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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE 

MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY? 

HELD MONDAY. MARCH 16. 1970. FACULTY LOUNGE. 7:30 P.M. 

OPEN SESSION 

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PRESENT: ? Strand, K. T. 

Baird, D. A. 

Bradley, R. D. 

Burstein, K. R. 

Carlson, R. L. 

Cole, R. E. 

Funt, B. L. 

Kenward, J. K. 

Kirchner, C. 

Lachlan, A. H. 

Rogow, R. 

Srivastava, L. M. 

Stratton, S. T. 

Sullivan, D. H. 

Vidaver, W. E. 

Walkley, J. 

Evans, H. M. 

Kelsey, I. B. 

Barboza, Miss J. 

Norsworthy, Mrs. R. 

ABSENT: ? Brown, R. C. 

Campbell, M. J. 

Caple, K. P. 

Claridge, R. W. 

Collins, M. 

Drache, Mrs. S. 

Freiman, 

Mrs. 

L.

Hamilton, W. M. 

Hean, A.F.C. 

Hutchinson, J. F. 

Lebowitz, M. A. 

McDougall, A. H. 

McLean, C. H. 

Perry, G. N,. 

Sayre, J. 

Turnbull, A. L. 

Wassermann, Mrs. S. 

Webster, J. M. 

Chairman 

Secretary 

Recording Secretary 

Recording Secretary 

In attendance: Mrs. N. Baird, Centre for Communications and the Arts; 

F. J. Brown, Behavioural Science Foundations; J. Chase, Academic Planner; 

L. Davies, Athletics and Recreational Services; G. R. Eastwood, Social 

and Philosophical Foundations; T. J. Mallinson, Centre for Communications 

and the Arts. 

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Note: For reference convenience two papers from the President, 

distributed at the commencement of the meeting, have been 

numbered:- 

S.348c - Faculty of Education - For Information only. 

S.348d - Re-organization - Educational Foundations Centre. 

The Chairman opened the meeting with a brief statement on the 

proposed reorganization within the Faculty of Education and the 

proposed organization for the University as a whole, with special 

reference to the appointment of an additional Vice-President to be 

termed, at least for the time being, Vice-President for University 

and Community Services. The Chairman pointed out that under the 

University organization as a whole, as presented in Paper S.345, it 

was suggested there would be three main areas which would come under 

the jurisdiction of the new Vice-President's office. These were to 

include Public Relations, University Services and General Studies. 

It was into this third area of General Studies that some of the areas 

to be discussed in the reorganization of the Faculty of Education 

might be placed. The Chairman pointed out also that these areas, 

including a Division of General Studies, have been approved by the 

Board of Governors, but it was up to Senate to decide whether or not 

it wished certain items now appearing in the overall programs in the 

Faculty of Education to be deposited in the area of General Studies, 

such as Athletics, Recreation, and an Art Centre. 

The Chairman then asked that Senate now consider the proposed 

reorganization of the Faculty of Education as presented in Papers 

S.348a, S.348b, S.348c and S.348d. The Chairman pointed out that 

there were three motions contained in Paper S.348a, which Senate 

would examine first, two amendments which were presented in Paper 

S.348c, five motions in Paper S.348b, and a motion proposed by the 

Chairman himself as stated in Paper S.348d. 

1. Paper S.348a - Reorganization of Faculty of Education relating to the 

Arts Program in the Centre for Communications and the Arts, Athletic 

and Recreational Services in the Physical Development Centre and the 

Kinesiology Program in the Physical Development Centre. 

Moved by L. Srivastava, seconded by J. Walkley (Motion 1, S.348a), 

"that Senate accept the separation of the Arts 

program from the present Centre for Communications 

and the Arts and establish it as a program in the 

proposed division of General Studies." 

At this point S. Stratton, Acting Dean of Education, asked that 

the resource persons from the Faculty of Education, who had come to 

the meeting to answer questions and comment on certain sections of the 

proposed reorganization of the Faculty of Education, be called upon to 

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answer to a number of the items under discussion. Senators agreed 

to this request and later Senator Stratton introduced the resource 

people as Mrs. N. Baird, Centre for Communications and the Arts; 

F. J. Brown, Behavioural Science Foundations; L. Davies, Athletics 

and Recreational Services; G. R. Eastwood, Social and Philosophical 

Foundations; and T. J. Mallinson, Centre for Communications and the 

Arts. 

It was then proposed that Senators ask a series of questions 

which they had on the item under discussion and that the questions 

would be answered by appropriate persons at the conclusion of the 

question period. 

Numerous questions were asked by Senators including items on 

the creation of a Division of General Studies, on the placement of 

the Arts Centre and program in the Division of General Studies, on 

where the Arts Centre would be placed if there was not a Division 

of General Studies, on what the rationale was for taking Arts Out 

of its present setting, on whether there was a change from credit 

programs to non-credit programs, on what would happen to the "occasion- 

al student." 

It was pointed out from the Chair that provision already exists 

for the Division of General Studies and that the Arts Centre could be 

housed here when this has been set up administratively under the 

office of the new Vice-President, that it was important for the Arts 

Centre to serve the entire University and that it could best do this 

in the Division of General Studies as opposed to its present position 

in the Faculty of Education, and that programs currently offered are 

non-credit courses. This policy of offering 

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programs as non-credit 

courses will continue, and "occasional students" will continue under 

the present arrangement. 

Amendment moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by J. Walkley, 

"that the following statement be added to the 

main motiofi:- 

'contingent upon passage by Senate of a detailed 

description of the organization and function of the 

Arts Centre in the University General Studies 

program." 

It was asked that the amendment be ruled out of order because it 

was not Senate's responsibility to deal with administration of a non- 

academic program and that this responsibility belonged to the 

Administrative Offices of the University. The Chair ruled the motion 

out of order, with the ruling being challenged. The ruling of the 

Chair was sustained with 8 in favor and 4 opposed. 

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Amendment moved by K. Burstein, seconded by D. Sullivan, 

"that the following statement be added to the 

main motion:- 

'contingent upon the appointment of a Vice- 

President for University and Community Services, 

or some person to fulfill the functions of that 

office."' 

It was claimed that this motion should be ruled out of order 

on the basis that Senate is not responsible for non-academic programs, 

and that this will become a non-academic program when placed under 

General Studies. Discussion followed on whether or not the Centre for 

Communications and the Arts had been earlier approved as an academic 

program within the Faculty of Education, with it being noted that it 

was a legitimate academic program within the Faculty of Education. 

Debate continued on this point, with the Chairman pointing out that 

the program as presently constituted provides a service to the entire 

University, and that it should therefore come under an all-University 

program rather than remain within a particular Faculty. 

Question was called on the amendment to have the separation and 

establishment contingent on the appointment of an individual to the 

Office of Vice-President of University and Community Services, and a 

vote taken. 

AMENDMENT CARRIED 

6 in favor 

3 opposed 

It was then moved by S. Stratton, seconded by L. Funt, that the 

following two amendments to Motions 1 and 2, contained in Senate Paper 

S.348a be adopted: 

"(a) that until negotiations regarding reclassification 

and changes in terms of tenure procedures have been 

negotiated with the Faculty Association and the Board 

of Governors, that there will be no change in ranking or 

rights and privileges for persons in these areas (Arts 

Centre, and Athletics and Recreational Services). 

(b) that if there is a time lag between the completion 

of the above negotiations and notification of contract 

renewals, that there will be automatic contract renewals 

until the negotiations have been completed." 

However, it was pointed out by the Chairman that these two amendments 

were really conditions which would occur with the passage of Motions 1 

and 2 and that they did not have to be passed as amendments to the 

motions. The amendments were then withdrawn. 

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After further debate on the amended main motion to separate 

Arts from the Centre for Communications and the Arts and to establish 

it as a program in the proposed Division of General Studies, a vote 

was taken. 

AMENDED MOTION CARRIED 

11 in favor 

3 opposed 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by L. Funt (Motion 2, S.348a - 

one word deleted), 

"that Senate accept the separation of the 

Department of Athletic and Recreational 

Services from the Centre for Physical 

Development and include it as a program or 

programs in the proposed Division of General 

Studies." 

Amendment moved by K. Burstein, seconded by J. Kenward, 

"that the following statement be added: 

'contingent upon the appointment of a Vice- 

President for University and Community 

Services, or a person to fulfill the 

functions of that office.'" 

Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT CARRIED 

8 in favor 

2 opposed 

Question was called on the amended main motion, and a vote taken. 

AMENDED MAIN MOTION 

CARRIED 

12 in favor 

2 opposed 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by G. Kirchner (Motion 3, S.348a), 

"that Senate accept the administrative separation 

of Kinesiology from the Physical Development 

Centre and agree to its administration by the Dean 

of Science, Chairman of the Senate Interdisciplinary 

Committee on Kinesiology, until such time as the 

question of the organization and location of inter- 

Faculty programs is finally resolved." 

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Debate on this item centered on the status of faculty members 

currently teaching in this program within the Physical Development 

Centre if the motion passed. After considerable discussion it was 

clarified that the faculty members would retain their present status 

and that faculty members teaching the Kinesiology and Science courses 

related to the Kinesiology degree programs, both Bachelors and 

Masters, would remain in their respective Faculties. It was explained 

that the proposed separation was primarily an administrative separation 

so that the Kinesiology program could be administered by the Senate 

Interdisciplinary Committee on Kinesiology. 

D. Sullivan asked that the motion be ruled out of order because 

of insufficient supporting evidence for the transfer of the Kinesiology 

program from a Department to a Committee, again noting problems of 

faculty status, tenure, appeals, budget. He referred to the nature of 

problems when an administrative separation of Archaeological Studies 

was made. The Chairman refused to rule the motion out of order. 

Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by K. Burstein, 

"that this item be postponed until a detailed 

proposal covering all aspects of administrative 

matters related to this transfer comes before 

Senate." 

After considerable debate, question was called on the motion to 

postpone, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO POSTPONE 

CARRIED 

10 in favor? 

4 opposed 

It was asked at this point who would initiate action to see that 

this information would come before Senate. The Chairman replied that 

he would take appropriate action. 

2. Paper S.348b - Reorganization of the Faculty of Education relating to 

Professional Foundations, Physical Development Studies, Communication 

Studies, and the Educational Foundation Centre as a Centre for Studies 

in Education. 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by G. Kirchner (Motion 1, S.348b), 

"that Senate accept the separation of Professional 

Foundations from the Educational Foundation Centre 

and constitute it as the Professional Development 

Centre according to the principles set out in 

Faculty of Education paper 70#10." 

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Amendment moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by J. Kenward, 

"that the following sentence be added: 

'For the purposes of policies and procedures 

established by the University, where the word 

"Department" is utilized, for the Faculty of 

Education it shall be deemed to refer to 

"Centre". 

Discussion followed on whether or not this change should apply 

only to this motion or whether or not it should apply throughout 

following motions. Opinion was expressed repeatedly that the amend- 

ment apply specifically to Motion 1. Question was called on the 

amendment, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT FAILED 

Amendment moved by K. Burstein, seconded by J. Kenward, 

"that the word 'Department' be substituted 

for the word 'Centre' in this motion after 

the words 'Professional Development." 

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Question was called, and a vote taken. 

AMENDMENT FAILED 

3 in favor 

8 opposed 

Amendment moved by J. Walkley, seconded by J. Kenward, 

"that the following sentence be added to 

the main motion:- 

'For the purposes of policies and procedures 

established by the University, the Professional 

Development Centre shall be considered as a 

Department. 

An amendment to the amendment was moved by L. Srivastava, seconded 

by G. Kirchner, but it was ruled out of order by the Chairman. 

Question was called on the Walkley/Kenward amendment, and a vote 

taken. 

AMENDMENT CARRIED 

7 in favor 

6 opposed 

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At this point Senate discontinued direct discussion on Motion 1, 

amended, of Paper S.348b. 

Moved by L. Funt, seconded by J. Kenward, 

"that Senate consider informally for 30 minutes 

all the remaining items related to Paper S.348b 

and those items related to it as contained in 

Paper S.348d." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO CONSIDER 

INFORMALLY CARRIED 

The Chairman reminded members that he had indicated a change in 

the motion proposed in S.348b, as follows:- 

"For a one year interim period, or until such time 

as a program or programs are approved by Senate - 

whichever occurs earlier: 

a)

continued de facto departmental recognition of 

B.S.F., S.P.F., and C.S. 

b)

reorganization of the three divisions into an 

Educational Foundations Centre with the following 

constraints: 

i.

single undergraduate education committee 

ii.

single graduate education committee 

iii. 

a single spokesman for relations external 

to the Centre." 

Considerable discussion followed on continuing with the present 

organization of the Educational Foundations Centre for a one year 

period and on the need to implement immediately the reorganization of 

the Centre as outlined in Paper S.348b. Numerous questions were 

directed to the resource people at the meeting. A diversity of opinion 

was expressed by these individuals on the need to keep these areas in 

the Foundations Centre separate from one another for the time being. 

At the conclusion of 30 minutes it was moved by K. Burstein, 

seconded by C. Kirchner, 

"that the informal discussion be extended 

15 minutes." 

MOTION CARRIED 

10 in favor 

None opposed 

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At the conclusion of the additional 15 minutes discussion 

returned to Motion 1 of Paper S.348b, which reads as amended: 

"that Senate accept the separation of Professional 

Foundations from the Educational Foundations Centre 

and constitute it as a Professional Development 

Centre according to the principles set out in 

Faculty of Education paper 70#10. For the purposes 

of policies and procedures established by the 

University, the Professional Development Centre 

shall be considered as a Department." 

Question was called on the amended main motion, and a vote 

taken. 

AMENDED MOTION CARRIED 

8 in favor 

None opposed 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by W. Vidaver, 

"that Motion 2 of Paper S.348b be postponed until 

Senate has acted on the previous motion as related 

to Kinesiology as presented in Paper S.348a (Motion 

3), which reads: 'that Senate accept the administra- 

tive separation of Kinesiology from the Physical 

Development Centre and agree to its administration 

by the Dean of Science, Chairman of the Senate 

Interdisciplinary Committee on Kinesiology, until 

such time as the question of the organization and 

location of inter-Faculty programs is finally 

resolved. 

Question was called on the motion to postpone, and a vote taken. 

MOTION TO POSTPONE 

CARRIED 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by D. Kirchner (Motion 3, S.348b), 

"that Senate accept the transfer of programs and 

personnel from the Department of Physical Develop- 

ment to the Professional Development Centre as 

outlined in Faculty of Education Paper 70119." 

Question was called, and, a vote taken. 

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MOTION CARRIED 

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Motion 4 of Paper of Paper S.348b, which reads "that Senate 

accept the formation of Communications Studies as a department and 

that this department be part of the Educational Foundations Centre 

as set out in Faculty of Education paper 70#7," was withdrawn as 

unnecessary. 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by G. Kirchner (Motion 5, S.348b), 

"that Senate accept the reformation of the 

Educational Foundations Centre as a centre 

for studies in education comprised of a union 

of Behavioural Science Foundations, Social 

and Philosophical Foundations and Communications 

Studies, and constituted according to the 

principles set out in Faculty of Education paper 

#70#11." 

("Note re paper #11 - Particular note should be made that Faculty, in 

approving paper #11, did not approve the guidelines for undergraduate 

and graduate programs and wished to stress this point made on page 4 

of the paper.") 

The Chairman ruled that all reference to the tenure committee 

items be struck. 

Amendment was moved by W. Vidaver, seconded by J. Walkley, but 

after lengthy discussion on whether or not the amendment could be 

substituted for the original motion, it was agreed that this amendment 

be withdrawn. 

It was requested at this time that the resource persons present 

be permitted to comment on the motion which was before Senate. As 

there was some objection, the Chair requested a motion be made to 

this effect. 

Moved by S. Stratton, seconded by K. Burstein, 

"that the resource persons present be permitted 

to comment on the motion before Senate." 

Question was called, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

Considerable discussion followed on the reformation of the 

Educational Foundations Centre to include a union of Behavioural 

Science Foundations, Social and Philosophical Foundations and 

Communications Studies. Again differing points of view were expressed 

on whether or not these areas should be united or continue to operate 

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as autonomous entities. Question was called on the motion to accept 

the reformation of the Educational Foundations Centre, and a vote 

was taken. 

MOTION FAILED 

3 in favor 

8 opposed 

Moved by W. Vidaver, seconded by L. Srivastava (Motion, S.348d, 

as changed), 

"For a one year interim period, or until such 

time as a program or programs are approved by 

Senate - whichever occurs earlier: 

a)

continued de facto departmental recognition 

of B.S.F., S.P.F. and C.S. 

b) reorganization of the three divisions into 

an Educational Foundations Centre with the 

following constraints: 

i.

single undergraduate education committee 

ii. single graduate education committee 

iii. 

a single spokesman for relations external 

to the Centre." 

Amendment was moved by K. Burstein "that the single committees 

referred to in b) 1. and ii. of Paper S.348d and as presented in 

the previous motion be single committees and that they be in addition 

to the regular departmental committees." As there was no seconder 

the amendment failed. 

Question was called on the main motion, and a vote taken. 

MOTION CARRIED 

8 in favor 

3 opposed 

3 Adjournment 

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The meeting adjourned at 1:15 a.m. 

H. M. Evans 

Secretary 