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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
MINUTES OF MEETING OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY
HELD MONDAY, AUGUST
6, 1973, 3172
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING,
7:30
P.M.
OPEN SESSION
Present:
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Wilson, B. G.
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Chairman
Aronoff, S.
Baird, D. A.
Beirne, B. P.
Birch, D. R.
Brown, R. C.
Daem, J. P.
Doherty, P. M.
Haynes, N.
Hollibaugh, A. L.
Kissner, R. F.
Kitchen, J. M.
MacPherson, A.
Rieckhoff, K. E.
Sadleir, R.M.F.S.
Sterling, T. D.
Smith, W.A.S.
Evans, H. M.
Nagel, H. D.
Norsworthy, R.
Absent:
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Banister, E. W.
Caple, K. P.
Copes, P.
Cotê, P. T.
D'Auria, J. M.
Dawson, A. J.
DeVoretz, D. J.
Eastwood, G. R.
Eliot Hurst, N. E.
Ellis, J. F.
Einmott, A. H.
Jamieson, D. H.
Munro, J. N.
Nair, K. K.
Reid, W. D.
Salter, J. H.
Seager, J. W.
Strand, K.
Sutherland, G. A.
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Swangard, E. N.
Wagner, P. L.
Wheatley, J.
Representing D. H. Sullivan
Secretary
Recording Secretary
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1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ?
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The agenda was approved as circulated.
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Secretary pointed out a technical error in connection with
paper
S.73-79,
covering new course proposals in Mathematics, where on
page
7
of the minutes of July
9, 1973
Mathematics
402
was inaccurately
shown as carrying
2
credits, and asked that it be noted that the course
was for
3
credits. With this correction, the minutes of the Open
Session of July
9, 1973
were approved as distributed.
3.
BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
There was no business arising from the minutes.
4. REPORT OF CHAIRMAN
There was no report from the Chairman.
5. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
1. Senate Undergraduate Admissions Board
1. Paper
S.73-90 -
Transfer Credit for Ontario Grade XIII
Moved by J. Kitchen, seconded by A. MacPherson,
"That transfer credit no longer be granted
for work taken in Ontario Grade XIII. That
this policy become effective for admission
to Spring Semester,
1974
and later."
S. Aronoff suggested that the last two words on the motion were
redundant, and the Chairman agreed that they could be removed without
altering the intent.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
2.
Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
1. Paper
S.73-91 -
Faculty of Arts - New Course Proposals - Modern
Languages, Linguistics
401-3, 402-3, 403-3, 404-3, 405-3, 406-3,
407-3, 408-3, 409-3
Moved by S. Smith, seconded by R. Brown,
"That Senate approve the new course proposals
for the undernoted Linguistics courses, as
set forth in Paper
S.73-91:
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Linguistics
401-3
- Advanced Phonetics
Linguistics
402-3
- Phonemics
Linguistics
403-3
- Generative Phonology
Linguistics
404-3
- Morphology and Syntax
Linguistics
405-3
- Transformational Syntax
Linguistics
406-3 .-
Introduction to Semantics
Linguistics
407-3
- Historical Linguistics and Dialectology
Linguistics
408-3 -
Field Linguistics
Linguistics
409-3 -
Sociolinguistics"
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by S. Smith, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate waive the normal two semester
time lag requirement In order that the
above courses may be first offered in or
after the Spring semester 74-1."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
It was noted that with the Introduction of the approved new courses,
the following courses will be discontinued:
Revised Course
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Course to be discontinued
Linguistics 401-3 - Advanced Phonetics
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421-1 - Phonetics
Linguistics
Linguistics
402-3
403-3
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Phonology
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423-5 - Analytic Techniques I
Linguistics 404-3 - Morphology and Syntax
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Linguistics 405-3 - Transformational Syntax
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424-5 - Analytic Techniques II
Linguistics 406-3 - Introduction to Semantics 425-5 - Analytic Techniques III
Linguistics 408-3 - Field Linguistics
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427-5 - Field Methods
2. Paper S.73-92 - Faculty of Interdisciplinary Studies - New Course
Proposals - GS 302-3 - The I Ching, GS 303-3 - Chinese Literature
In Translation
Moved by R. Brown, seconded by J. P. Daem,
"That Senate approve the new course proposals
for GS 302-3 - The I Ching, and GS 303-3 -
Chinese Literature in Translation, as set
forth in Paper S.73-92."
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K. R[eckhoff, noting that the proposal for The I Ching was a
Longer version of a previous submission, stated that the substance
had not changed and he could not support a motion for adoption. R.
Brown responded that suitable procedures had been followed to assure
as far as possible that the quality of the courses proposed would be
comparable to any others within the University.
Moved by P. Doherty, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That the question be divided."
Question was called on the motion to divide and to give first
consideration to CS 302-3 - The I Ching, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO DIVIDE CARRIED
J.
P. Daem enquired whether the course would be offered yearly,
and R. Brown replied that not all General Studies courses must be brought
back to Senate for reapproval, and unless there was a rider specifying a
one-time offering, it would be his intention to offer The I Ching once a
year.
Amendment was moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by P. Doherty,
. "That GS 302-3 - The I Ching - be offered
once on an experimental basis and brought
back to Senate for further consideration."
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
Question was called on the motion as amended, and a vote taken.
MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED
Discussion was then centred on CS 303-3 - Chinese Literature in
Translation.
Amendment was moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by A. MacPherson,
"That GS 303-3 - Chinese Literature in
Translation - carry the same prerequisite
as required for The I Ching, namely 60
semester hours of credit."
K.
Rieckhoff stated that the course could not be offered successfully
at the 300 level unless there was reasonably uniform academic maturity in
the audience. In response to a query from S. Aronoff it was noted that for
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a number of survey courses In Literature numbered in the 300 series offered
through DNL there were no stated prerequisites.
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Amendment to the amendment was moved by R. Kissrier, seconded by
K. Rieckhoff,
"To add to the prerequisite, 'or permission
of the instructor.
Question was called on the amendment to the amendment, and a vote
taken.
AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT
CARRIED
Question was called on the amendment, as amended, "That GS 303-3 -
Chinese Literature in Translation - carry the same prerequisite as re-
quired for The I Ching, namely 60 semester hours of credit, or permission
of the instructor," and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT AS AMENDED
FAILED
Amendment was moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by A. MacPherson,
"That this course be offered once on an experimental
basis and brought back to Senate for further considera-
tion."
SQuestion was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
9 in favor
7 opposed
Discussion then ensued on the 300 level number assigned to this
course, but following discussion no change was made.
Moved by R. Sadleir, seconded by J. P. Daem,
"That the previous question now be put."
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Question was called on the previous question, and a vote taken.
MOTION ON THE PREVIOUS
QUESTION CARRIED
Question was called on the motion as amended, and a vote taken.
MOTION AS AMENDED
CARRIED
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5 opposed
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Moved by R. Brown, seconded by A. Hollibaugh,
"That Senate waive the normal two semester
time lag requirement in order that GS 302-3
- The I Ching - may be first offered in the
Spring semester 74-1."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
3.
Paper S.73-93 - Faculty of Science - New Course Proposal -
BiSc 432-3- Chemical Pesticides and the Environment
Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by R. Sadleir,
"That Senate approve the new course proposal
for BjSc 432-3 - Chemical Pesticides and the
Environment, as set forth in Paper S.73-93."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
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sMoved by S. Aronoff, seconded by R. Sadleir,
"That the normal two semester time lag
requirement be waived in order that BiSc
432-3 may be first offered in the Spring
semester 74-1."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
4.
Paper S.73-94 - Faculty of Science - New Program Proposals -
Minor Programs in Chemistry
Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by R. Brown,
"That Senate approve the new program
proposals for four minor programs in
Chemistry:
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General Chemistry;
2.
Organic/Biochemistry;
3.
Inorganic/Radiochemistry;
4.
Physical and Nuclear Chemistry,
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as set forth in Paper S.73-94."
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R. Kissner spoke against the motion, stating that the calendar
was becoming a rapid proliferation of minor programs which defeated
the intended purpose, and in this instance the lower level require-
ments specified 36 of the first 60 hours must be taken in Chemistry.
S. Aronoff agreed that the concern was real, but the minors had been
designed for students in the sciences. D. Birch spoke in favor of
the motion, expressing the view that as long as the present pre-
requisite structure of courses in Chemistry pertains it is impossible
to provide more flexible minors, and it seems desirable to provide an
opportunity to minor in two sciences rather than take a major. K.
Rieckhoff added that the proposed minors were packages of knocombina-
tions that will serve particular interests useful in a professional
sense for particular areas.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
(Minor Programs approved were as follows:-
Chemistry Minor (General Chemistry)
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Pre- and Co-requisites listed
in calendar
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Chem 104-3
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Math 151-3
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152-3
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105-3 ?
253-4
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117-2
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352-2 recommended
Chem 251-3
256-2
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232-3
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Phys 201-2 or
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261-3
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Phys 101-3 plus 102-3
252-3
36 hours minimum
Chem 332-3
336-2
341-3
351-3 at least
356-2 14 of
361-3 these
366-2
362-3
367-2
14 hours minimum
Total 50 hours minimum
(52 with Math 352-2)
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Chemistry Minor (Organic/Biochemistry)
Chem 104-3
105-3
115-2
Chem 251-3
256-2
252-3
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Pre- and Co-requisites listed
in calendar
Math 151-3
152-3
Phys 201-2 or
Phys 101-3 plus 102-3
24 hours minimum
Chem 351-3
356-2
453-3
457-3
421-3 at least
426-2 9 of
422-3 these
427-2
454-3
14 hours minimum
Total 38 hours minimum
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Chemistry Minor (Inorganic/Radiochemistry) Pre- and Co-requisites listed
in calendar
Chem 104-3
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115-2 ?
Math 151-3
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105-3 ?
152-3
117-2
Chem 232-3
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251-3 ?
Phys 201-2 or
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256-2 ?
Phys 101-3 plus 102-3
26 hours minimum (+28, *32 hrs.
minimum)
Chem 332-3
336-2
341-3
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432-31 at least
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*442_31 these
446-2J
14 hours minimum
Total 41 hours minimum
+ Students selecting this option must have completed as prerequisites either
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Physics 233-2, or Chemistry 261-3 plus Chemistry 361-3 plus Chemistry 366-2
and their prerequisites.
* Students selecting this option must have completed as prerequisites Chemistry
261-3 plus Chemistry 361-3 and their prerequisites, or have the permission of
the Department.
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Chemistry Minor (Physical and Nuclear Chemistry) Pre- and Co-requisites listed
in calendar
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Chem 104-3
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Math 151-3
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115-2 ?
152-3
253-4
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105-3 ?
352-2 recommended
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Chem 251-3
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Phys 201-2 or
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*261_3
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Phys 101-3 plus 102-3
26 hours minimum
Chem 361-3
366-2
362-3
367-2
341-3 at least
+416-3 14 of
462-3 these
463-3
471-3
442-3
446-2
14 hours minimum
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Total 40 hours minimum
(42 hours with Math 352-2)
* or Physics 206-2 by permission of the Department
+ Students selecting this option must have completed as prerequisites
Chemistry 117-2, and either (a) Physics 233-2, or (b) Chemistry 261-3
plus Chemistry 361-3 plus Chemistry 366-2 and their prerequisites.)
3. Academic Planning Committee
1. Paper S.73-95 - Proposal for Establishment of Programs in
Criminology
Moved by R. Brown, seconded by D. Baird,
"That Senate approve, and recommend to the Board
of Governors, as set forth in Paper S.73-95, that
graduate and undergraduate programs in Criminology
be established at this University."
A. Hollibaugh recommended that the proposal go back for further
consideration as he considered additional information was required in
the area of hard sciences. P. Doherty questioned whose interests would
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be served and whose should be served. J. P. Daem spoke in opposition to
Motion 1, stating that he did not consider sufficient documentation had
been provided. R. Brown gave background information on the two and one-
half years consideration leading to development of Paper S.73-95 following
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discussions initiated by the Provincial Council on Education in Crimin-
ology. He said that agencies representing the school system and law
enforcement at all levels of government had been represented on the
Council, and it was obvious that there was a need for research guidance
and education in the area of criminology. As there is very little
research at a professional level in the area of criminology there was
opportunity for the University to move into an emerging discipline. R.
Sadleir commented that the motions contained on the covering page of
Paper S.73-95 should be reversed.
Moved by R. Sadleir, seconded by J. P. Daem,
"That Motion 1 be postponed until Motion 2
is considered."
Question was called on the motion to postpone consideration of
Motion 1, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO POSTPONE CARRIED
Moved by R. Brown, seconded by P. Doherty,
"That Senate approve, and recommend to the Board
of Governors, as set forth in Paper S.73-95, that
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programs be developed for consideration by Senate?
and the Board as follows:
a)
That a Director be sought who would be given
the responsibility of developing detailed
program proposals for graduate and under-
graduate programs in criminology;
b)
That a steering committee be struck by the
Academic Vice-President from within the
University to work with the Program Director
in the development and implementation of such
proposals;
c) That three types of programs be developed:
i)
an undergraduate program emphasizing
a 'problem specific' approach (see
Hogarth/Weisstub proposal);
ii)
a professional oriented evening program
administratively modelled after the
Master of Business Administration Program
presently offered within the Department
of Economics and Commerce:
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iii) a small, research oriented daytime graduate
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program leading to a Master of Arts in
Criminology."
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and Camosun Colleges in developing the
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liaison between Douglas,, Langara
proposal. The Colleges have
iate their current programs and
requirements of Simon Fraser for
Amendment was moved by J. P. Daem, seconded by J. Kitchen,
"That Section a) be deleted totally; Section c)
be deleted totally); and Section b) changed to
read, 'That a steering committee be struck by
the Academic Vice-President from within and without
the University to work in the development and
implementation of such proposals,' and that a
definition for 'without the University' be provided."
It was agreed to consider the amendment Section by Section, and
the question was called on the amendment to delete Section a) of Motion
2, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT FAILED
With the defeat of the amendment which would have eliminated search
for a Director, question was called on an adjusted amendment to Section
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b) to add the words "and without" and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
10 in favor?
2 opposed
Considerable discussion ensued on Section c) of the amendment, which
S. Aronoff suggested was subsumed within Section a) and there was no need
for restriction. A. Hoilibaugh and D. Birch agreed that the motion should
not be restrictive and a Director of such a program should be completely
unhampered. D. Birch then gave notice of motion which he intended to offer,
"That primary consideration be given to the development of three types of
programs:---"
Question was called on the amendment to delete Section c), and a vote
taken.
AMENDMENT FAILED
Amendment was moved by D. Birch, seconded by K. Rleckhoff,
"That Section c) be amended to
read,
"That
primary consideration be given to the develop-
ment of three types of programs:
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'problem specific' approach (see Hogarth/
Weisstub proposal);
ii) a professional oriented evening program
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administratively modelled after the Master
of Business Administration Program
presently offered within the Department of
Economics and Commerce;
a small, research oriented daytime graduate
program leading to a Master of Arts in
Criminology."
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
The Chairman stated that consideration should be given to a
definition of "without the University," and J. P. Daem suggested
that it be the community described somewhat more broadly - law
enforcement agencies, social people involved in the Corrections
Branch, some of the hard sciences, and other suitable groups.
Question was called on the main motion as amended, and a vote
taken.
MOTION
.2 AS AMENDED CARRIED
11 in favor?
6 opposed
Moved by A. Hollibaugh, seconded by J. P. Daem,
"That consideration of Motion 1 be tabled
pending a report on Motion 2."
The Chairman commented that Motion 1 had been essentially passed
as it establishes the principle subject to Board approval of Programs,
but K. Rieckhoff said there is a difference between recommending the
development and the recommendation that something be established.
Question was called on the motion to table Motion 1, and a vote
taken.
MOTION TO TABLE FAILED
R. Kissner commented that there were two criteria for consideration
- academic need and human need and the provincial justice system was
such that anything that would stop the proposal would be detrimental.
Question was called on Motion 1, and a vote taken.
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MOTION 1 CARRIED
10 in favor?
7- opposed
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6.
REPORTS OF FACULTIES AND DIVISION
There were no reports from Faculties or Division.
7.
OTHER BUSINESS
1.
Notice of Motion
1. Paper S.73-96 - Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules
On behalf of the Senate Committee on Agenda and Rules, A. MacPherson
gave notice of motion for consideration at the September meeting of Senate
for alteration of the Rules of Procedure:
"That Rule I of Rules of Procedure of Senate, Status of these
Rules of Procedure, sentence 2, be amended to read, 'Alterations
of these Rules of Procedure shall require written notice at a
regular meeting of Senate prior to the meeting at which a vote on
the proposed alteration is taken, which vote shall require an
affirmative vote by two-thirds of the voting members present to
carry,' and
"That the rules of Senate be suspended in order to permit a postal
vote on the motion to amend the Rules of Procedure."
2. Date of Next Meeting
It was noted that the next meeting of Senate is scheduled for Monday,
September 10, 1973, at 7:30 p.m.
3.
Other Items
There were no other items.
4. Confidential Matters
The meeting adjourned briefly at 9:15 p.m. prior to moving into
Closed Session.
H. H. Evans
Secretary
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