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    To: Senate
    From: Registrar
    22 September, 1967
    Subject: Undergraduate Grading System.
    1.
    The Necessity for a Fine Structure
    The following table portrays the present grading system:
    Letter grade
    Permanent Record
    Scholarship
    Numerical Value
    Numerical Value
    A+
    4
    4.5
    A
    4
    4.0
    B+
    3
    3.5
    B
    3
    3.0
    B-
    3
    2.5
    C
    2
    2.0
    C-
    2
    1.5
    D
    1
    1.0
    F
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    0
    N
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    DEF
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    The justification for a finer scale of numerical values for
    the determination of scholarships is its spreading effect. That is,
    of X students achieving a GPA of 3.5 on the 4 point scale, some may be
    over 3.5 and some below 3.5 on the finer scale. This spreading effect
    is necessary in the case of scholarships such as the B.C. Government
    awards where the number of awards is limited in number.
    The proposal of the Arts Faculty to further increase the fine
    structure would provide an increased spreading effect, but the spreading
    effect we have now is sufficient.
    2. "Administrative" Aspects of Change
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    There are no objections to changing the present grading system
    based on administrative criteria. There would be some costs involved
    in re-programming for the computer and reprinting certain forms, but not
    sufficient to affect the decision one way or the other,
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    External Views
    The grading system at Simon Fraser has been changed once since the
    University opened two years ago. To change it again probably would not be
    a serious concern to other Universities or award-granting agencies, but I
    suggest we do establish some period of time during which the system would
    exist unchanged for fear outsiders might begin to have doubts about our
    competency, and judge our students accordingly.
    4.
    Use of the Grading System
    Whatever grading system we use is a matter of little importance
    compared to how we use it. The recent report of the Examination and Grading
    Practices Committee showed some wide fluctuations in grading practice.
    In this day of "money for marks" it is obviously of vital concern to the
    student that there be some common standard in the use of the grading system.
    In addition to the problem of skewing the distribution of grades
    to one end of the scale or the other, there is the further problem of
    instructors who do not use the fine scale. There is no evidence that this
    is happening now, but it has often been suggested that those who want a
    4 point scale can have what they want by assigning only A's, B's, C's, D's and F's.
    If this suggestion is put into practice it would undoubtedly have an effect
    on students' chances of securing financial assistance.
    5. Recommendation for Change
    If Senate does change the Grading System I would strongly urge
    that the letter grade N be dropped. The N grade was originally intended
    to cover those students who did not write the final examination. It is
    a carry-over from a system where final examinations were universal and
    counted for the majority of the final grade assigned.
    Since Simon Fraser has a wide range of practices ranging from
    no final examination through variations of weight placed on the final
    to 1007,, of the grade being assigned on the final, the letter grade N is
    anomalous. If a student does not complete the work required in a course and
    the instructor sees no reason to grant a DEF grade, then the student should
    be given an F grade, since has has indeed failed the course.
    D.P. Robertson
    Registrar
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    1. Def:inition of
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    2. Usage.
    In the 1966/67 calendar, p.38, a 10-point scale was laid down, C-
    being excluded. In the 1967/68 calendar, p.44, appeared the 9-point
    scale now in force. A- and C+ were omitted, and C- reinstated.
    These facts prompt the following observation. A member of faculty
    who has had some years of marking, according to a particular scale,
    has great difficulty in changing to a scale differing by one or two
    points from that with which he has been familiar. Novitiates into
    teaching would not experience this difficulty. The permutation
    practiced in the above two calendar entries seems to have been
    calculated to throw everyone, experienced and inexperienced, into
    such a confusion in their task of grading student attainment as
    could hardly have been bettered.
    3. On June 6, 1966 Dean Cunningham reported to Senate the Arts
    Faculty's earnest request for restoration of the A- and C+ grades, i.e.
    for the 11-point scale as set out above. Discussion at that meeting
    of Senate and again on August 29., 1966 showed that the Science Faculty
    in general preferred a 4-point scale. Points made in discussion were
    that the Scholarship and Awards Committee requires a fine structure to
    guide their decisions; that the grading system used ought to be
    compatible with percentage systems, and with the 4-point system used
    in American universities. It is not clear what was envisaged as a percentage
    system. Below the pass mark, whatever that may be, there can only be one
    point. Above the pass mark grouping can be arranged in various ways. It is
    submitted therefore, that percentage systems cannot be considered relevant
    to this question. On August 29, 1966 Senate endorsed the 4-point grade
    system for external use. The Registrar and the computer could, if necessary,
    ignore all pluses and minuses in their records. I have consulted with
    members of the Arts Faculty and the general consensus appears to be that
    a 4-point system would be preferred to the present system
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    The following conclusions are submitted.
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    The 11-point system and the 4-point system can easily live
    together.
    2.
    Either is preferred to any compromise between them.
    3.
    For scholarship and other award decisions either the 11-point
    system must be used or the Scholarships and Awards Committee
    must in almost every case have recourse to departments for
    additional information to enable them to reach just decisions.
    In conclusion I wish to stress the importance of custom to
    individual members of faculty if they are to achieve maximum
    justice in their grading of student performance. The 11-point
    system can be easily adapted by individuals to any course or
    scale to which they may be accustomed.
    I submit that this consideration and conclusion 3 above tilts
    the balance of argument in favour of the motion now before Senate.
    (Sd.) John Matthews
    September 19, 1967.
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    The Senate, at its meeting on September 11,
    1967,
    requested comments from
    the Faculties on the proposal by the Faculty of Arts that the
    grading
    scale
    at Simon Fraser University be changed in the direction of providing the
    opportunity for finer discriminations on student performance.
    The existing grading system was accepted by the Faculty of Education at its
    meeting of April
    4,
    1966. The voting in favour of the scale was 16 for,
    3
    against.
    I think it is fair to say that the Faculty of Education is as
    aware
    as any group, and more aware - than some, of the limitations of any
    grading system. Our pessimism about devising a "perfect" grading scale arises
    from
    at least the following:
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    No evaluation can
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    take into account all aspects of a learner's
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    2. All
    evaluation procedures are subject, to a greater or lesser degree,
    to the biases of the evaluator.
    3.
    Many grading systems can be destructive of the relationship between
    teacher
    and
    student.
    4.
    Many of the devices used for. evaluation in universities do not uncover
    some of the most
    important
    objectives that the professor may have.
    For these reasons and for many others, the Faculty of Education at its April
    4 meeting, agreed to support the present grading scale - though with a greater
    or lesser degree of uneasiness.
    The attention of Senate should now be directed to the
    following
    consideration:
    The Uhiversity is two years old. The present grading scale is the second
    system that has been used since the University opened. A change in the
    present scale will undoubtedly lead to confusion among students and difficulty
    in the interpretation of student records, both on this campus
    and
    on other
    campuses.
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    I have been asked to set out the reasons why the present nine
    point grading system in use in the University does not include A- and
    C+. The reasons are relatively simple. The simplest grading system
    which the University could use, and which would be in keeping with
    that used in other North American universities, would involve the
    passing grades ABCD. When the Committee met in the spring of 1966
    to consider grading in Simon Fraser University, an important issue
    was the need to differentiate between students with similar grade point
    averages in the awarding of scholarships. No doubt the Registrar can
    amplify the reasoning behind this statement more fully than I can. We
    therefore argued that the most likely place where problems will arise
    will be in the B grade, which was therefore divided into B+, B, and B-.
    As additional fine structure in the system, C and A both had extra
    grades placed within them to identify the exceptionally bright student
    at A+, and the one who has got a bare pass at C-. In other words,
    this does not represent the removal of A - and C+ from an eleven-point
    scheme, but rather the insertion of A+, B+, B- and C- around a four-
    point scheme.
    Having identified the rationale, however, I must say that the
    present argument does not appear to be taking place along rational
    lines. The Science Faculty is used to the A.BCD scheme, and believes
    that this is the scheme that it can-work most efficiently. The Arts
    Faculty on the other hand, as I understand their views, are used to
    working with an eleven-point scale; when faced with a paper which
    they intuitively feel merits A- or C±, they are forced to give another
    grade which they feel is wronging the students in some way. It is
    relatively easy for sorntbody with a mathtnuttical background to point
    out that the
    difference
    between
    the
    present scale and that to which
    many members of the Arts Faculty have an allegiance is the difference
    between nine points and eleven points; unfortunately, this statement
    seems
    to be rather meaningless to many people.
    As I have pointed out previously, the present grading system
    is the result of a compromise. I think we should give the compromise
    every opportunity to work and allow everybody to get used to it for a
    few years before we throw it overboard. As a representative of the
    Faculty of Science, I must point out finally that to reject a compromise
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    which was arrived at by supposedly democratic methods is not likely
    to increase the faith of the Faculty of Science in the outcome of any
    future negotiations on similar matters.
    D. G. Tuck

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