DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE 

MINUTES OF MEETING OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY 

HELD MONDAY, JANUARY 18. 1971. EAST CONCOURSE CAFETERIA, 7:30 P.M. 

OPEN SESSION 

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Strand,-K. T. ? 

Chairman 

Baird, D. A. 

Basham, G. D. 

Birch, D. R. 

Bradley, R. D. 

Brown, R. C. 

Burstein, K. R. 

Campbell, M. J. 

Caple, K. P. 

Claridge, R. W. 

Donetz, G. 

Funt, B. L. 

Harper, R.J.C. 

Lachlan, A. H. 

McAninch, J. R. 

Mugridge, I. 

O'Connell, N. S. 

Pate, B. D. 

Reid, W. D. 

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Rieckhoff, K. E. 

Rogow, R. 

Stratton, S. T. 

Sullivan, D. H. 

Sutherland, G. A. 

Turnbull, A. L. 

Vidaver, W. E. 

Webster, J. M. 

Weinberg, H. 

Wilson, B. G. 

Evans, H. M. 

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Secretary 

Kelsey, I. B. 

Norsworthy, Mrs. R. ? 

Recording Secretary 

ABSENT: 

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Drache, Mrs. S. 

Ellis, J. F. 

Freiman, Mrs. L. 

Hamilton, C. L. 

Hamilton, W. M. 

Hodge, F. 

McDougall, A. H. 

Salter, J. 

IN ATTENDANCE: 

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Chase, J. 

Meakin, D. 

• (This meeting was originally scheduled for January 11, 1971, but 

was postponed to January 18, 1971 because of adverse weather 

conditions.) 

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The Chairman welcomed Senator W. D. Reid upon his first attendance 

at Senate since his appointment by Order-in-Council. 

1.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA 

The agenda was approved as circulated. 

2.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES 

The minutes of the Open Session of December 7, 1970 were approved 

as distributed. 

3.

BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES 

There was no business arising from the minutes. 

4.

REPORT OF CHAIRMAN 

Paper S.71-1 - Revision - "Selection of a Dean's Search Committee" 

The Chairman drew attention to the numbering system which had 

been adopted to assist in the indexing of Senate papers. 

Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by D. Sullivan, 

"That Section III A, 2b of Paper S.380 be 

amended by adding the words 'and the Dean 

of Graduate Studies." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

5.

REPORTS OF COMMITTEES 

1. Senate Nominating Committee 

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er S.71-2 - Election of Senators to Board of Governors 

Candidates in the election of three Senators at large to the 

Board of Governors to replace M. Collins, A.F.C. Hean, and J. K. 

Kenward for the remainder of their terms of office to May 31, 1972 

were G. D. Basham, R. W. Claridge, G. Donetz, L. Freiman, F. Hodge, 

and G. A. Sutherland. 

It was noted that the Senate Nominating Committee had submitted 

the names of G. D. Basham, R. W. Claridge, and G. A. Sutherland, and 

that additional names had been submitted by individual Senators. 

These included G. Donetz (nominated by Senator Basham), 

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Freiman (nominated by Senator Drache), and F. Hodge (nominated by 

Senators Basham and Ellis). 

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Following balloting, the following individuals were declared 

elected: 

G. D. BASHAM 

F. HODGE 

C. A. SUTHERLAND 

2. Academic Planning Committee 

1. Paper S.71-3 - Canadian Studies Prograr - Organization and 

Implementation 

Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That 1. Responsibility for the program rest 

in the Division of General Studies with its 

organization and administration reflecting 

the principles contained in Section 3A of 

Senate Paper S.424. 

2. The implementation date be May 1, 

1971." 

C. Basham objected to the composition of the proposed Steering 

Committee in that there was no student representation despite a 

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motion which had been passed at the December 7, 1970 meeting of? 

Senate. B. Wilson stated that the Academic Planning Committee had 

considered this matter seriously and agreed that students should be 

involved in consideration of curriculum and several other areas, but 

not in responsibilities regarding admissions, appointment and budget 

recothmendations or submission of names of candidates for degrees. 

The Chairman ruled that at the December meeting the first part of 

the divided question had passed, but that the second part, which 

included the motion to include students, had been referred back. 

Considerable discussion followed on exactly what Paper S.424 

encompassed with regard to composition of the Steering Committee and 

the overall organizational plan for the program. It was felt by 

several Senators that more detailed information on these aspects must 

be brought before Senate by the Academic Planning Committee before 

Senate should approve organization and implementation of the program. 

Amendment moved by G. Basham, seconded by R. McAninch, 

"That Section 1 of the motion contained in 

Paper S.71-3 be amended by adding to the 

wording, 'but that the Steering Committee 

is to include three students, one from each 

Faculty. "' 

After further discussion, the mover, with the concurrence of the 

seconder, agreed to withdraw the paper. 

MOTION ON PAPER 71-3 

WITHDRAWN 

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2. Paper S.71-4 -. Definition of Minor Program 

Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by D. Birch, 

"That Senate define a minor program in the 

following manner: 14-18 upper division 

credit hours in a subject area with the 

distribution of those upper division hours 

and the establishment of the number and 

nature of lower division requirements to 

be left to the discretion of program com- 

mittees in the Division of General Studies, 

individual Departments, or Faculties." 

B. Wilson drew attention to a paper (subsequently numbered 

S.71-29) which had been distributed prior to convening of the 

meeting, pertaining to the meaning of "level" and "division." 

He also noted possible conflict between Paper S.71-4 and one to 

be presented by the Faculty of Arts, numbered 5.71-14, which 

might require alteration to provide uniformity with the decision 

Senate would be making in connection with Paper S.71-14. 

D. Sullivan urged that a committee be formed, such as a 

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proposed Senate Undergraduate Curriculum Committee, to review? 

such matters to prevent conflict in regulations across Faculties 

and Divisions of the University, with regard to requirements and 

related items of concern in the University. 

'Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by B. Wilson, 

"That Paper S.71-4 be postponed until such 

time as Senate acts upon a mechanism for 

the coordination of Faculty and interdiscip- 

linary degree requirements, and with the 

Academic Planning Committee being charged 

with the responsibility to bring forward a 

proposed mechanism." 

Senator Burstein stated that such an assignment had already 

been given by Senate to another of its Committees and that it was 

not wise to now refer this item to another Committee. 

Question was called on the motion to postpone, and a vote 

taken. 

MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILED 

11 in favor 

11 opposed 

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Question was called on the main motion, defining a minor 

program, and a vote taken. 

MAIN MOTION CARRIED 

18 in favor 

(Note: The section on page 2 of Paper S.71-4 under implementation 

indicates the following:- 

Within the overall guidelines set out above, program 

committees in the Division of General Studies, individual 

Departments or Faculties will be responsible for formula- 

ting the requirements for a minor in their particular 

discipline or subject area and forwarding their proposal 

through established channels to Senate for its approval. 

The identification of those courses which constitute a 

subject area will be left to the discretion of individual 

Departments.) 

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3. Paper S.71-5 - Double Minor Degree 

Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by I. Mugridge, 

"That Senate approve the introduction of a 

Double Minor Degree: that a minor be defined 

as 14-18 upper division credit hours in a 

subject area; that upon successful completion 

of this program, the Bachelors Degree awarded 

to the individual to be determined according 

to the Faculty in which the student has taken 

the majority of his upper division work; that 

a student be required to obtain at least one 

of his two minors in that Faculty in which his 

degree is to be obtained; his other minor may 

be within or without the Faculty in which his 

degree is to be obtained but in any case will 

require the approval of the Faculty expected 

to grant the degree." 

B. Wilson accepted a suggestion by A. Lachlan that the word 

"majority" be deleted and the words "largest number of credit hours" 

substituted. As there was no objection, the Chair ruled this sub- 

stitution acceptable. B. Wilson noted that upper division means 

courses numbered 300 and above. 

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D. Sullivan spoke against the motion as he felt that a 

principle would be introduced which would permit the granting of 

a degree by a Faculty in which the least number of credit hours 

work had been taken by an individual. 

With the concurrence of the seconder, the mover of the motion 

deleted the words, "his other minor may be within or without the 

Faculty in which his degree is to be obtained but in any case will 

require the approval of the Faculty expected to grant the degree." 

As there was no objection, the Chair accepted this deletion. 

Question was called on the motion, including the substitution 

and the deletion, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

The motion as approved by Senate in connection with Paper 

S.71-5 reads as follows: 

"That Senate approve the introduction of a Double 

Minor Degree: that a minor be defined as 14-18 

upper division credit hours in a subject area; that 

upon successful completion of this program, the 

Bachelors Degree awarded to the individual to be 

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determined according to the Faculty in which the 

student has taken the largest number of credit hours 

of his upper division work; that a student be re- 

quired to obtain at least one of his two minors in 

that Faculty in which his degree is to be obtained." 

(Dean Stratton indicated that Senate earlier had approved a minor 

of 15 hours for the Faculty of Education and enquired of the 

Chairman if this could be accepted as 14-18 hours. The Chairman 

responded that in this particular case the 14-18 hours could be 

used.) 

3. Senate Committee on Graduate Studies 

1. Paper S.71-6 - Discontinuance of Senate Committee on Graduate 

Admissions 

Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That the Senate Committee on Graduate Admissions 

be discontinued." 

J. Webster explained that 95% of the applications for graduate 

work were handled by the Registrar's Office, and the remaining 5% 

were accumulated until sufficient were on hand to justify the calling 

of a meeting of the 

ing in considerable 

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Senate Committee on Graduate Admissions, result- 

delay which could be avoided if the function 

the Executive Committee of the Senate Committee 

(with the latter Committee to be named in future 

ttee of the Senate Graduate Studies Committee). 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

2.

Paper S.71-7 - Terms of Reference for Senate Graduate Studies 

Committee and Executive Committee of Senate Graduate Studies 

Committee 

Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Senate approve the terms of reference of 

the Senate Graduate Studies Committee and the 

Executive Committee of the Senate Graduate 

Studies Committee, as outlined in Paper S.71-7." 

In reply to a question by R. McAninch, J. Webster stated that 

consideration was being given for some graduate student representation 

either on the Senate Graduate Studies Committee or in an advosiry 

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scapacity outside the Committee. 

Amendment was moved by R. Bradley, seconded by R. McAninch, 

"That the terms of reference of the Executive Committee of the 

Senate Graduate Studies Committee, clause b, be amended to read, 

'To Interpret and implement Senate's policy on admission and other 

matters pertaining to graduate studies. '" When J. Webster pointed 

out that the Committee was charged with ensuring Senate standards 

and making recommendations to appropriate bodies as outlined in 

clause c, the amendment was withdrawn. 

Question was called to approve the revised terms of reference, 

and a vote taken. (The motion includes a slight change in names of 

the Committees.) 

MOTION CARRIED 

3.

New Course Proposals 

Arts 

Paper S.71-8 - Economics 811-5; 900-0 

Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

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"That Economics 811-5 - Advanced Monetary 

Theory, and 900-0 - Economics Research Work- 

shop, as outlined in Paper S.71-8, be 

approved." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

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Pater S.71-9 - English 841-5, 842-5, 843-5 

Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That English 841-5 - Directed Readings A, 842-5 - 

Directed Readings B, and 843-5 - Directed Readings 

C, as outlined in Paper S.71-9, be approved." 

K. Burstein raised the question of number of courses, why 

Directed Studies, Directed Readings, and other such courses in a 

particular Department, could not use the same course number and 

avoid the proliferation of courses and numbers. K. Rieckhoff 

referred to the greater flexibility, reduction of doubt on trans- 

cripts, differences in work, and other items. The Chairman stated 

that upon receipt of a specific written request for the information, 

he would see that the required information was supplied by letter. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

Paper S.71-10 - Geography 809-5 

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Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Geography 809-5 - Theoretical and 

Quantitative Cartography, as outlined in 

Paper S.71-10, be approved." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

Paper S.71-11 - Linguistics 850-3, 851-3, 855-5 

Moved by J. Webster, seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Linguistics 850-3 - Graduate Seminar 

in Second Language Acquisition, 851-3 - 

Graduate Seminar in Experimental Design 

for the Applied Linguist, and 855-5 - 

Applied Linguistics I, as outlined in 

Paper S.71-11, be approved." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

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Education 

Paper S.71-12 - P.D.C. 807-5, 808-5 

Moved by J. Webster, seconded by S. Stratton, 

"That P.D.C. 807-5 - Special Topics, and 

808-5 - Special Topics, as outlined in 

Paper S.71-12, be approved." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES 

1. Arts 

1. Paper S.71-13 - Upper Level Electives for B.A. Degree 

D. Sullivan referred to the policy statement of the Faculty 

of Arts and explained that the Registrar had suggested revision 

which would clarify the language and remove some conflict without 

changing the intent. 

Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded 1)(y I. Mugridge, 

"That in the upper levels a student may use 

for credit towards the Bachelor of Arts degree 

no more than 15 hours in the Faculty of 

Education and/or the Faculty of Science. Within 

these limitations a student may take any credit 

course approved by Senate at SFU as an elective 

in his Bachelor of Arts degree, excluding 

Education 401-8, 402-7 and 405-15." 

Amendment was suggested by B. Wilson that in the first 

sentence after the word "degree," the following words be added, 

"with a major subject declared." As there was no objection, the 

Chairman ruled the words included. 

W. Vidaver objected to limiting elective programs to specific 

hours for degree purposes within the Faculty of Arts. The Secretary 

drew attention to the present calendar regulations within the 

Faculties. Considerable debate was undertaken. On a motion by 

L. Funt, seconded by C. Donetz, Senate recessed for five minutes, 

and reconvened at 10:00 p.m. 

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Moved by G. Basham, seconded by K. Burstein, 

"That Paper S.71-13 be tabled." 

Question was called on the motion to table, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO TABLE FAILED 

8 in favor 

8 opposed 

Moved by C. Basham, seconded by C. Donetz, 

"That Paper S.71-13 be postponed until 

the March meeting of Senate." 

S. Stratton and D. Sullivan noted that the regulation proposed 

was less restrictive in many ways than current regulations, and •argued 

against postponement. 

Question was called on the motion to postpone, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILED 

9 in favor 

11 opposed 

Considerable discussion followed on transfer credit for courses 

in Education. D. Birch informed Senators that for some time there 

had been no provision for transfer of any course in Education and 

that this matter was one of the major concerns of the Faculty of 

Education Undergraduate Studies Committee. In response to a question 

to the Chairman, he indicated belief that if a transfer course was 

considered equivalent to a course at this institution it would carry 

such equivalent credit. 

Question was called on the following motion on upper level 

electives for the Faculty of Arts, and a vote taken. 

"In the upper levels a student may use for 

credit towards the Bachelor of Arts degree, 

with a major subject declared, no more than 

15 hours in the Faculty of Education and/or 

the Faculty of Science. Within these limita- 

tions a student may take any credit course 

approved by Senate at SFU as an elective in 

his Bachelor of Arts degree, excluding 

Education 401-8, 402-7 and 405-15." 

NOTION CARRIED 

12 in favor 

9 opposed 

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B.A. Degree 

Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by H. Weinberg, 

"That Paper S.71-14, relating to double major, 

major/minor, and joint majors for the B.A. 

degree, be referred to the Academic Planning 

Committee, to be brought back after a sufficient 

proposal has been devised to meet the University 

wide need relating to majors and minors." 

Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO REFER CARRIED 

3. Curriculum and Calendar Changes 

Paper 5.71-15 - English 441-3, 442-2, 443-3, 444-2, 

445-3 

Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by I. Mugridge, 

"That English 441-3 - Directed Studies A, 

442-2.- Directed Studies B, 443-3 - Directed 

Readings A, 444-2 - Directed Readings B, 

445-3 - Directed Research A, and 446-2 - 

Directed Research B, as outlined in Paper 

S.71-15, be approved." 

L. Funt enquired whether these could constitute an Individual 

Study Semester, and the Dean of Arts indicated this was not the 

intent. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

Paper S.71-16 - DML - Linguistics 100-3, Literature 140-3; 

141-3; German 450-3 

Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by R. Harper, 

"That Linguistics 100-3 - Communication and 

Language; Literature 140-3 - Introduction to 

General Literature, 141-3 - A Survey of 

General Literature; and German 450-3 - 

Current Topics in German Literature, as out- 

lined in Paper S.71-16, be approved." 

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Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

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Paper S.71-17 - Deferred Grades 

Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by R. Brown, 

"That Paper S.71-17 - Deferred Grades, be 

referred to the Academic Planning Committee, 

to be brought back after an appropriate 

mechanism has been devised to meet the 

University wide need relating to deferred 

grades." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO REFER CARRIED 

2. Education 

Paper S.71-18 - Education 403 and B-Ed. Requirements 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by M. Campbell, 

"That Senate approve that for those students 

who fulfilled requirements for Education 403-0, 

that the requirements for the B.Ed. degree be 

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Education 403-0 and 135 semester hours of 

appropriate course work. Such work must include 

Education 401, 402 and 404 and must fulfill all 

current requirements for the B.Ed. including 

requirements for a minor." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

7. OTHER BUSINESS 

1.

Notices of Motion 

There were no notices of motion. 

2. Date of Next Meeting 

It was noted that the date of the next Senate meeting is 

scheduled for Monday, February 1, 1971. 

3.

Other Items 

a) Paper S.71-29 - Levels and Divisions 

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The Chairman referred to a paper, including examples of usage 

of terminology, which had been distributed earlier in the evening 

(subsequently numbered S.71-29), and it was agreed that the matter 

could be considered at this time. 

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Moved by B. Wilson,' seconded by K. Rieckhoff, 

"That Senate approve the word 'level' to 

refer to the status of an individual 

student's program, and the word 'division' 

be restricted to the description of under- 

graduate courses • 

B. Wilson stated that there was no intent in the motion to 

create further restrictions on graduation, but it was hoped that 

uniformity could be established throughout the University with 

regard to the use of these terms, to bring clarity to regulations. 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

b) Paper S.71-19 - Annual Report on University's Financial 

This item was distributed with the agenda for information. 

4. Confidential Matters 

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The meeting recessed briefly at 11:12 p.m. prior to moving 

into Closed Session. 

H. M. Evans 

Secretary 