DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE

MINUTES OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY

HELD IN THE BOARD AND SENATE ROOM

ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1966, AT 1:30 PM -

PRESENT:

ABSENT:

D. McTaggart-Cowan

Chairman

Baird

J. Baker (from 2:35)

Bawtree

B. Bottomore

E. Branca

H. Brose

L. Dampier (from 2:30)

F. Ellis

J. Frederickson

S. Lett

R. MacKinnon

Mills

E. Riekhoff

M. Unrau

Vidaver

K. Lower

Candelaria

P. Robertson

Secretary

L. Bursill-Hall

J. Ellis

M. Hamilton

ro1d F. C. Hean

Kirchner

Koerner

H. MëLean

N. Perry

M. Shoemaker

M. Shrum

IN ATTENDANCE:

D. Roberts - Information Officer

The Chairman announced that he wished to depart from the order

of the agenda and consider items 3H. and 4.B., relative to the appoint-

ment of two members of Senate, so that the nominees who were waiting

outside could be asked to take their place at the meeting without

delay. This was agreed upon.

3 H. SCIENCE REPRESENTATIVE ON SENATE

Moved by K. E. Rieckhoff, seconded by D. A. Baird

"that for the period of time that K. E. Rieckhoff serves as

Acting Dean of Science, S. K. Lower serve in his place as

Faculty Representative on Senate"

CARRIED

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4 B. ARTS REPRESENTATIVE ON SENATE

Moved by F.

Frederickson, seconded by W. Vidaver

"that for the period of time that D. H. Sullivan is

absent from the University, F. Candelaria serve in

his place as Arts Faculty representative on Senate"

CARRIED

The two newly appointed members were invited into the meeting and

were introduced to the members of Senate.

The Chairman then reported that he had asked D. Roberts, the Information

Officer, to attend the meeting, in accordance with the motion passed at a

previous meeting. He then introduced Mr. Roberts to the members.

1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

On page 2. in the first line of the fourth paragraph the word

"course" was changed to "coarse". On the same page, second line,?

T. H. Brose requested the words "as a means of overcoming the problem

of reconciling the letter system with the numerical system" be changed

to " for purposes of symmetry ".

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With the foregoing changes the minutes of August 29, 1966, were

approved as distributed..

The Registrar asked the members if, in view of the wider dis-

tribution of the minutes, they wished to continue with minutes as now

written or if they preferred to make some suggestion for change.

T. B. Bottomore stated that he would prefer that the minutes be

written as they have been thus far.

M. Bawtree recommended as a means of safeguarding the members

from any adverse effects resulting from statements recorded in the

minutes incorrectly that the minutes circulated be marked "Draft.

until approved by Senate."

The Registrar reported a request from A. MacPherson that supporting

papers be circulated to the departments with the minutes. The Chairman

stated that the minutes do refer to documentation that Senate has

before it and minutes circulated without the supporting papers, make

understanding imperfect.

Mills recommended that the agenda also be sent to departments..

T. B. Bottomore recommended that the question be deferred in

order to permit a proper study of the papers involved over a period

of time.

The Chairman suggested the agenda be circulated with the minutes

together with those supporting papers referred to in the minutes if

required for a proper understanding of the minutes.

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J. F. Ellis pointed out that some papers should not be circu-

lated - such as statements of marks and discipline cases.

T. H. Brose recommended that it be left to the discretion of the

Secretary to decide which papers should be sent out.

Moved by W. Vidaver, seconded by D. A. Baird

"that if the Registrar, in preparing the minutes, finds it

necessary to refer to a paper, this paper becomes a part of

the minutes and should be attached"

E. S. Lett recommended that the words "at the discretion of

the Registrar" be added.

The Chairman stated that the cases in mind could be where indi-

viduals are involved and the subject is not public property.

The Chairman then asked for a vote on the motion by W. Vidaver,

seconded by D. A. Baird, with the amendment recommended by E. S. Lett,

"that if the Registrar, in preparing the minutes, finds it neces-

sary to refer to a paper and that paper is necessary for proper

understanding of the minutes, it becomes a part of the minutes

and should be attached, at the dicretion of the Registrar"

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CARRIED

Moved by J. Mills, seconded by T. H. Brose, that the agenda be

circulated to faculty offices with the minutes.

CARRIED

BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES

The Registrar reported that in according with the decision of

Senate at its meeting of August 29th he had applied for membership

in SACU for the University and had made it clear that this did not

mean the University was committed to use the tests developed by the

Service. He then read the letter received from SACU confirming that

the membership was perfectly valid and acceptable on the basis

specified. (Attached)

3 A. STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE ON SENATE

1) Eligibility, to vote

The members considered the request of the President of the

Student Society that Senate reconsider its decision that students

with 12 semester hours or more would be the only eligible voters

on the election of a Student Representative on Senate

Moved by K. E. Rieckhoff, seconded by C. J. Frederickson

"that the decision of Senate to require a student to be

enroled twelve semester hours or more to be eligible to

vote be reaffirmed"

CARRIED

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2) Distribution of Senate minutes to Student Society

Senate considered the request from the President of the

Student Society for Senate minutes for each of the Fall meetings.

After considerable discussion the Chairman recommended that

the Registrar write a report on each meeting of Senate and send

the summary report to the President of the Student Society, the

Peak, and any other party who was interested. This report could

be written so that supporting papers would not be necessary.

It was pointed out that it could be assumed that the Student

Representative, who will receive all documentation for Senate,

will communicate matters of importance to the students.

A. R. MacKinnon recommended that there should be a place

where the minutes with the papers are available.

J. Mills amended his motion to state

"that the request of the Student Society to have Senate minutes

provided be met by making the Library copy of the minutes

available to students"

The Chairman then called for a vote in two parts for the motion

by J. Mills, seconded by A. R. MacKinnon

"that the Registrar be requested to prepare a summary

to be distributed freely in the community"

CARRIED

"that the agenda, supporting papers and minutes be kept

in the Library and made available upon request to any

member of the University community: the papers for this

copy to be subject to the discretion of the Registrar"

T. B. Bottomore stated that he felt this was getting away from

the idea of minutes: that they were for the information of those

who discuss the business of the meetings and the business of the

meetings would be deteriorated by such action. He prefers that

the minutes of a meeting of any body be confined to the membership

of that body: to go beyond this is to restrict open discussion.

He stated he was opposed to circulating the minutes.

T. H. Brose stated that he did not believe candor would restrict

the body: that since Senate did not have Proceedings, as did the

House of Commons, minutes and papers were the record of Senate

and he believed people on campus should have that record available.

The Chairman then called for a vote on the second part of the

motion.

CARRIED

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Procedures for Election of Student Representative

The Registrar requested a ruling on his suggestion that nomination

forms for nomination of a student representative required twenty

signatures.

Moved by R. J. Baker, seconded by J. F. Ellis

"that nomination forms for the student representative should

require twenty signatures"

CARRIED

3 F. REQUEST FROM OMBUDSMAN FOR MINUTES OF SENATE

Moved by J. Lawrence Dampier, seconded by F. Candelaria

"that the summary report of Senate meetings be sent to

the Ombudsman and he be advised that copies of Senate

agenda, minutes and papers will be available in the

Library"

CARRIED

The Registrar will refer the question of the other minutes

requested to the appropriate bodies.

3 C. REPORT ON EARLY ADMISSION STUDENTS

The Registrar reported that the mean point average for the summer

semester students was 2.14, while that of the early admission students

was 2.67. It was his opinion that from this report it was evident

that

there was no reason to question the early admissions program.

J. F. Ellis asked about the five students of the early admission

group whp had not been interviewed. The Registrar stated that if so

instructed he would arrange to interview the other five students.

J. F. Ellis recommended that a rport on all these students be sent

to the schools. The Registrar reported that he intended to send it

to a number of people, including the B.C. Studerct Loan Commit 'tee and

the Department of Education. It was agreed that a number of people

would be interested in a complete report and the Registrar was asked.

to arrange to interview the remaining five students and complete the

report. He will also arrange to make a suitable notation on the

permanent record of these students in order to offset the fact that

they did not receive high school diplomas.

3 B. REPORT ON SUMMER SEMESTER GRADES

The Chairman reported that by earlier action Senate had asked

the Committee of Heads to comment on the semester grades and that

this report will be available for the next meeting of Senate.

It was agreed that the report be received by Senate and discussion

deferred until the comments of the Committee of Heads had been received.

The Registrar was requested to provide comparative figures for that

discussion.

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3 D.

REPORT FROM ADMISSIONS & STANDING CO1ITTEE

The Registrar reported that preparation of this report involved

much more study and that the Committee requested Senate to defer this

matter in order to provide sufficient time to Work on the report.

Senate noted that the report of the Senate Undergraduate Admissions

Committee on Academic Standings would be received at a later date.

3 E.

REPORT ON FALL ENROLMENT

The Registrar presented his report. Senate agreed to receive and

take note of the report. It was also noted that the report did not

include the graduate students, who number approximately two hundred.

3 C

• NEW PROGRAM IN SCIENCE

Dean Rieckhoff presented his paper requesting the approval of Senate

on the new program for a degree in "Honours Chemical Physics". He

stated that the program would provide a sound basis for the B. Sc.

degree with honors and would enable students to gain admission to

graduate work in this University and to other universities in the

appropriate areas.

Moved by K. E. Rieckhoff, seconded by A. M. Unrau

"that Senate approve the new program for a degree in

'Honours Chemical Physics' "

Dean MacKinnon pointed out the small number of electives in the

program and stated that Princeton and Stanford noted in the docu-

mentation as having similar programs, have a larger number of electives.

He expressed concern that the proposed program was so narrow that it

would produce students who would not be able to continue their studies

at other universities. R. J. Baker stated that the program appeared

to he a double honors program, which at UBC takes an extra year.

There followed a discussion which clearly indicated a general

concern about such a specialized course at the undergraduate level.

Dean Riekhoff stated that some of the Science Faculty had expressed the

same concern, but asked that the program be considered on its own

merit within the framework of programs already approved at this Uni-

versity, then the fact that this and other honors programs in the

University made little or no provision for the humanities could be

discussed. If it was decided that the general requirements for the

University should be changed, then it should be done to affect other

programs in the same manner. It was pointed out that neither Senate

nor the faculties had discussed the curriculum since the University

started except for the discussions at the time when it was necessary

to make immediate decisions on the content of the calendar. Thus it

was possible to have a series of programs similar to the one under

discussion. Dean Rieckhoff stated that the Science Faculty had given

the program very careful consideration from the point of view of

broadening it, but could not work out anything that offered more breadth

in the eight semester framework.

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F. J.

Frederickson asked if it was vital that a decision be made

at this time, stating that he would not like to see the proposal de-

feated, but that there were implications which made decision difficult.

Dean Rieckhoff replied that it was important that a decision be reached

without delay, because there were certain students who had to be

advised on their program in the Spring semester.

The Chairman expressed the opinion that Senate would have to make

a very careful examination of the question of the elimination of

courses outside the area of specialization in order to meet standards

for an honors program.

The Chairman then called for a vote on the motion of

E. Rieckhoff,

seconded by A. M. Unrau

"that Senate approve the new program for a degree in

'Honours Chemical Physics' "

CARRIED (8 to

Moved by

S. K.

Lower, seconded by A. R. MacKinnon

"that Senate direct the faculties of Arts, Science and

Education to examine the general question of the

liberalism of their degree programs and report back to

Senate"

CARRIED

3 I. STUDENT FACULTY RIGHTS

Senate agreed with a recommendation from the Faculty Council that

it was not proper for the University to assign specific rights to any

group on the campus in as much as all members of the University Com-

munity enjoy those rights which are theirs by virtue of being citizens

and that to single out any rights over others would be to leave doubt

about those omitted. It was the opinion of Senate that individual and

group rights at a University are best left assumed and that any in-

fractions of such rights very quickly come to light.

Moved by K. E. Rieckhoff, seconded by M. Bawtree

"that the report of Faculty Council on Student Faculty

Rights be accepted"

CARRIED

The Registrar then stated that he wished to use this paper as

an example of papers for distribution and asked if this paper should

be considered a Senate paper to be circulated and made available to

Student Council. It was agreed that this would not be necessary:

that a notation in the Registrar's summary report would be sufficient.

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3 J. SENATE COMMITTEES

The paper presented to the Senate by the Registrar pointed out

that the Rules of Procedure adopted by Senate calls for re-election

of Senate Committee members in October, but since these Committees

were not established until last March, he recommended the present

membership be carried on until October 1967.

Moved by C. J. Frederickson, seconded by W. Vidaver

"that the reconimer±dation of the Registrar be accepted"

CARRIED

4 A. NEW COURSE IN ARTS

Dean Bottomore reported that the proposed new course, PSA 273-3,

Archaeology of the New World, had been approved by the Arts Faculty.

It was a companion course to 272-3, Archaeology of the Old World.

Moved by J. F. Ellis, seconded by A. R. MacKinnon

"that PSA 273-3, Archaeology of the New World, be approved"

CARRIED

4 C. CONFERMENT OF THE DEGREE OF MASTER OF ARTS ON MICHAEL J. MULKAY

Dean Bottomore made the following report:

The Faculty of Arts, at its meeting on Monday 26th September.

recommended Michael J. Mulkay, B.A. (Sociology) 1st class Honours

(London), for the M.A. degree. The details are as follows:

Residence

3 semesters at Simon Fraser

Courses

801 Sociological and Anthropological Theory

(Systems and Models in Sociological Theory)

891 Master's Seminar

(The Concept of Power)

893 Readings in Sociology

(Two courses: Ideology and Social Change,

Science and Society

Thesis: Supe4n Committee

T. B. Bottomore

Title: "The Recruitment of Scientists:

A Case Study in Canada"

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Final Exam. Examiniommit tee

T. B. Bottomore

I. Neustadt - University of Leicester

Thesis Defence. Passed

Moved by Dean MacKinnon seconded by D. A. Baird

"that the Degree of Master of Arts be granted to Michael

J. Mulkay and that the Chancellor be requested to confer

this degree on Michael J. Mulkay, at the Spring Convoca-

tion 1967"

CARRIED

4 D. SENATE'S RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE

JECTION46F

It was agreed that this item be held for discussion at the next

meeting of Senate.

DEFERRED

4 E. UNIVERSITY CALENDARS

The paper distributed by the Registrar recommended the following

schedule for both the undergraduate and graduate calendars for the

Summer and Fall semesters of 1967 and the Spring semester of 1968:

December 15, 1966 - All copy in hands of Registrar

January 9, 1967

- Calendar presented to Senate for approval

January 13, 1967 - Copy given to printer

February 10, 1967 - Calendars ready for distribution

The Chairman pointed out that on January 9th both calendars would

be presented to Senate. He stated that it was clear that the Senate

Committee on Graduate Studies should examine the graduate calendar

material so that it would come to Senate with the approval of this

Committee. Since there was no like body to examine the undergraduate

calendar material he suggested the formation of a Senate Undergraduate

Calendar Review Committee.

Moved by J. Lawrence Dampier, seconded by J. Mills

"that Senate approve the schedule for the calendars

recommended by the Registrar and that a Senate Undergraduate

Calendar Review Committee be appointed by the Chairman"

CARRIED

It was agreed that the Chairman would ask the three Deans for

two nominations from each faculty to this Committee.

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The question of whether the study of the University Programs,

as agreed to in 3 C., should be made prior to preparation of the

calendars was discussed. It was agreed that this study could not

be made in a month or two, as any solution that was pushed through

too quickly would not be a good one. R. J. Baker felt that such

a study could take a year to complete. It was agreed that the study

could not be completed prior to preparation of the calendars.

4 F. LETTER FROM CANADIAN NTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION

Correspondence relative to a request from the Canadian Mental

Health Association on the mental health training in the professional

preparation of teachers was circulated to all members. It was agreed

that Senate receive this correspondence and that discussion of the

matter be deferred pending a report from the Faculty of Education on

the question.

The meeting adjourned at 5:00 PM.

D. P. Robertson

Secretary