DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
MINUTES OF MEETING OF SENATE OF SIMON
FRASER UNIVERSITY
HELD MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1973, 3172 ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 7:30 P.M.
OPEN SESSION
Present:
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Strand, K.
Chairman
Aronoff, S.
Baird, D. A.
Banister, E. W.
Beirne, B. P.
Birch, D. R.
Brown, R. C.
Copes, P.
Cot, P.
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Daem, J. P.
D'Auria, J. M.
Dawson, A. J.
DeVoretz, D. J.
Doherty, P. N.
Eastwood, G. R.
Ellis, J. F.
Emmott, A. H.
Haynes, N.
Hollibaugh, A. L.
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Jamieson, D. H.
Kissner, R. F.
Kitchen, J. N.
MacPherson, A.
Seager, J. W.
Smith, W.A.S.
Sterling, T. D.
Swangard, E. M.
Wagner, P. L.
Wheatley, J.
Wilson, B. G.
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Evans, H. N.
Secretary
Nagel, H. D.
Norsworthy, R.
Recording Secretary
Absent: ?
Caple, K. P.
Eliot Hurst, N. E.
Munro, J. M.
Nair, K. K.
Reid, W. D.
Rieckhoff, K. E.
Sadleir, R.M.F.S.
Salter, J. H.
Sutherland, C. A.
In attendance: ?
Mugridge, I.
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1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved as circulated.
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the Open Session of August 6, 1973 were approved
as distributed.
3.
BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
There was no business arising from the minutes.
4.
REPORT OF CHAIRMAN
There was no report from the Chairman.
5.
REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
1. Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
1. Paper S.73-98 - Faculty of Arts - Modern Languages - New Course
Proposals - French 303-3; Linguistics 410-3, 411-3, 412-3
Moved by S. Smith, seconded by A. Hollibaugh,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in Paper
5.73-98, the new course proposals for the
Department of Modern Languages:
French 303-3 - French for the Classroom
Linguistics 410-3 - Applied Linguistics
Linguistics 411-3 - Second Language Teaching
Linguistics 412-3 - The Teaching of English as
a Second Language."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by S. Smith, seconded by D. Baird,
"That Senate waive the normal two semester time
lag requirement in order that Linguistics 410-3
may be first offered in the Spring semester 74-1;
and that French 303-3, Linguistics 411-3, and
Linguistics 412-3 may be first offered in the
Summer semester 74-2."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
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MOTION CARRIED
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Note: Courses will be discontinued on introduction of the new courses
as follows:
New Course ?
Discontinued Course
410-3 - Applied Linguistics
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411-3 - Second Language Teaching ?
(426_5 - Applied Linguistics
412-3 - The Teaching of English as
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429-5 - The Teaching of English
a Second Language
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as a Second Language
(Editorial Note: Since approval of the courses as set forth in Paper
S.73-98, a typographical error has been noted in the prerequisite section
of the course proposal form for Linguistics 411. It should read that
students with credit for Linguistics 426-5 (not 425-5) may not take this
course for further credit. Also, on the Motion sheet of Paper S.73-98,
referring to Linguistics 412-3, the correct title of this course is The
Teaching of English as a Second Language.)
2. Paper S.73-99 - Faculty of Interdisciplinary Studies - New Course
Proposals - GS 400-5, GS 499-15
Moved by R. Brown, seconded by A. Hollibaugh,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.73-99,
the new course proposals for General Studies
400-5 - Individual Study Project, and General
Studies 499-15 - Individual Study Semester."
J. D'Auria expressed his concern regarding the availability of exper-
tise in the particular Faculty for proposals outside the Faculty of
Interdisciplinary Studies. He suggested that if a proposal involved a
Science Department it would be appropriate also for approval of the Dean
of Science to be included. J. Ellis, although commending the intent of
the proposal, said that courses of the type proposed could only function
on the basis of quality supervision and clearly defined procedures and
that the latter were lacking.
Amendment was moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by A. MacPherson,
"That these courses will not normally be utilized
in the Faculty of Interdisciplinary Studies if the
work is obtainable through normal departments."
J. Ellis stated that one of the elements of experience in this kind
of program is that it works with adequate supervision, but there must be
both individual and overall supervision or it will not function. R. Brown
pointed out that he intended to monitor the projects himself, with the
responsibility of organizing the supervisory committee resting with the
student. He added that the proposal was intended as a mechanism for cross
Faculty work, and students other than those registered in the Faculty of
Interdisciplinary Studies could take the courses but the decision as to
whether the courses could be included in the work for the degree in another
Faculty would rest with that Faculty and its regulations.
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Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
15 in favor
12 opposed
Replying to a question on lead-in time, R. Brown responded that
the intention was that students who wished to do GS 499 must have sub-
mitted a proposal a full semester prior to enrolment to allow sufficient
time for evaluation and time for acquisition of support from three
faculty members. Several Senators argued that four months lag seemed
unreasonable as proposals could be evaluated while other courses are in
progress and implementation could be completed at the beginning of the
following semester.
E. Banister considered that the forms were not adequate, and R.
Brown responded that they were examples of forms which had been used in
the earlier CS/BSF approach and could be adjusted appropriately.
Amendment was moved by R. Kissner, seconded by A. Hollibaugh,
"That all students wishing to enrol in GS 499
must apply and submit an outline of the proposal
at least two months prior to the start of classes
in the semester in which the course is to be taken."
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by B. Swangard,
"That the new course proposals, as set forth in
S.73-99, be referred back to the Senate Committee
on Undergraduate Studies for further documentation."
J. Wheatley stated that details of the mechanisms to be utilized
should be specified, including the date by which application must be
made, the date by which acceptance or rejection can be anticipated,
who determines whether the proposal is approved, and how this is done.
T. Sterling did not consider it necessary to spell out all of these
details as such operating procedures would normally be expected to
rest with the Dean.
Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO REFER FAILED
13 in favor
13 opposed
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In reply to a question by A. Dawson, R. Brown explained that GS 499
was a general equivalent to courses previously offered as CS 499 and
BSF 499, each of which had been designed to meet the specific departmental
requirements.
Amendment was moved by J. Ellis, seconded by J. P. Daem,
"That the Dean will personally take responsibility
for providing students desiring to take GS 499-15
with a schedule concerning dates for submission of
application, approval of application, and like
matters."
R. Brown took exception to the motion which he felt called for an
explicit statement on the normal responsibility of a Dean. The Chairman
stated that his interpretation of the motion was that it merely indicated
that items not covered explicitly would be subject to the responsibility
of the Dean.
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
Question was called on the main motion as amended, and a vote taken.
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED
CARRIED
Moved by R. Brown, seconded by J. Ellis,
"That Senate waive the normal two semester time
lag requirement in order that these courses may
be first offered in the Spring Semester 74-1."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
2. Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules
1. Paper S.73-100 - Motion to Amend the ules of Procedure
Moved by A. MacPherson, seconded by A. Hollibaugh,
"That Rule I of Rules of Procedure of Senate,
Status of these Rules of Procedure, sentence
2, be amended to read, 'Alterations of these
Rules of Procedure shall require written notice
at a regular meeting of Senate prior to the
meeting at which a vote on the proposed altera-
tion is taken, which vote shall require an
affirmative vote by two-thirds of the voting
members present to carry."
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A. MacPherson drew attention to the support paper for the rationale
of this motion. He pointed out that at the May meeting of Senate the
Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules were instructed to bring forward
recommendations for the Rules of Procedure for conducting Senate's
business. The acceptance of working rules will require amendment or
changing of the original rules established in 1966. He also mentioned
that for the last 28 meetings of Senate on ten occasions this would have
been impossible because an insufficient number of Senators were in atten-
dance. This amendment will provide the flexibility required to enable
the Committee to present recommendations for the Rules of Procedure.
In reply to a query by J. Wheatley, the Chairman noted that 26 votes
in favor would allow the motion to pass.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
27 in favor
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0 opposed
The Chairman noted that Motion 2 was redundant with the passage of
Motion 1.
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6.
REPORTS OF FACULTIES
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There were no reports from Faculties.
7.
OTHER BUSINESS
1.
Notice of Motion
There were no notices of motion.
2.
Date of Next Meeting
It was noted that the next meeting of Senate is scheduled for Monday,
October 1, 1973, at 7:30 p.m.
3.
Other Items
There were no other items.
4.
Confidential Matters
The Open Session of Senate recessed briefly at 8:26 p.m., prior to
moving into Closed Session.
H. N. Evans
Secretary
