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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
MINUTES OF MEETING OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY
HELD MONDAY, JANUARY 10, 1972, EAST CONCOURSE CAFETERIA, 7:30 P.M.
OPEN SESSION
PRESENT:
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Wilson, B. C.
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Chairman
Allen, D. I.
Aronoff, S.
Bashain, C. D.
Birch, D. R.
Bradley, R. D.
Carlson, R. L.
Donetz, G.
Harper, R.J.C.
Jennings, R. E.
Lachlan,, A. H.
Mallinson, T. J.
Mugridge, I.
Nair, K. K.
O'Connell, M. S.
Rieckhoff, K. E.
Sullivan, D. H.
Turnbull, A. L.
Wagner, P. L.
Wheatley, J.
Williams, W. E.
Evans, H. M. ?
Secretary
Meyers, D. A.
Norsworthy, R.
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Recording Secretary
ABSENT: Baird, D. A.
Brown, R. C.
Campbell, N. J.
Caple, K. P.
Claridge, R. W.
Drache, Mrs. S..
Freiman, Mrs. L.
Gilbert, K. L.
Hamilton, V. M.
Hodge, F. D.
McDougall, A. H.
Reid, W. D.
Salter, J. H.
Srivastava, L. N.
Strand, K. T.
Sutherland, G. A.
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IN ATTENIANC:
Chase, J.
Diamond, A. L.
Kendall, L. N.
Koopman, R. F.
Lardner, R. W.
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ?
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It was agreed that the agenda would be reordered to accommodate
resource people from the Department of Psychology and the Department
of Mathematics who would be called upon to answer questions put to
them by Senate in connection with the submissions from those Depart-
ments.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
K. Rieckhoff requested that the first portion of the sentence
contained in the last paragraph on page 5, extending through page 6,
of the minutes of December 6, 1971, be changed to read, "K. Rieckhoff
enquired whether a major or honors in Psychology could be obtained
with fewer credits than previously, and was assured no."
R. Harper asked that the second sentence in the second paragraph
of page 6 be altered to read, "R. Harper suggested that rather than
remove the prerequisite status of Psychology 210, 220, 230 to accom-
modate the needs of students for upper level studies in humanistic or
existential psychology, it might be more appropriate to rework the
content of these courses in a manner consonant with the 'new' trend
(to humanism and existentialism)."
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S. Aronoff and K. Rleckhoff then referred to page 13 and requested
that where the word "dynamics" appears it should be preceded by "thermo."
K. Rieckhoff referred to the amendment attributed to B. Wilson and
D. Birch, also shown on page 13 of the minutes, and stated that it was
his understanding that such a calendar entry was agreed to and there-
fore it was not necessary to call a formal motion in this regard, and
the minutes are to be adjusted accordingly.
The Chairman stated that, with the corrections as noted, the
minutes of the Open Session of December 6, 1971 were approved.
3.
BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
There was no business arising from the minutes.
4.
REPORT OF CHAIRMAN
Paper S.72-1 - Financial Statements
It was noted that this paper had been submitted for information.
Paper S.72-2 - Mature Student Entry
The new calendar entry covering a change in regulations for Mature
Student Entry was noted for Information.
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At this stage the Chairman indicated that some additional papers
were being distributed to Senators as appendices, notably Appendix A,
and Appendix B to Paper S.72-14.
5. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Chairman noted that under the revised agenda the next order
of business would be Reports of Committees, and that the submissions
relating to Departments who had sent representatives would be con-
sidered
immediately upon the arrival of the resource people.
4. Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
Curriculum and Calendar Changes
2. Faculty of Science
Paper S.72-14, and Appendix A and Appendix B - Mathematics
Moved
by S. Aronoff, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.72-14,
PROPOSAL I.
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Degree Requirements for Majors and
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Honors in Mathematics.
PROPOSAL II. Degree Requirements for a minor
Program in Mathematics.
PROPOSAL III. Adjustment to the Calculus Sequence -
with discontinuance of Mathematics
251-3, replaced by Mathematics 253-4.
PROPOSAL IV. Discontinuance of Mathematics 411-4,
replaced by Mathematics 311-4
(renumbering).
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Change in Prerequisite for Mathematics
422-4.
PROPOSAL VI. New Course Proposal - Mathematics 302-3
- with discontinuance of Mathematics
102-3."
S. Aronoff stated that a relatively complete description of the
rationale for each of the proposals was available for members of Senate.
and that Dr. R. Lardner was on hand to provide additional material if
required.
Question was called on the motion, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
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Paper S.72-15 - Mathematics
Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.72-15,
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New Course Proposal - Mathematics 305-4.
2.
New Course Proposal - Mathematics 361-3
- with discontinuance of Mathematics 261-3.
3.
Changes in Prerequisites for Mathematics
Courses.
4.
Change in Calendar Description for
Mathematics 152-3."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-16 - New Course Proposal - Biological Sciences:
Marine Science 400, 410, 420, 430
Moved by S. Aronoff, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve, subject to satisfactory
administrative arrangements being made, the
new course proposals as set forth in S.72-16,
for offering at Bamfield:
Marine
Science
400-6
- Directed Studies
Marine
Science
410-6
- Marine Invertebrate Zoology
Marine
Science
420-6
- Marine Phycology
Marine
Science
430-6
- Marine Ecology."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
1. Academic Planning Committee
Paper S.72-3 - Extension of Deadline Dates
Moved
by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
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"That the date of January 31, 1972 for the
submission to the Academic Planning Committee
of a coherent program in Social Relations be
extended to March 31, 1972.
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That the date of January 31, 1972 for the
submission to Senate through the Academic
Planning Committee of the Faculty of
Education report regarding its curriculum,
staffing and organization be extended to
March 31, 1972."
J. Wheatley stated that there had been considerable delay caused
by the necessary consideration of the Academic Planning Committee's
presentation by the Board of Governors, and the extension of deadline
dates was necessary.
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION' CARRIED
Members of the Department of Psychology having arrived at the
meeting, it was
Moved by R. Bradley, seconded by G. Donetz,
"That the members of the Psychology Department
(A. L. Diamond, L. M. Kendall and R. F.' Koopman)
be seated."
MOTION CARRIED
4. Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies
Curriculum and Calendar Changes
Faculty of Arts
Paper S.72-13 a, b (formerly Papers S.71-135 and S.71-135a -
Department of Psychology
The Chairman pointed out that the paper distributed as Appendix
A and Appendix B for Paper S..72-8 should read as Appendix A and
Appendix B for Paper S.72-13, and asked members to change the numbers
accordingly.
Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by J. Wheatley,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.72-13 a, b:
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b) Discontinuance of Courses
Psych 302
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Psych 220- (renumbered)
Psych 303-
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Psych 230- (renumbered
Psych 304-
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Psych 240- (renumbered)
Psych 411-5
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c)
Changes in prerequisites and requirements as
set forth on Page 1.
d)
Changes in titles: Psych 101, Psych 385, Psych
485, Psych 401, Psych 410, following technicali-
ties discussed with Registrar.
e)
The calendar entry, Pages 4-11."
K. Rieckhoff stated that there was very little difference in the
submission from the Psychology Department as provided to the December
6, 1971 meeting of Senate, from which it had been withdrawn, other
than a statement from the Chairman of the Department who appeared to
indicate that no further discussion was felt to be required by the
Department. He expressed annoyance that the rationale of the changes
had very little resemblance to that previously presented, and that
the representatives of the Psychology Department who had attended the
December meeting had apparently replied inaccurately to his question-
ing of the requirements for the major/honors degree.
The Chairman pointed out that the paper had been submitted to
Senate through the Senate Committee on Undergraduate Studies, but
R. Harper questioned the Psychology Department representatives as to
the route that the paper had taken since it had been withdrawn from
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the previous Senate meeting, and was particularly concerned as to
whether it had been considered at a duly constituted meeting of the
Psychology Department or the Undergraduate Studies Committee of that
Department. L. Diamond replied that, as it was his understanding
from the transcript of the previous Senate meeting that the paper was
in the status of having never been presented after it was withdrawn,
the original proposal was resubmitted with additional information
which had not been available to Senate at the time it was discussed at
the earlier meeting of Senate.
R. Harper contended that the additional information submitted by
the Department was not only incorrect, but misleading, and that there
was insufficient comparative data to provide a careful analysis of the
programs leading to majors and honors degrees offered by other univer-
sities. (A paper was distributed, now labelled Appendix C to Paper
S.72-l3.)
G. Basham requested permission to question Dr. Lardner, of the
Mathematics Department, regarding the recommended course, Math 101,
and it was
Maved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by R. Jennings,
"That R. Lardnerbe seated."
MOTION CARRIED
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SR. Lardner expressed his Department's opinion that the proposal
of the Psychology Department to remove Mathematics 101 as a pre-
requisite for Psychology 210 would in effect make Psychology 210 a
first statistics course more or less equivalent to Mathematics 101,
thus causing duplication and undercutting the enrolment in the
Mathematics course. He urged that Math 101 remain as a prerequisite
for Psych 210, not merely a recommended course.
D. Sullivan provided information relating to a committee which
had been established, comprising four scientists, and four people from
the Faculty of Arts, who were meeting to discuss the question of
statistics offerings in various Departments of the University, and
that a report would be forthcoming by the end of the Spring semester.
A. Lachlan felt that Senate should hOld the line on the issue at
least while it was under consideration by the committee mentioned by
D. Sullivan. T. Mallinson said that there was a good deal of overlap
in all courses, and that the criticism In this instance was unfair.
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by W. Williams,
"That the motion be divided."
As there was no objection, the Chairman ruled that Motions a)
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and b) of Paper S.72-13 would be first considered together.
General questioning of the resource people was then undertaken,
with R. Harper and K. Rieckhoff querying the purpose of advancing the
numbering of the courses from the 200 to the 300 level. L. Diamond
and L. Kendall provided information stating that the courses were being
taught at a level consistent with the capabilities of students who
already had sufficient Psychology credits in their programs to advance
to a wider range of psychological topics.
Debate on the issue followed, wherein both R. Harper and K.
Rieckhoff expressed their intention to vote against the proposal for
changes in the numbering of courses. R. Harper stressed that he was
not satisfied that the paper had emanated from a properly constituted
meeting of the Psychology Department regardless of whether or not it
had been through the processes of the Senate Committee on Undergraduate
Studies, and stated that if Senate passed the paper and found itself
subscribing to a policy and policy changes that did not reflect the
opinions of the Department it would be
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acting in a most irresponsible
manner.
L. Diamond assured Senate that the proposal had been initiated by
the Psychology Department and had been approved by referendum after
discussion, and that. it had been through all the procedures required
by the Faculty of Arts before its original presentation to Senate.
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P. Wagner suggested that there had been sufficient doubt raised
to place the matter in abeyance until it is cleared, and he was 'dubious
of frequent convenient compromise, opportune reorganization and ex-
pedient stalemates. R. Carlson expressed the opinion that inasmuch as
the Psychologists were in closest contact with the affected students
they were most capable of organizing their curriculum.
D. Birch pointed out that the numbering of the courses at the 200
level implied a necessary sequence and would lead students to opt for
the proposed courses prior to other 300 and 400 level courses and in
the judgment of the members of the Psychology Department the courses
should not be implied to be prerequisite prior to or supposed to be
taken in advance of the topics occupying other 300 level slots.
Question was called on Motions a) and b) of Paper S.72-13, and a
vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
The Chairman stated that he would next entertain questions re-
lating to Motion c) of Paper S.72-13 covering changes in prerequisites
and requirements.
K. Rieckhoff requested information on the result of the referenda
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conducted in the Faculty of Arts, and D. Sullivan responded that the
'processes had been legitimately followed resulting in an honest,
'certified referendum in the Faculty. L. Diamond said that he would be
willing to provide the actual figures on the results if necessary, but
he recalled that it was a very strong vote.
G. Basham expressed concern regarding the status of Math 101 as
a recommended rather than a prerequisite course, and R. Koopman res-
ponded that there were other courses in the Mathematics Department,
such as Math 106, which provide greater value to students as intro-
ductory computing courses.
R. Harper asked for explanation of the Psychology Department claim
that students are allowed greater flexibility with Psychology 302, 303
and 304 deleted from the list of required courses for majors and honors.
L. Diamond replied that experience has indicated that there is a need
for options other than the traditional experimental approaches.
K. Rieckhoff asked the Chair if an instructor has the prerogative
to waive prerequisites specified by Senate, and was informed that an
Instructor may do so if he is satisfied that the individual clearly has
sufficient background to handle the particular course adequately.
Amendment was moved by A. Lachlan, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Math 101 be retained as a prerequisite
to Psychology 210."
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Several Senators voiced disagreement with the amendment, and
A. Lachlan explained that he was merely asking for status quo until
the question has been examined.
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT FAILED
9 In favor
10 opposed
Amendment was moved by A. Lachlan, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That the list of required courses for the
general program with a major in Psychology
be changed so that Mathematics 101 is admitted
as satisfying the requirements for Psychology
210."
A. Lachlan stated that there appeared to be a 75% overlap in the
two courses and It was unreasonable that students should not be given
a free choice. Members of the Psychology Department expressed the
view that Math 101 would hamper students in later courses, and that
those with a Psychology background had better experience with statistics.
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Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT FAILED
Amendment was moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by R. Harper,
"That the calendar change referring to
requirements for majors and honors
(Section 2.a) 'Psychology 302, 303 and
304 (formerly 220, 230 and 240) are no
longer required courses for majors and
honors') be struck."
K. Rieckhoff stated that this amendment had been approved by Senate
at its December 6, 1971 meeting, but the action had been lost when the
paper was withdrawn. He was of the opinion that the basic areas of the
honors curriculum would be deleted unless the amendment was approved.
R. Harper added that learning, perception and motivation are essential
to any kind of psychology and by widening the scope students could be
given an opportunity to see the distinctions of approaches by different
psychologists.
Moved by D. Birch, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That the previous question now be put."
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SQuestion was called on the previous question, and a vote taken.
MOTION ON THE PREVIOUS
QUESTION CARRIED
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT FAILED
A. Lachlan drew attention to what appeared to be an error in the
calendar entry. He referred to the third paragraph under C. Overall
Requirements, and suggested that the words "(other than Math 101)"
should be deleted. The Chairman agreed that these words should be
struck.
An amendment was moved by T. Mallinson, "That for the following
courses for which Psychology 101 is shown as a single prerequisite,
Psychology 105-3 be an alternative prerequisite: Psychology 302, 303,
304, 320, 335, 345, 351, 355, 360, 370 and 380." When D. Birch offered
information to the effect that a meeting of representatives of the
Faculty of Education and the Psychology Department would be discussing
this matter, T. Mallinson withdrew his motion.
K. Rieckhoff, recalling that, as all the amendments to Section c)
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of Paper S.72-13 had failed, the main motion was to be considered, and
he suggested that the program would have less value to students under
the proposed offering than as originally offered.
Question was called on Motion c) of Paper S.72-13, and a vote
taken.
MOTION CARRIED
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2 opposed
Question was called on Motion d) of Paper S.72-13 - Changes in
Titles, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
During discussion of Motion e) of Paper S.72-13, R. Jennings
pointed out an editorial discrepancy in utilizing the word "Recommended"
rather than the usual "Prerequisite" in connection with 210-3 - Data
Analysis in Psychology, and the Chairman suggested that this was a
matter which could be resolved by the Department.
Question was called on Motion e) of Paper S.72-13 - Calendar Entry,
and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
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5. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
2. Senate Graduate Studies Committee
Paper S.72-4 - New Graduate Course Proposal - Archaeology
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.72-4,
the new Archaeology courses:
Archaeology 871-5 - Selected Topics in
Archaeological Theory
Archaeology 875-5 - Seminar in Fossil Man
Archaeology 897-5 - Field Work Seminar."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-5 - New Graduate Course Proposal - Geography
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in Paper
S.72-5, the new courses:
Geography 823-3 - Themes in the Geography of Canada
Geography 824-5 - Themes in the Geography of Canada."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-6 - New Graduate Course Proposal - History
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by I. Mugridge,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in Paper
S.72-6, the new course, History 897-5 -
Supervised Readings."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-7 - New Graduate Course Proposal - Linguistics
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
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"That Senate approve, as set forth in Paper
S.72-7 the new course, Linguistics 897-5 -
Introductory Graduate Seminar in Linguistics."
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K. Rieckhoff enquired if the specification contained in the
paper relating to five graduate credit hours In addition to the
30 hours work required to receive an M.A. would form part of the
calendar entry, and J. Wheatley assured him that It would.
C. Basham enquired why the course was not offered at the under-
graduate level, and was informed that this was a special course
offered only to qualifying students with insufficient background in
linguistics to allow them to begin their studies at the graduate
level. R. Jennings added that undergraduate courses covering the
same material are not offered as frequently as it is intended this
one will be. C. Basham then questioned the rationale for requiring
five credit hours with no credit.
Amendment was moved by G. Basham, seconded by I. Allen,
"That 'five credit hours' be deleted and
the course be assigned zero credit hours."
A. Lachlan spoke against the amendment, stating that there was
psychological benefit in offering such a course at the graduate
level with credit hours.
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT FAILED
Discussion turned on the 800 series proposed for this course,
and the Chairman expressed the opinion that the course should reflect
the level at which it is being taught rather than the level of the
student who enrolls in the course. J. Wheatley said he would negotiate
with the Department in order to establish a satisfactory number, pro-
vided the Registrar could give assurance that there would be no com-
plications resulting from such action.
Question was called on the main motion, Including the proviso
that a suitable number for the course would be negotiated with the
Department of Modern Languages, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
It was noted that the reference to "challenge" does not suggest
the entry of challenge with credit as applies to undergraduate courses.
(Note: A new number has since been established as 700-5 -
Introductory Graduate Seminar in Linguistics.)
Paper S.72-8 - New Graduate Course Proposal - Psychology
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Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by T. Mallinson,
"That Senate approve, as set forth in S.72-8,
the new course, Psychology 785-5 - Animal
Behaviour."
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A. Turnbull objected to identical courses being taught at
different levels in different Faculties.
Moved by A. Turnbull, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Paper S.72-8 be referred back to the
Senate Graduate Studies Committee in order
that they hold consultation with the Biology
Department before the course goes forward."
D. Sullivan pointed out that there was also a fairly similar
course and seminar at the undergraduate level in the Psychology.
Department, but that there was also a rather intensive Ph.D. program
in Psychology which had been in effect for the past six years.
A. Turnbull expressed the opinion that there Is considerable
overlap between psychology and animal behaviour, and said he believed
a principle was being developed wherein a course taught in one 'depart-
ment could be considered a different subject in another department
when it was being taught by, for instance, a biologist rather than a
psychologist. He said this principle could be of assistance when
establishing the programs to be developed in the proposed Social
Relations Department.
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Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO REFER FAILED
7 in favor
8 opposed
J. Wheatley said he would investigate the duplication, if any,
of the courses offered at the undergraduate level in Biology and the
graduate level in Psychology, and attempt to resolve the problem.
Question was called on the main motion, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-9 - Graduate Calendar Entry - Department of Mathematics
B. Wilson noted that the Senate Agenda Committee was of the
opinion that Senate should undertake formal action to initiate calendar
changes which are forwarded to Senate for information.
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by K. Rleckhoff,
"Language requirements (page 139, paragraph 3,
1971-72 Calendar):
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That the following sentence be deleted:
'Students will normally be required to obtain
language qualification for two approved
languages other than English.'
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That the following paragraph replace the
sentence deleted:
'Candidates for the Ph.D. degree will
normally be required to demonstrate pro-
ficiency in reading mathematical papers
in either French, German, or Russian.
A student may be required by his super-
visory Committee to acquire proficiency
in an additional language, not necessarily
French, German or Russian, which has
special relevance for the student's program."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
At this point the Chairman noted that the weather conditions.
were apparently very bad and that the North Shore roads were
reported to be almost impassable. He suggested that items sub-
mitted by the Senate Library Committee could be deferred, but
A. Lachlan felt that the Library Committee matters were urgent
due to a considerable backlog of appeals having built up. A straw
vote was taken, which resulted in
' areetnent to proceed with the
recommendations of the Senate Librdy Committee in order of their
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presentation.
3. Senate Library Committee
Paper S.72-10 - Recommended Change to Library Loan Policy
Moved byA. Lachlan, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That Senate approve change, as set forth
in Paper S.72-10, to page 4, sentence 1, of
Paper S.71-86 under Schedule of Penalties
by inserting the words '$5.00 per day and a
total maximum of' between the words 'maximum
of ... $25.00, but,
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-11 - Terms of Appointment for Senate Members of the
Senate Library-Committee
Moved
by A. Lachlan, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That the term of office of Senators on the
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Senate Library Committee be for two years and
that at the next election of Senate Members,
one Senator be electrd for two years and two
Senators be elected for one year."
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Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
Paper S.72-12 - Library Penalties Appeal Committee
Moved by A. Lachlan, seconded by P. Wagner,
"That Senate approve the establishment of
the following Committee, as set forth in
Paper S.72-12, effective immediately:
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Library Penalties Appeal Committee.
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Standing Committee reporting to
Senate Library Committee.
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To consider cases wherein an
individual feels that he is un-
justly penalized for an infraction
of the Library Loan Policy and to
make the final decision.
MEMBERSHIP Chairman, Senate Library Committee (voting)
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Ombudsman, Student Society (voting)
Head, Loan Division, University Library (voting)
PROCEDURE Any individual who is aggrieved by the
decision of the Loan Division of the
Library concerning penalties may petition,
in writing, to the Head of the division
that his case be considered by the Library
Penalties Appeal Committee. The individual
will be notified by letter/telephone of the
date of the meeting and may speak to the
Committee on his grievance. The Loan
Division will provide documentation for the
Library and the individual may contest the
evidence or enter any circumstances that
may be germane. The decision of the
Committee is final.
Penalties imposed will not be suspended while an appeal
is waiting to be heard by the Committee, but fines which
have been paid and which are subsequently deemed unfair
by the Committee will be refunded."
A. Lachlan asked for a ruling on the interpretation of "student
parity." K. Rieckhoff expressed the opinion that it was intended there
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be equal number of students to non students, and that the motion was
not in order as it was contrary to a previous motion of Senate that
there be student parity on this particular Committee. He requested a
ruling from the Chair. The Chairman ruled that within the context of
the previous motion student parity would be interpreted as an equal
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Snumber of students to others on the Committee. A. Lachlan challenged
the ruling of the Chair, and the assembly voted contrary to the ruling.
Amendment was moved by G. Basham, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That the membership as proposed be deleted
and the following substituted as an interim
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Two faculty members elected by and from the
Senate Library Committee;
Chairman of the Senate Library Committee;
One student Senator to be elected by and from
the Senate Library Committee or to be appointed
by the Senate if there is not a student on the
Library Committee;
One student appointed by the Student Society;
Head of the Loans Division, or designate (non-voting)."
The Chairman noted that the amendment would provide a parity
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Committee which was in line with the overruled definition of student
parity. I.Allen suggested that Senate should establish a reasonable
constitution for the Committee, whether or not it took into considera-
tion either definition of student parity. The Chairman agreed that
this could be done, as Senate was at liberty to act in whatever manner
it chose regarding composition of the Committee.
G. Basham proposed that his amendment be altered to designate
that the Chairman of the Senate Library Committee be a non-voting
Chairman of the Library Penalties Appeal Committee. A. Lachlan asked
that the amendment be ruled out of order because it was directly
opposed to the motion that had come forward from the Senate Library
Committee. The Chairman declined, as the Senate Library Committee
motion involved a variety of objectives, including membership, and the
change was incorporated.
A. Turnbull outlined his experience in the same type of Committee
as proposed, wherein equal numbers of students to faculty brought about
an impasse which could only be resolved by manipulation of the vote,
until Senate modified the voting procedures to permit the chairman to
vote to break a tie.
Moved by J. Wheatley, seconded by T. Nallinson,
"That Paper S.72-12 be referred back to
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the Senate Library Committee for study
and further report."
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C. Basham spoke against referral, stressing it was essential to
allow the Committee to commence its work on the cases already back-
logged, and asked that Senate give direction to the Committee.
A. Lachlan stated that he would like to table the whole matter, if
this were possible, in order that the Senate Library Committee might
proceed with the implementation of previous Senate instructions.
I. Allen said his concern was that if the paper were withdrawn, given
the interpretation of parity held by the Chairman of the Senate Library
Committee, the previous Senate motion would be circumvented.
In reply to a question posed by Do Birch, the Chairman stated
that it would be in order to refer the paper and then provide instruc-
tions to the Committee to which it was referred.
Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO REFER FAILED
A. Lachlan then asked the Chair to rule the Basham amendment out
of order, but the Chairman declined. C. Basham asked the Secretary of
Senate to state his ruling on positive motions and that such statement
be recorded in the minutes. H. Evans explained that the making of a
negative motion which was defeated did not result in the positive state
of the motion as other motions could be made following such defeat.
An amendment to the amendment was moved by I. Allen, seconded by
T. Mallinson,
"That the present non-voting chairman
vote in cases of a tie."
A. Turnbull expressed the opinion that the amendment to the amend-
ment would not substantially change the situation, and B. Wilson said
it was important to note that faculty would be likely to be involved as
often as students in appeals to the Library Penalties Appeal Committee.
Question was called on the amendment to the amendment, and a vote
taken.
AMENDMENT TO THE
AMENDMENT CARRIED
An amendment to the amendment was moved by J. Wheatley, seconded
by G. Donetz,
"That the Chairman of the Committee cease
to be the officer that is now named but be
a graduate student appointed by the Dean
of Graduate Studies."
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SJ. Wheatley stated that by naming a graduate student as Chairman
of the Committee, his intention was to designate a graduate student
selected by students on the Senate Graduate Studies Committee, and
this would also be an interim measure. G. Basham objected to such a
method of selecting the Chairman, and asserted that the selection
mechanisms of the Senate Appeals Board should be duplicated in this
instance.
Question was called on the amendment to the amendment, and a vote
taken.
AMENDMENT TO THE
AMENDMENT CARRIED
Question was then called on the amended amendment to the motion
which would provide membership of the Library Penalties Appeal Com-
mittee comprising:
One Graduate student appointed by the Dean of Graduate
Studies - Chairman (non-voting except in case of a tie);
Two faculty members elected by and from the Senate Library
Committee;
One student Senator to be elected by and from the Senate
Library Committee or to be appointed by the Senate if
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there is not a student on the Library Committee;
One student appointed by the Student Society;
Head of the Loans Division, or designate (non-voting).
AMENDED AMENDMENT CARRIED
Question was then called on Paper S.72-12 as amended, and a vote
taken.
AMENDED MOTION CARRIED
6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES AND DIVISIONS
Education
Paper S.72-17 - Summer Semester Courses - 1972
Moved by D. Birch, seconded by T. Mallinson,
"That Senate authorize the offering of the
following courses, as set forth in Paper
S.72-17, in the eight week period from
May 8th to June 30th, 1972:
PDC 461-4 Seminar: Trends and Developments
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in Educational Practice
Group (1) * Integrating the Curri-
culum in Elementary Schools
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PDC 471-4 Seminar: Curriculum: Theory and
Application
Group (1) * Integrating the Curri-
culum in Elementary Schools
*These two courses must be taken in conjunction
with each other.
PDC 461-4 Seminar: Trends and Developments in
Educational Practice
Group (2) Teaching Young Children
PDC 481-4 Directed Study
PDC 491-4 Special Topics: Human Relations
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Skills in Teaching."
Question was called, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
7. OTHER BUSINESS
1.
Notices of Motion
There were no notices of motion.
2.
Date of Next Meeting
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It was noted that the next meeting of Senate is scheduled for
Monday, February 7, 1972.
3.
Other Items
There were no other items.
4.
Confidential Matters
The meeting recessed briefly at 11:48 p.m. prior to moving into
Closed Session.
H. M. Evans
Secretary
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