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SENATE 

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From

SENATE UNDERGRADUATE ADMISSIONS BOARD 

Sub ject.

TRANSFER CREDIT FOR ONTARIO GRADE 

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Date

JULY 16, 1973 

MOTION: ? 

"That transfer credit no longer be granted 

for work taken in Ontario Grade XIII. That 

this policy become effective for admission 

to Spring Semester, 1974 and later." 

(Explanatory Note: If the above motion is approved no transfer 

credit will be given on the basis of Ontario 

Grade XIII work, regardless of when it was 

taken, to those granted admission to this 

University to the Spring semester 1974 and 

later.) 

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MR. H.M. EVANS 

SECRETARY. S 

Subject

TRANSFER CREDIT FOR ONTARIO GRADE XIII 

PAPER SUAB 50 

From

DR. D. MEAKIN, SECRETARY 

SENATE UNDERGRADUATE ADMISSIONS BOARD 

Date ?

16TH JULY, 1973 

SiMON FRASER UNIVERSITY

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MEMORANDUM

I am enclosing a paper relating to Ontario Grade XIII 

for submission to the next meeting of Senate. 

The motion contained therein was passed unanimously 

at a meeting of the Senate Undergraduate Admissions 

Board on July 11th, .1973. 

Attach. 

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SUAB 50 

TO: SENATE UNDERGRADUATE ADMISSIONS BOARD 

FROM: DR. 

D.

MEAKIN, 

SECRETARY, S.U.A.B. 

DATE: 

21ST MARCH, 1973 

SUBJECT: TRANSFER CREDIT FOR ONTARIO GRADE XIII 

INTRODUCTION 

At the present time, Simon Fraser University gives six semester 

hours of transfer credit for each Ontario Grade XIII subject 

completed. I believe that it is time that this policy was 

reviewed, as there have been a considerable number of changes 

in organization and curriculum since the policy was introduced 

in 1969. 

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BACKGROUND 

Ontario secondary schools currently offer two types of pro- 

gramme :-- 

Secondary School Graduation Diploma (Grade XII) 

A

four-year programme with an emphasis on careers. There are 

five different programmes available -- 

Arts and Science 

Business and Commerce 

Science, Technology and Trades 

Agriculture 

Home Economics 

Graduates of the four-year programme are not eligible for 

admission to university, or to many of the programmes offered 

by the Colleges of Applied Arts 

and Technology. 

Secondary School Honours Graduation Diploma (Grade XIII) 

A five-year 

programme with an academic emphasis. It is this 

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programme which is required for university admission, both in 

Ontarioand elsewhere. 

In 1968, the provincial Grade XIII examinations were discontinued, 

perhaps the-key act in a series of major changes which occurred 

in following years. Other changes were:-- 

- reduction of the Grade XIII load from 9 credits to 

7

credits, 

and later to 6 credits 

- freeing of curriculum in prescribed subjects 

- freedom of 

schools

to offer new subjects 

-

variation 

of credits for prescribed subjects 

CURRENT SITUATION 

In dealing with Ontario Grade XIII, we are faced with a rather 

confusing situation, but with the following features:-- 

a)

Ontario Grade XIII courses appear to differ little 

from B.C. Grade XII courses (see details below) 

b)

Ontario students frequently complete their "13 years" 

in twelve. 

c)

There are wide variations in curriculum through 

Ontario. It is no longer possible to assume that 

a student coming out of Ontario Grade XIII has any 

particular background in any of the subjects he has 

taken. 

d)

The absence of a centrally marked examination has 

led to a significant inflation of secondary school 

marks. In the first year of school marking, for 

example, 20% more students in Grade XIII English 

achieved a grade of 60% or better. This could 

result in 

many more marginal students meeting 

university admission requirements. These could run 

into considerable academic difficulty if placed 

directly into 

second-year courses. 

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As a result of this situation, I believe that it is no longer 

appropriate for us to grant transfer credit for Ontario Grade 

XIII. A detailed rationale is given below. 

MOTION: 

" That transfer credit no longer 

. be 

granted for 

work taken in Ontario Grade XIII. 

That this policy becomes effective for admission 

to Spring Semester, 1974 and later. 

RATIONALE 

a)

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Many students 

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completion of 

pared to B.C. 

in Ontario are now accelarated and receive 

aduation Diploma in 12 years. Thus, comple- 

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no longer an I icL.on of Lh 

an additional year of schooling when corn- 

b)

Education received in a high school setting cannot be 

compared with the university experience. Ontario Grade 

XIII is 

the only North American high school work now 

recognized for credit by S.F.U. 

c) With 

the termination of provincial examinations and the 

freeing of curricula in Ontario, there is no consistent 

course content for any subject, nor is there any 

assurance that a standard approaching that of first-year 

university in B.C. has been reached. 

d)

Curriculum studies indicate that, in may subjects, Ontario 

Grade XIII curriculum is comparable to B.C. Grade XII. 

For example:-- 

i)

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Service 

for Admission to College and University 

(SACU) recently carried out a detailed cross-Canada 

study of math curricula in connection with the 

establishment of a maths achievement test. This 

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showed that the Ontario Grade XIII Math curriculum 

(as well as it could be defined) contained a 

maximum of 2 months work above B.C. Grade XII. 

This would represent far less than a single 3-sem- 

ester hour university course. Currently only unas- 

signed credit is given for Maths. 

ii)

Biology 11 and 12 cover all the material in Ontario 

Grade XIII biology. This is confirmed by a letter 

received from a student (Appendix I). Currently, 

students with B.C. Grade XII Biology are given 

standing for Bisc 101, 102, whereas Ontario students 

are given credit. Ontario students thus receive a 

6-hours credit advantage over B.C. students for the 

same work. 

iii) 

Physics recently found it necessary to change the 

credit awarded for Grade XIII Physics from Phys 101, 

102(6) to unassigned credit. They had found that 

students from Ontario were not prepared to enter 

200-level Physics directly, even though this is 

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the normal level of entry for students from B.C. 

GLadc XII. 

iv)

Students from Ontario Grade XIII Chemistry are 

required to enter the sequence from Chem 104, the 

same starting point used for students from B.C. 

Chemistry 12. Again, Ontario students are given a 

6-semester-hour credit advantage over B.C. students 

for completing a course using the same text and lab 

manual. 

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V) ?

Language courses. Course descriptions do not 

provide adequate information on the proficiency 

reached. In fact, proficiency is often more depen- 

dent on factors other than formal courses taken. 

However, all incoming students who take a language 

course are given a placement test. Any student 

given advanced placement is given appropriate credit 

through the Course Challenge mechanism, so it is 

unnecessary to grant transfer credit for Grade XIII 

language courses. 

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Courses in other Arts subjects are more difficult 

to assess, since course descriptions do not define 

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the sophistication required. Also, the prerequi- 

site structure in these subjects is less restric- 

tive and no formal prerequisites are essential to 

proceed to second-year work with a good prospect 

for success. However, it is probably reasonable 

to assume that Ontario Grade XIII Arts courses 

are not uniformly of a higher standard than Science 

courses, which are definitely more equivalent to 

B.C. Grade XII. 

e)

The University of British Columbia, which for many years 

has not been giving transfer credit for Ontario Grade 

XIII Math, Physics and Chemistry, 

• stopped giving credit 

for the other subjects in 1971. (See Appendix 2 and 3). 

f)

No other university in Western Canada (with perhaps one 

exception) recognizes Ontario Grade XIII as being above 

their own province's Grade XII. 

g)

Many 

universities in 

Ontario now admit students from 

B.C. Grade XII on the same basis as those from Ontario 

Grade XIII. 

h)

This University's somewhat more liberal policy with 

regard to Ontario Grade XIII has recently caused a num- 

ber of questions to be raised in regard to teacher certi- 

fication and salary levels. 

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THE UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA ?

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January 20th, 1971 

Mr. Denys Me akin 

Director of Admissions 

Simon Fraser University 

Burnaby 2, B.C. 

Dear Mr. Meakin: 

re

Grade 13, Ontario 

Enclosed with this note is a circular 

that we are now sending to 

applicants 

from outside British Columbia. It represents no change in 

policy except relative to Grade 13 Ontario. 

For some 

time we have been unable to grant Freshmen credit for 

Chemistry, 'Mathematics or Physics taken in Grade 13 Ontario, as they do 

not represent a level of studies substantially different from the courses 

offered in our Grade 12. With all governmental curricular controls now, 

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removed in 

Ontario we can no longer offer University credit for courses 

given in 

secondary schools. 

Incidentall y 

, we are now settled in our resolve to consider the 

normal "first degree" to be one involvin 

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four years or the eciuivalent of 

university-level study beyond secondary school. The institutions offeriru 

a 3-year degree with an additionni year to give an "honours 

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degree are 

in

our

view Siving a sub-standard 3-year degree and a proper 4-year degree - 

the term "honours" notwithstanding (Calgary 

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has seen the light and has 

dropped all 3-year degrees). 

Best wishes. 

Yours sincerely 

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