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    NjTES OF THE FIRST MEETINC OF THE SENATE OF SIMON FRASER
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    he.d in the Bard and Senate Room on Mcnday,
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    29th,
    1965.
    Present:
    President P. D.
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    or C. N. Shrum
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    Baird
    M.
    Bawtre
    T. B.
    Bottomre
    T. H.
    Brose
    G. L.
    Bursill-Hail
    A. B.
    Cunningham
    J. F.
    Ellis
    A.F.C.
    C.- 3.Frederickson
    Han
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    Kirchner
    A. R.
    MacKinnon
    R. N.
    Maud
    C. N.
    Perry
    K. E.
    Rjeckhoff
    E. N.
    Shoemaker
    D. H.
    Sullivan
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    A. N.
    V.
    L'nrau
    Vidaver
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    L. Wilson, Acting Registrar, Secretary
    Absent:
    K. J.
    Baker
    C. D.
    Nelson
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    Broderick, Recording Secretary
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    It was
    c-ved and seconded:
    That the agenda be approved as presented.
    CARRIED
    2)
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    Dr. Ellis advsd that there were several members of
    facty wafting outsIde wanting to kncw if the Senate would
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    spectators.
    A brief discussion followed in which the
    membvrs generally expressed their reluctance to permit the
    adaIss.n of spectators at this time.
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    it was moved by Mr. Frederickson and seèonded by Dr.
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    That visitors be excluded from Senate at this
    time, and that
    the
    matter be reconsidered after
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    Dr. Vaud had ben asked by his colleagues to support their
    visiting the meeting and was therefore opposed to the motion.
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    Nt. Bawtrc then reqested that a specific date be set for
    re.-cpantng the issLe.
    Dr. Shrum reccnended that the matter
    sho:ld be. pestperd
    nt1l Senate Is mcre fully ccnstituted.
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    An avndrnont was movud by Dr. Bjrsiil-Hail and seconded by Mr.
    Bawtree
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    That the matter be reviewed when Senate is
    more fully ccstituted.
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    carried.
    The amended motion then carried.
    3)
    RECEIPT CF REFGRT ON DECISIONS MADE BY THE B3ARD OF
    GOVERNORS ON BEHALF CF THE SENATE
    The Chairman referred the members to the report on decisions
    of the Board of Govenors made on behalf of Senate and asked that
    it be received.
    It was moved and seconded:
    That the report be received.
    CARRIED
    Mr. Sullivan expressed the opinion that such information as
    Professor Baker's proposal on the trimester system mentioned in
    the report should be made available to the Setiate.
    The Chairman advised that only some of this information was
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    now germane.
    Much of the material was printed in the first
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    He siggested that Senate members go through the report
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    and indicate the material they wished to have.
    Mr. Sullivan
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    ration be. given to distributing all
    appendices listed in the report to all members who do not have
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    this information at their disposal.
    Dr. Rieckhcff then reconmHnd
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    ed that proposals as well as amended proposals should be listed.
    Dr. Shrum pointed c-ut that this would be difficult, as original
    propc-sals were not always recorded.
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    The Chairman advised that he would request the Acting
    Acting
    Registrar
    Registrar to go through this report and provide the appendices on
    impertant matters.
    He will also request that wherever possible
    she provide material on other references of interest to the Senate.
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    ences by the members of Senate.
    This information will be compiled
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    PROGRAM FOR THE APPROVAL OF CALENDAR CHANGES AND ADDITTONS
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    The Chairman reper ted that in the absence of a Senate a
    committee of facult
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    was established to ccmmenco work on the next
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    calendar.
    The work is now well advanced and the report distributtd
    to Senate moirbers was made up by the committee., reccmmending certain
    deadlines for material and pubicatiOfl.
    In the discussi on
    it was
    noted that if an annual issieof the calendar was planned it would
    have to b
    issued about February if it were to ccver the summer,
    fall and spring semesters or in June if it wete to cover the fall,
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    the present calendar covered the firsts
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    two semesters only so that a new calendar at this time is unavoidable.
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    It might be advisable to plan a supplement to be issued in the summer.
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    The Chairman advised that the committee proposed that the
    calendar be presented in two parts, the undergraduate portion now and
    subsequently a small graduate calendar.
    The proposed deadline for the
    undergraduate portion is December 15th
    The Chairman then asked if it was agreed that the calendar be
    issued in two parts.
    It was moved by Mr. Hean, seconded by Prof.
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    That the calendar be prepared in two parts.
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    The Chairman then asked, in view of the December 15th deadline,
    if the Senate wished to review the material for this undergraduate -
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    portion of the calendar,
    it was agreed that Senate should do so.
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    immediately after the 15th and it was suggested that this material be
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    referred to a committee of Senate to review the material before it
    was discussed at the Senate meeting.
    Mr. Sullivan moved and Mr. Frederickson seconded:
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    That a steering ccmmittee, representing a member
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    of each faculty, be set up to bring forward
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    the èa1endar.
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    establish such a committee:
    when material is prepared it goes to
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    the Curriculum Committee of the faculty and is circulated.
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    recomirided it be given directly to all members of the Senate for
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    consid.ratic'n, as he felt consideration first by a committee would.
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    delay the caletdar.
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    The rresfdent then called for a vote on the motion proposed
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    It was the- agr=d
    that
    the iater ial shcold be circlat-d
    to o'rr:bors of Enate as scon as pssible after December lath and at
    the next meetirg of Se
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    the
    beans in turn would present t!
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    Deans
    calendar material
    fr.
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    their Faculties. Matorjal for the graduate
    calenda
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    will
    be
    d--alt with in the sane manner.
    The question of the
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    ecessity of Senate reviewing the
    material for graduate brochures was then
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    SCUSSCd.
    It
    was agreed
    that Senate would be interested in such brochures, but as long as
    they did not conflict
    with
    iriformatjon
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    jr the calendar it was not
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    essary for Senate to approve each brochure.
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    POLICY ON NN
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    Dean Wilson reported that a relatively small number of
    students had net completed payment of theIr fees. The deadline
    originally set for Payment had been set aside because of the
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    of the first regjstr4. and notices had since been
    sent t ths in arrears by the Bursar.
    There folI.:wed a disoss0n on whether this was a matter fcr
    the fnar or for th Loard. It was decided that It was properly
    a matter for the Eard and will be taken up at the meeting of December
    The
    Bursar wi
    be reqas td to send a final warn-*.--g that if
    Bursar
    they do met pay
    or make satisfactry arrang ants, tfeir
    standing is In Jecpardy. A list of such students will b sent tc
    faco.ty and theIr examinations will not be acoepted. The date in the
    rjet calendar cm paynent of fees Is January 7th and will be
    enforced.
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    The Chairman asked the Senate to consider the question Of
    what constituted failing a semester. It was felt that this matter
    should be decided In a joint meeting of faculty and it was reccmn-.d_
    ed that a soec.ial
    eting of Senate be held on this questIon after a
    report had bec: received frm faculty. It was pointed cut that this
    was a matter that had to be
    dCIdd
    ncw because It was rcqu!red for
    the
    processing of the results
    c-f
    the. examiratjcps being held this
    SCmCster.
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    The qest:n of the "f" grade was
    discussed
    and its roaming
    was olar ifed as beftg
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    t:.e
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    department the opportunity to terminate study of the subject by a
    student but t give credit to the student for the course. A
    student wishing to remove the "T" grade might do so either by ra
    peating the course or by writing an examination at the end of the
    next semester without having repeated the course.
    Dr. Shrum then said that as this was an urgent matter, he
    moved, and Professor Bottomore seconded:
    That for this semester a student taking one course
    required C+ to receive credit and a student taking
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    more than one course required C or better, without
    prejudice to what the faculty decided later. CARRIED
    The question of whether a student who fails to get standing
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    should be allowed to re-register was then discussed.
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    Dr. Perry recommended that for this Semester students be
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    allowed conditional status so that the student knew where he stood
    and Dr. Bursill-Hall supported this.
    Dr. Unrau moved and Dr. Rieckhoff seconded that:
    Students who fail in every course should seek
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    In consid
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    ring these cases it is the wish of Senate
    that th Admissions Committee treat them generously
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    and that the possibility of conditional status as
    suggested by Dr. Perry be considered.
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    STUDENT
    DEClPLfl
    The Senate was asked to consider the following recorrjnend-
    ation by the Faculty Council:
    That the present student government be reccgnized
    astnd
    udethant
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    ctourhe
    st tsudeubjntecs
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    be
    to
    aa utdehortaiilzeed d
    stco rutseit ny
    up
    of
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    the student court by the Faculty Council.
    Dr. Maud announced that he had a bulletin involving student
    courts which he felt members of the Senate might like
    to
    have and
    will arrange to send out copies.
    Mr. Sullivan requested that the two questions be consider-
    ed separately. He has no objection to having students draw up
    terms of reference for these courts, but considered it essential
    that Senate give very careful consideration to this after receiving
    Faculty Council recommendations. Several members agreed.
    The Chairman then asked the Senate if it would recognize the
    student government as it now exists, subject to the Faculty Council
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    Satisfying itself that the Cozis-,itutjoll is in good form. Senate
    agreed.
    Mr. Sullivan moved and Dr. Burajil_Itall seconded:
    That Senate not accede to the request of Faculty
    Council to setup a student court, but Invite the
    student to submit proposals through the Faculty
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    Council for the student court, indicating the
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    ove
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    ng
    to
    of
    subm
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    uritis sdi
    rec
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    om
    tion
    me
    a
    nda
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    ons
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    Mr. Bawtree requested that members of Senate receive minutes
    of the meetings of the Faculty Council and was advised that they
    would be available in the office of the Registrar.
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    SENATE
    REP
    RESENTATI,ES ON BOARD OF GOVERNORS
    The question was asked whether the members of the Board of
    Governors now serving on Senate could Continue to serve on the Board.
    It was pointed out that Without these members back on the Board the
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    hand
    icapped,as it would be without a
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    quorum most of the time
    The Chairman then advised that his
    Interpretation
    of the Act
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    the Board of Governors pending the election of the three members to
    the Board by the Senate.
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    It was moved and seconded;
    That Senate accept this interpretation.CARRIED
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    That the election of members of Senate to the
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    now In progress of the six members of Convocation
    to the Senate has been completed.
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    MEMBERS OF
    CO
    NVOCATION TO SENATE
    The Chairman reported that letters to Convocation have now
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    F
    ounders list would be closed
    on January 1st, 1966.
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    Dr. Shrum moved and Prof. Vjdaver scodde,d:
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    That
    nomin
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    and voting will be on the 1st of April.
    CARRIED
    The Chairman then aske.d the m2mbers if they wished to defer
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    agenda items 7. and 8. and consider item 9.
    Dr. Shrum pointed out that the question of visitors had
    already been conidered under item 7. and recommended that the
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    question of the press releases on Senate should also be consider-
    ed.
    This could be done either by giving the President authority
    to speak for the Senate or by appointing a committee to prepare
    press releases.
    It was agreed that the President should. issue
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    information to the press on behalf of Senate.
    The Chairman asked Senate if the minutes should be circulat-
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    ed to all members of faculty after approval, or to members of Senate
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    only.
    It was agreed that the approved minutes would be circulated
    to members of Senate and be made available to other members of
    faculty, by being available in the Registrar's Office and possibly
    in the Library.
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    Mr. Bawtree asked regarding the procedure for placing items
    on the agenda and was advised that items for the agenda should be
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    It was then agreed that items 7 and 8 on the agenda be
    carried forward to the next meeting
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    DATE
    FOR NEXT MEETING
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    Dr. Bursill-Hall moved and Mr. Hean seconded:
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    That regular meetings of Senate be held on the
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    last Monday of each month in the evening.
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    That regular meetings of Senate be held at 2:30
    in the afternoon rather than in the evening.
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    This was seconded and the amendment carried.
    Dr. Shrum suggested that the date set might be inconvenient
    for other members of Senate and recommended that this be an interim
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    decision.
    Professor Bottomore felt it should not be impossible for
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    members of faculty to provide for an afternoon once a -month to
    attend Senate, but agreed that the question of inconveniencing
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    future members was more serious.
    He also stated that later on a
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    monthly meeting would probably not be necessary.
    The Chairman suggested that the amended motion be tabled for
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    consideration at a later meeting.
    This was agreed•.
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    It was rncved and
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    That the next meeting be held on January 3rd,
    at 2:30 p.m. This will ensure that the. calendar
    material is
    pr
    ocessed in time and since lectures
    start on the 5th, the meeting can start in the
    afternoon and continue into the evening if
    necessary.
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