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MINUTES OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY
HELD IN THE BOARD AND SENATE ROOM
MONDAY, AUGUST 7, 1967 AT 7 P.M.
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Present:
P.D. McTaggart-Cowan
R.J. Baker
J. Behrens
D. Berg
J.L. Dampier
A.J. Ellis
J.S. Foulds
C.J. Frederickson
G.H. Geen
E.M. Gibson
W.M. Hamilton
R.J.C. Harper
G. Kirchner
I.
Koerner
M.A. Lebowitz
E.S. Lett
S.K. Lower
A. R. MacKinnon
J.W. Matthews
G.N. Perry
K.E. Rieckhoff
G. Sperling
D.H. Sullivan
D. G. Tuck
J.
Walkley
S. Wasserman
W. Williams
S. Wong
S. Yandle
D.P. Robertson
M. Dawson
In attendance:
D. Roberts, Information Officer
Absent:
D. Baird
A.E. Branca
F. Candelaria
A.F.C. Hean
C.H. McLean
G.M. Shrum
Chairman
Secretary
Recording Secretary

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APPROVAL;OF MINUTES
A.
Page 2, Item 2, insert: "M. A. Lebowitz complained that, as
a new Senator he did not have the materials available to him to perform properly
his functions as a Senator. He asked that he be given a copy of previous Senate
minutes, a description of the working rules of Senate and a list of all Senate
Committees, their responsibilities and their composition. The Registrar informed
him that it would be too costly to provide previous minutes for new Senators,
but that copies of previous Senate minutes were available in Departmental offices.
R.J. Baker suggested that retiring Senate members could pass their minutes on to
new Senate members as a general rule."
B.
Page 3, Item 3A, Special Education Project, amend last paragraph:
involved in the project. The Centre would make no more demands on University
funds than would be made by normal enrolment in the Faculty of Education, although
it was possible that the existence of the off-campus program would lead to increased
enrolment in Special Education. Moved by......
C.
Page 4, Item 3C, Interdisciplinary Program in Kinesiology, amend
first paragraph:".. ..laboratory in BioScience. R.J. Baker questioned the
advisability of having a program administered bya Committee rather than by a
Faculty, suggesting it might be at odds with the Act; D.H. Sullivan questioned
the very strict nature of the first two years of the program which required students.
to take a list of courses with no more than four elective hours within the first
sixty hours."
D.
Page 5, Item 4B, Appeal to Senate by Five Graduate Students
amend first paragraph: "...Committee on University Regulations.
S. Yandle served notice of motion "that Senate consider the
appeals of graduate students involved in the Templeton School incident who
are appealing the decision of Faculty Council"....."
The Minutes of the meeting of July 10, 1967, were approved with these
amendments.
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Moved by K.E. Rieckhoff, seconded by G.H. Geen
"that the order of the Agenda be re-ordered to
allow items E,F,G,H,J,K,M,N,O and P to come in that
order at the beginning of the Agenda"
An amendment was moved by D.H. Sullivan, seconded by C. Sperling
"that Business Arising should be given precedence"
AMENDMENT CARRIED
MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED
2.
BUSINESS ARISING
A.
Proposal for a Special Education Project - S-15
In response to questions enquiring as to the Board of Governors
decision regarding the Senate's recommendation on Special Education,
the President replied that the Board of Governors had approved the program
for one year and had approved the appointment of the co-ordinator for one
year with the provision that not later than the end of that year and as
early as possible the Faculty of Education should come back with a report
on the progress and success of the program and request an extension.
This was to give the Faculty of Education opportunity to show that this
program could be funded in the manner which the Faculty had in mind and which
had been stipulated in the Senate Minutes of its last meeting.
B.
The reason for the omission of an item on the Agenda which had been
submitted to the Secretary by the student representatives was asked for.
The Registrar explained that the material presented to him did not appear
on the meeting's Agenda as the Chairman of Senate had ruled that the material
pertained to a matter which had not been defined as Senate business, namely
the procedures of Faculty Council.
Some discussion took place on whether or not the papers referred to
which now formed part of the Notice of Motion of D.Berg were in fact relating
to an appeal against procedures or against decisions. It was decided that all
the matters relating to the five graduate students and the relationship of
Senate to Faculty Council could be discussed in relation to Item 3A on the Agenda.
It was suggested that these items could be discussed as Business Arising.
Moved M.A. Lebowitz, seconded E.M. Gibson
"that consideration of this item be deferred no later than 8.30 p.m."
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It was then agreed to move on to the items in the Agenda which had been
agreed upon.
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NEW BUSINESS
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Transfer of Students from Recognized Regional Colleges - S-22.
Moved by K.E. Rieckhoff, seconded by E.S. Lett
"that Senate approve the interim operating procedures
for transfer students from Regional Colleges as follows:
a.
Normally, students who were eligible for admission prior
to attending the College will be admitted with full credit
for all approved courses in which they received a "C" or better.
b.
Normally, students who were not eligible for admission prior
to attending the College may be admitted upon successful
completion of at least four courses in one semester at the
College. On admission such students will be granted full
credit for all approved courses in which they received a
"C" or better.
c.
Normally, students whose record at the College is such that
had they been at the University their academic Status would be
"on probation", will not be admitted until this condition is
removed."
The meaning of "approved courses" was questioned. The Registrar
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explained that references to approved courses meant courses which had been
agreed upon between the University and the Colleges as having transfer status.
This agreement was arrived at after consultation between the University
Departments and their counterparts at the College in most cases.
MOTION CARRIED.
F. Re-admission of Students Required to Withdraw from the University - S-23
Moved by A.R. MacKinnon, seconded by K.E. Rieckhoff
"that recommendation a. be approved as follows:
a.. Normally, a student who has been required to withdraw
from Simon Fraser for the first time, will be re-admitted
after a period of one calendar year."
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by R.J. Baker, seconded by W. Williams
"that recommendation b. be approved as follows:
b. Normally, no credit will be granted to a student on
re-admission for academic work completed during the required
period of absence. Students required to withdraw will be so
informed. The Senate Committee will keep a record of the
actual application of this policy and report back to Senate
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Amendment moved by D. Berg, seconded by D.H. Sullivan
"that the second line be altered to read '...completed
during the required year of absence.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
Amendment moved by G. Sperling, seconded by R.J.C. Harper
"that the wording of the paragraph be amended to read:
• 'Normally, no credit will be granted to a student on
re-admission for academic work completed during the year
of absence except for that credit that the University
usually accepts on transfer'"
The Chairman ruled that this Motion was out of order on the
grounds that it was contrary to the main Motion.
MAIN MOTION CARRIED
AS AMENDED
Moved by K.E. Rieckhoff, seconded by A.R. MacKinnon
"that recommendation c. be acceptas follows:
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Normally, students required to withdraw will be
placed on academic probation on re-admission"
MOTION CARRIED
Moved by K.E. Rieckhoff, seconded by G.H. Geen
"that recommendation d. be approved as follows:
d. Normally, a student required to withdraw from the
University on two occasions will not be re-admitted"
MOTION CARRIED
C.
Proposals for revision of the Chemistry Curriculum - S-24
Moved by K.E. Rieckhoff, seconded by J. Walkley
"that the Chemistry program contained in paper S-24 be
accepted by Senate"
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A lengthy discussion took place on the number of electives
and the degree of liberalisation in this program.
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Reference was made
to previous decisions of Senate namely,
October 3, 1966.
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"that Senate direct the faculties of Arts, Science
and Education to examine the general question of the liberalism of
their aegree programs and report back to Senate"
January 9, 1967 - "that Senate express its deep concern to the
Science Faculty with the fact that there appears to be no limitation
on the requirements which a department in the Faculty of Science
can impose on a student in the first four levels and requests the
Faculty of Science to reconsider its program with a view to
liberalizing it"
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January 9, 1967 - "that the Science Faculty and in particular
the Departments of Physics and Chemistry be asked by Senate to
examine the course levels and see what positive action they can take
to secure greater freedom of choice for the students in Science".
Mention was also made of the Committee on General Education which
had been asked to look into the matter of liberalising programs within
the University.
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MOTION CARRIED
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Bio-chemistry Honors and Major Program - S-25
Moved by K.E. Rieckhoff, seconded by G.M. Geen
"that this Blo-Chemistry program be approved by Senate"
MOTION CARRIED
J. Hindi-101-3 - S-27
Moved by J.W. Matthews, seconded by D.H. Sullivan
"that Hindi 101-3 be approved as follows:
101-3 Introductory Hindi. Continuation of the work of
Hindi 100-3; it should be taken, wherever possible, in
the semester immediately following Hindi 100-3"
NOTION CARRIED
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Deletions, changes and additions to History courses.
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Moved by J.W. Matthews, seconded by D.H. Sullivan
"that the proposals as follows be approved:
Pages 92, 93 and 96 of Undergraduate Calendar.
To be deleted:
241-3 North America Before 1800.
To be amended (to read):
141-3
242-3
243-3
447-5
448-5
449-5
Historical Development of the Americas to 1763
Canada 1763-1873
United States 1763-1890
Latin America and the External World
Economic aspects of Latin America
Social aspects of Latin America
To be added:
200-3 China since 1839
Chinese political, .socio-economic and intellectual
history from the First Anglo Chinese War to the end of
the First Five-year Plan of the Chinese Peoples' Republic
in 1957. (2-1-0)"
MOTION CARRIED
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Changes to Geography Graduate Program - S-30.
Moved by J.W. Matthews, seconded by C. Sperling
"that the proposal as follows be approved:
A. M.A. Requirements
The section following "Minimum requirements"at'the bottom
of page 42 should be deleted and tkfollowing substituted:
Candidates for the degree of M.A. must complete 30 semester
hours of work at the graduate level, with B average or better.
All graduate students will be required to take part in the
graduate seminar, Geography 806, which does not carry credit.
Two types of programmes are offered:
a) With Thesis.
Geography 801-2
Geography 802-3 or 803-3 or 805-3.
15 semester hours to be selected in consultation with
the candidate's advisers; of these up to ten semester
hours may be taken in a department or departments other
than Geography.
M.A.Thesis: this carries ten semester hours credit.
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Geography 801-2
Geography 802-3 or 803-3 or 805-3.
25 semester hours to be selected in consultation with the
candidate's advisers; of these up to ten semester hours
may be taken in a department or departments other than
Geography.
At least three extended essays on topics to be approved by
the candidate's advisory committee. These essays will not
be counted as part of the total semester hours completed
for the M.A. degree. The essays may be based on assignments
carried out as pasrt of the work in the graduate courses.
B.
The department also wishes to add the following item to the
list of graduate courses:
891-2 ) Directed
Not more than five semester hours
892-3Readings
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credit in readings courses may be
893-5 )
counted towards the requirements for
the M.A. degree.
MOTION CARRIED
On a point of order the matter of Graduate Courses in Geography
was reopened and it was decided that the Motion should be altered to
make the final approval of Senate conditional upon the acceptance of
these changes to the Geography graduate program by the Senate Committee
on Graduate Studies.
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PSA 172-3 - S-31.
Moved by G. Sperling, seconded by D.H. Sullivan
"that the course Anthropological Concepts be listed in the
Calendar as PSA.172-3"
MOTION CARRIED
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Question of replacements for Joint Faculty representatives during
Research Semesters and other temporary absences.
It was decided that the Registrar should conduct a regular ballot
procedure to provide nominations to Senate for the necessary replacemmts
for W.Williams and D.G. Tuck, Joint Faculty representatives to Senate.
It was also decided that the candidate receiving the highest number
of votes would be named as the replacement for W.Williams for eight months and
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the second highest would be named as the replacement for D.G. Tuck for four
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In view of the fact that a numberof Faculty will be off the can
for the next few weeks it was agreed that the election should be held
September even though it will mean that the Senate will be short two
Joint Faculty representatives for that one meeting.
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Nominating Committee - S-32
Moved by D.H. Sullivan, seconded by K.E. Riekchoff
"that a Nominating Committee be established to make
recommendations regarding the membership of Senate.
Committees and that the Committee be composed of the
three Academic Deans and the Registrar, and that the
three Deans be assisted by a member of each Faculty"
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MOTION CARRIED
The meeting adjourned at 10.10 p.m. and reconvened at 10.20 p.m.
3.
A.
The Chairman reminded members that they had agreed to discuss
in this item D. Berg's Notice of Motion, 'S. Yandle's Notice of Motia
that had been inserted in the Minutes of the last meeting at the
beginning of this meeting, and in addition the opinion of the University
solicitor regarding the relationship between Faculty Council and Senate
and he suggested that members might also wish to refer to Paper S-34 -
Procedures followed in the Templeton School Incident.
The Chairman asked in which order members wished to proceed with
the consideration of these matters.
It was proposed that the items be taken in the order in which they
were presented at the last meeting, namely: 1. Student appeal;
2. D. Berg's Notice of Motion,and following that the letter from the
solicitor and the report from Faculty Council. S. Yandle presented
the appeal on behalf of five graduate students, John Edmond, Geoffrey Mercer,
Martin Loney, Phil Stanworth and Christopher Huxley. She pointed out that
the students wished to appeal to Senate and asked for general discussion in
Senate as to whether Faculty Council had usurped the authority of others in
its actions regarding the Templeton School incident.
There was some discussion whether or not an appeal could be made against
Faculty Council as stipulated in Section 62.of the Universities Act, inasmuch as
Faculty Council had decided to take no action. The statement was made that a
decision to take no action is in itself action.
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A.R. MacKinnon suggested that it was best for Senate to discuss
how best to proceed after admitting that there had been mistakes made.
He suggested that the first
was necessarily exploratory, and
students were still being worked
received a response from Faculty
taken to clarify certain matters
the setting up of a Faculty Coun
two years of the University's existence
that relationships between the Faculty and
out, He pointed out that Senate had already
Council which suggests steps are being
relating to student discipline, namely
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A.R. MacKinnon also pointed out that it should be remembered we are
dealing with human lives inasmuch as the kinds of things that happened as
a result of the Templeton School incident can affect the lives of graduate
students or other students or Faculty members for many, many years.
He thought the graduate students should be informed by a personal letter
from the Chairman exactly what took place at Faculty Council, why it took
place,and they should also be informed that the investigations conducted
by the Faculty Council were in no way a reflection on their scholarship
or on their right to continue their studies at this University.
It should also be pointed out to them that no part of the deliberations of
Faculty Council or any matters relating to those deliberations would form
a part of their permanent records. He suggested that if discussion could
take place on these items, it should be possible to formulate a series of
Motions to satisfy the students, the Senate and the Faculty Council and
the University community.
D. Berg thought that the discussion so far had implied that there
were two main points to be considered; l.the redress to the five graduate
students involved and 2. the need for Senate to concern itself with the
operation of Faculty Council. R.J. Baker stated as his view the thought
that an apology was in order to the students for the publication of the
confidential memorandum to Faculty Council from the Chairman, but that
since the University is an academic body. it was most important that academic
performance be taken into account in assessing the action taken in discipline
cases. He went on to say that it should be a practice of Faculty Council or
any other adjudication committee to deal with the infractions of regulations
or codes of conduct without any consideration of academic performance, but
that after it had arrived at a decision to take some action, that action
should only be taken in light of a review of the student's academic performance.
S. Yandle suggested that the most important point in the discussion
to her was the consideration of who in the University was competent to make
academic evaluations of students, and for what reason such academic
evaluations should be made. She suggested that this was in large part the
nature of the students' appeal, namely that they felt they had been subjected
to an academic evaluation by persons who were not competent to make such
evaluations.. Considerable discussion resulted in the view that a letter
should be written to the graduate students and that itshould contain an apology
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Discussion then hinged on the exact wording of the letter, and on
or not the apology should be on behalf of the University or on behalf of
the Senate or on behalf of the Faculty Council. A number of wording we-re
suggested for the letter and it was decided that the exact wording ;od b
submitted by. the Chairman for ratification at the next meeting of
Moved by W. Williams, seconded by A.R. MacKinnon
"that this course of actionbe followed"
MOTION CARRIED.
Questions were then asked regarding the dispensation of the st.dn
appeals. The mover of the last Motion stated that his Motion was id
to close the Templeton School incident insofar as these particular
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were concerned. The Chairman gave his view that the letter was in
to the student appeal, and that it dealt with the question of redres.
However, he did not view the Motion as a termination of the debate ci
Senate's concern with the procedures of Faculty Council. On a show ol
hands the Senate agreed with the President's interpretation that thi Mio
had given an expression of the desires of Senate with relation to tho five,
graduate students and that he was now enjoined to express this in lt:ex' t'ow,
a draft of which will appear as a supplement to the Minutes presented at
next meeting of Senate.
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"that Senate deplores the-e-r-rors in the past proceedings
of Faculty Council,---in.-particular in receiving academic
evaluations of students submitted to Faculty Council by :it.s
Chairman, and recommends-to
Faculty Council a careful study
definition
of its pdwers and duties, for the better ordering
of its procedures in the future"
Discussion of this Motion was terminated very shortly by a Motion
to adjourn, which was carried. The meeting adjourned at 12.10 a.m.
D.P. Robertson
Secretary
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