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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE

MINUTES OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY

HELD IN THE BOARD AND SENATE ROOM

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1967 AT 7 P.M.

Present:

P.D. McTaggart-Cowan

R.J. Baker

M. Bawtree

D.H. Berg

A.E. Branca

J.L. Dampier

J. F. Ellis

J.S. Foulds

C. J. Frederickson

E.M. Gibson

C. Kirchner

Koerner

M.A. Lebowitz

S.K. Lower

J.W. Matthews

R.N. Maud

G.M. Shrum

D.H. Sullivan

D.C. Tuck

W. Vidaver

J. Walkley

S. Wasserman

S. Wong

S. Yandle

D.P. Robertson

N. Dawson

In attendance: D. Roberts, Information Officer

L. Kendall (for Item 3C)

R.A. Holmes (for Item 3J)

Absent:

D. Baird

A.J. Ellis

W.M. Hamilton

R.J.C. Harper

A.F.C. Hean

ES. Lett

C.H. McLean

G.N. Perry

G. Sperling

Chairman

Secretary

Recording Secretary

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.1: APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Page 6, first paragraph, insert: ".-program..

program.. It was noted by

some members that the new major program went contrary to the previous

expression of opinion by the Senate. Reference...".

/Page 9, Item 3P, add after "Motion Carried": "The Committee was

instructed to make a slate of its own nominations and volunteers

from the Faculty".

Page 10, Item 3A, last paragraph, add: "K.E. Rieckhoff wished

to be recorded as being opposed to sending any letter to the five

graduate students

With these amendments the Minutes were approved.

BUSINESS ARISING

Draft letter to five graduate students.

Moved by D.H. Berg, seconded by M.A. Lebowitz

"that we defer this to consider Item 2A under

Business Arising, Motion by J.W. Matthews, which

was not resolved due to adjournment"

MOTION' LOST

Moved by S.K. Lower, seconded byJ. Walkley

"that Senate approve this letter"

During discussion it was proposed that the second paragraph of the draft,

letter be amended to read ".... that Senate with the advice of the

Senate Committee on Graduate Studies is the final judge,." to which

the mover and seconder of the Motion agreed.

An Amendment to the Motion was moved by D.H,Berg,secoflded by

J.W. Matthews

"that the letter be accepted with the insertion of

a statement to the effect that this letter results

from an appeal to Senate"

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AMENDMENT TO MOTION CARRIED

MOTION CARRIED

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S. Yandle and M.A. Lebowitz asked that their objection to the

draft letter be recorded in the Minutes, on the grounds that the

students' objection was not that the confidential document was

released but that it was written in the first place and then accepted

by F

aculty Council,

Motion by J.W. Matthews which was not resolved due to

adjournment.

Motion seconded by D.H. Berg.

After discussion the Motion was amended;

"that Senate deplores the action of Faculty Council

in receiving academic evaluations of students submitted

to Faculty Council by its Chairman, and recommends to

Faculty Council a careful study and definition of its

powers and duties, for the better ordering of its procedures

in the future"

Motion lost on a recount:

In favour

Opposed

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Abstained

A proposal for a roll call vote was lost. The following

• wished to be recorded as being in favour of the Motion: D.H. Berg

M.Bawtree, J.S. Foulds, E.M. Gibson, M.A. Lebowitz, J.W, Matthews,

R.N. Maud, D.H. Sullivan, S. Wasserman, S. Weng, S. Yandle,

Moved by R.J. Baker, seconded by J. Walkley

"that Senate ask Faculty Council to make a

careful study and definition of its powers and

duties for the better ordering of its procedures

in the future"

MOTION CARRIED

Paper 5-18 was then discussed.

Moved by D.H, Berg, seconded by J.S. Foulds

"that Senate notes and tables the lawyer's report"

Moved by D,H. Berg, seconded by S. Yandle

"that Senate invite Faculty Council to inform Senate

of its procedure with the understanding that "inform"

means "to keep informed"

MOTION CARRIED

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NEW BUSINESS

C. REPORT OF AD HOC COMMITTEE ON EXAMINATION AND GRADING PRACTICES

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/ L. Kendall, Department of Psychology, joine

the meeting

andpresented Paper S-21.. The report was basedt'4uestionaaire

sent to all faculty, to which there had been limited response

After discussion it was suggested that the bar and scatter diagrams

witl a rewritten preamble be sent to Departments for comment, as a

confidential document, or with Departmental names coded.

It was agreed to commend the Committee and invite it to continue and

extend this method of examination

Moved by D,H. Sullivan, seconded by J. Waikley

"that the Ad Hoc Committee report presented to Senate

be sent to Departments"

MOTION CARRIED

NEW COURSES IN ECONOMICS

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Economics 8305

"Analytical Economics. This course is concerned with the

use of basic mathematical concepts which have found widespread

application in economic theory and research in recent years. It

will include calculus with applications in demand and production

theory, matrix algebra with, applications in input-output analysis

of general equilibrium problems, and difference equations with

applications in growth models. Students who have had a university-

level course in calculus will not be required to take Economics 830-5"

R.A. Holmes, Department of Economics and Commerce, joined the

meeting, The proposal that students who had taken a university-level

course in calculus would not be required to take Economics 830-5

was questioned. It was stated that the intention was to exclude

students who had had previous training in calculus from obtaining

credit for 830-5. It was agreed to refer the paper back to the

Economics and Commerce Department through the Dean of Arts for

re-wording.

Moved by W. Vidaver, seconded by D.C. Tuck

"that Senate approve Economics 899-5 as follows:

"Economics 899-5 Readings in Economics, By permission of

the Instructor and Head of the Department"

MOTION CARRIED

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NOTICE OF MOTION, S. YANDLE: "THAT THE QUESTION OF THE CLOSED

NATURE OF SENATE MEETINGS BE RE-OPENED" SI9

Senate was reminded of its resolution passed in February

1967 "that Senate not be opened for one year at which time Senate

consider the matter of openess of Senate". The Chairman ruled that

a resolution to reopen discussion of a matter which had been tabled

for a year was a procedural matter requiring a two-thirds majority,

Page 5, Item 3A, amend to read:

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.a procedural matter

requiring a two-thirds majority, and cited Robert's Rules of Order

Article 31

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.When a question has been postponed to a certain

time, it becomes an order of the-d'ay'for that time and cannot be

taken up before that time except by' a reconsideration, or by

suspending the rules for that purpose,

which requires a two-thirds

vote.", and Articles 48 and 68".

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to report

to Student Council and this reporting had been subjected

to distortion. At the discussions in Senate in February 1967 it had been

made clear that students in general were more interested in having

open meetings than in having representatives in closed sessions.

The Chairman reminded the meeting that the question was

a procedural matter of reopening discussion on a matter which

Senate had established would be re-opened in February 1968.

M.A. Lebowitz challenged the ruling of the chair,,,:-Thechallenge

put to the vote and the chairman upheld.

Senate then voted on whether the discussion of the closed

nature of Senate meetings should be reopened at this time.

In favour 12

Opposed

MOTION LOST

J.S. Foulds indicated he would write for The Peak on Senate

matters, as an experiment in communication with students.

KEEPING OF MINUTES - S-20

It was agreed that"the present system of keeping the shorthand

transcript of Minutes/should continue. The transcript would be

available to Sena-t-o-r-s-

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D. UNDERGRADUATE GRADING SYSTEM S33

Moved by D.H. Sullivan, seconded by D.H. Berg

"that each Faculty be allowed, to use its own

grading system"

It was suggested that this proposal be referred to

the Faculties for discussion and to Joint Faculty befo,re coming

to Senate as the idea of having a diversity of systems had not

been discussed before. The Registrar was asked what problems

this would create if approved, and pointed out that the main

concern was that students should be treated in an equitable

fashion. This proposal might lead to inequities, e.g. in

assessing eligibility for scholarships. After some further

discussion the Motion was withdrawn.

It was then moved by J,W, Matthews,seconded by D}L Sullivan

"that Senate approve the addition of A and C+

to the existing scale"

The Chairman proposed that the Motion be tabled until the

next meeting of Senate

in the meantime the Dean of Arts being

invited to prepare a paper on the reasons underlying his

presentation in Paper S33 and the Registrar being requested to

prepare a paper on the present system and the conversion to grade

point average. W. Vidaver asked that the Science Faculty be

instructed to provide a discussion and argument of a 4 point system

which was preferred by the majority of members of the Science

Faculty, and D.H. Berg asked that the Dean of Science be requested

to present arguments against including A and C+ in the scale.

J.F. Ellis asked that the Registrar's paper include advantages

of staying on the present system.

The Chairman pointed out that the papers on this subject

which had been discussed and brought to Senate between March and

September, 1966, were available in all Departments.

The Motion was tabled until further information is

available from the Deans and the Registrar.

E. ADMISSION TO HONORS PROGRAM FACULTY OF ARTS - S-36

It was agreed that the Registrar would include this

paper in the draft of the new Calendar, for consideration by

Senate at that time.

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PROCEDURES FOR GRANTING DECREES S'37

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Arts proposal was agreed as follows:

"1. Candidates apply for graduation at least seven weeks

before the end of the semester in which they expect

to complete the requirements for the degree.

Registrar sends to the departments transcripts of all

students who have applied and who appear to have

completed the requirements for the degree by the end

of the semester.

Departments send documents of approved graduar.ds to

the Dean of Arts.

The Dean submits these documents to the Faculty of

Arts Curriculum Committee (undergraduates) or the

Faculty of Arts Graduate Studies Committee (graduates).

list

of students eligible to receive degrees will be

circulated to the Faculty. (Documents will be

available in the Dean's Office for consultation).

The list will be presented at the Faculty meeting for

formal approval.

list

of approved graduands will be forwarded to the

Registrar for submission to Senate."

STANDARDS ON THE PREPARATION OF THESIS FOR THE PH.D. DEGREE S.38

The Memorandum was agreed with the following amendment to

paragraph 5, first sentence: "....degree of Ph.D. In special cases

the Senate Committee on Graduate Studies will hear requests for the

waiving of the oral examination. This examination...."

CHANGES IN STUDENTS REQUIREMENTS - S-39

This was agreed as follows:

"The Calendar governing a student's program will

be that in

effect at the time the student declares his major

to the department concerned. A change of major will be

deemed a new declaration. A declaration of a major will be

valid for five calendar years."

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NEW COURSES IN GEOGRAPHY S40

315-3 Biogeography I. An introduction to vegetation and

soils: description, sampling and survey methods; basic

ecological concepts, dynamics and classification. Man's

place in the soil-vegetation system.

(2-1-0)

Prerequisite: Geography 211-3 or permission of the department.

415-5 Biogeography II. A review of some major world

vegetation types and their associated soils. Emphasis

will be placed on ecological problems and research

methodology, human interference and human perception.

(2-3-0)

Pre-requisite: Geography 3153 or permission of the department.

These courses had been approved by the Faculty of

Arts Committee but not by the Department of Bioscience. It was

agreed that they should be approved by Senate subject to assurances

of co-'ordination between the Geography and Biological Sciences

Departments.

Moved by S. Wong, seconded by G. Kirchner

"that Senate instruct the Registrar not to schedule

courses nor register students in courses which have

not been approved by the Senate at least one month

before the beginning of the semester in which the

course is going to be offered"

MOTION CARRIED

K. AWARDING OF DEGREE - J. D. R. PICHE

Moved by J.W. Matthews, seconded by M.A. Lebowitz

"that the degree of Bachelor of Arts be awarded

to J.D.R. Pich&"

MOTION CARRIED

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NOMINATIONS FOR SENATE COMMITTEES - S-43

The following were elected:

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Senate Library Committee

R.J. Baker

J.L. Dampier

J.S.

Foulds

Senate Committee on

D.G. Tuck

Graduate Studies

W.D.

Ross

W.M. Scammell

Senate Committee on

J.F.

Ellis

Undergraduate Admissions

R.R. Haering

and Standings

K.R.

Burstein

Senate Committee on

S. Wong

Honorary Degrees

D.G. Tuck (temporary for

K. E. Rieckhoff)

S. Wasserman

Senate Committee on

C.L.

Kemp

Scholarships, Awards

T.J. Mallinson

and Bursaries

F. Cunningham

The Senate Committee on Graduate Admissions

and

Standings is appointed by the Senate Committee on Graduate

Studies.

FAILURE TO COMPLETE COURSE THROUGH

ILLNESS

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It was agreed that the current

practice of the Registrar

in permitting students to withdraw from

courses after the deadline

without penalty on the basis of a medical

doctor's certificate

should continue.

DATE OF CONVOCATION 1968

Moved by N. Bawtree, seconded by W.

Vidaver

"that Senate set the date of May 11 1968 for Convocation"

MOTION CARRIED

OTHER BUSINESS

The next meeting of Senate will be held on Monday 2 October at 7 p.m.

The meeting adjourned at 11.10 p.m.

D. P. Robertson

Secretary