2, 1975, at 7:30 p.m.
    The Chairman thanked retiring Senators for their participation in the
    forum of Senate, and invited both current and incoming Senators to a recep-
    tion at the President's residence following adjournment of the session.
    K. Caple expressed his appreciation for the privilege of participating
    in the administration of Simon Fraser University over the previous six
    years, and commented on the good will and intelligence which emanated from
    the Senate debate.
    The meeting was declared adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
    H. M. Evans
    Secretary

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