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DRAFT UNTIL APPROVED BY SENATE
MINUTES OF MEETING OF SENATE OF SIMON FRASER UNIVERSITY
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HELD MONDAY, OCTOBER
5, 1970,
EAST CONCOURSE CAFETERIA,
7:30 P.M.
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OPEN SESSION
PRESENT:
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,Strand, K. T. ?
Chairman
,Baird, D. A.
Basham, G. D.
Birch, D. R.
Bradley, R. D.
Burstein, K. R.
Funt, B. L.
Hamilton, C. L.
,Hamilton, W. M.
,Harper, R.J.C.
-Lachlan, A. H.
' McAninch, J. R.
'Nugridge, I.
,O'Connell, M. S.
Pate, B. D.
Rieckhoff, K. E.
,Rogow, R.
Sadleir, R.M.F.S.
Stratton, S. T.
Sullivan, D. H.
Turnbull, A. L.
- Weinberg, H.
Wilson, B. C.
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Evans, H. M.
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Secretary
Kelsey, I. B.
Norsworthy, Mrs. R.
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Recording Secretary
- Campbell, M. J.
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Caple, K. P.
Claridge, R. W.
• Drache, Mrs. S.
.Ellis, J. F.
Freiman, Mrs. L.
Hean, A.F.C.
Kenward, J. K.
McDougall, A. H.,
,McLean, C. H.
Vidaver, W. E.
Alexander, H. L.
Bumsted, J. M.
Chase, J.
Hobler, P. N.
Meakin, D.
ABSENT:
IN ATTENDANCE:
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The Chairman called upon the Secretary of Senate to read the
results of recent elections to Senate. H. Evans announced that
the Faculty of Education had elected D. R. Birch from September 21,
1970
to May
31, 1971,
replacing B. R. D'Aoust for the remainder of
his term of office; and that Joint Faculty had elected B. D. Pate
from September
15, 1970
to July
31, 1971,
to temporarily replace
R. L. Carlson; and R.M.F.S. Sadleir from September
30, 1970
to
December
31, 1970,
to temporarily replace R. C. Brown.
Moved by K. Rieckhoff, seconded by D. Baird,
"That the newly elected Senators be seated
on Senate."
MOTION CARRIED
Senators Birch, Pate and Sadleir were welcomed by the Chairman
and were seated on Senate.
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved as circulated.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the Open Session of September
14, 1970
were
approved as distributed.
3.
BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES
There was no business arising from the minutes.
4.
REPORT OF CHAIRMAN
There was no report by the Chairman.
5.
REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
a) Academic Planning Committee
i) Paper
S.406 -
Proposed Archaeological Studies Program
B. Wilson asked Senate to be prepared to recognize resource
people in connection with the submission from the Academic Planning
Committee, and advised that Professors Alexander and Hobler from
Archaeological Studies, and Dr. J. M. Bumsted of the History
Department, were standing by to speak to the papers on the Proposed
Archaeological Studies Program and the Proposed Arts Program.
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Moved by D. Sullivan, seconded by K. Rieckhoff,
"That the proposal contained in Paper S.406,
which is that Archaeological Studies become
a Department and be permitted to offer the
minimum program described within the document,
be adopted."
D. Sullivan explained that the proposal had gone through the
necessary academic processes of the Faculty and the Academic
Planning Committee, and that it could require more time and space
but would entail structural changes to an existing program. He
stated that the program necessary to mount the minimum core
courses would not necessarily require more monetary resources
than are at present available. It was also pointed out that
students would be able to receive major and honors work for a
B.A. degree in Archaeological Studies. He requested that Professors
Hobler and Alexander, the proposers of the program, be permitted to
speak and to answer questions Senators had on the proposal.
The representatives from Archaeological Studies stated that
archaeology is a discipline of its own and as such should be recog-
nized as a department on its own, similar to other departments with-
in the Faculty of Arts.
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They distributed copies of a proposed schedule of course offer-
ings for the program (a paper subsequently numbered S.406a).
Senators then asked questions of Professors Alexander and
Hobler and Dean Sullivan with regard to archaeology being a distinct
discipline and how transfer students would fit into the proposed
schedule.
Moved by L. Funt, seconded by A. Turnbull,?
"That the question be divided."
As there was no objection, the question was divided and the
motion on the floor then read,
"That Archaeological Studies be permitted
to offer the minimum program described in
Paper S.406."
S. Stratton enquired whether the proposal had been considered
by the Academic Planning Committee, and whether it was considered a
new program. The Chairman indicated that it had been considered,
that the program was not considered new, but the portion relating
to establishment of a Department was new.
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D. Sullivan emphasized that the core program could be mounted
with available resources. He was supported by K. Rieckhoff who
stated that as there is no comparative program existing in the
province, as considerable interest has been shown in it by students,
as it is academically sound, and as it requires no additional funds
immediately, the program should be established.
Question was called on the motion, "That Archaeological Studies
be permitted to offer the minimum program described in Paper S.406,"
and a vote taken.
NOTION CARRIED
Debate then commenced on the other part of the divided question,
reading,
"That the proposal contained in Paper S.406,
that Archaeological Studies become a Depart-
ment, be adopted."
D. Sullivan specified that departments and schools that have
achieved academic status are recognized as distinct groups within
a university, and added that, as a Department, Archaeological Studies
would have sole jurisdiction over its own students and could recommend
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its own degree candidates.
R. harper spoke strongly in favor of interdisciplinary studies
and opposed the concept of separate departments for specific disci-
plines. B. Wilson felt that there were insufficient faculty members
within the program initially to establish the area as a department at
this time. A. Turnbull did not approve of granting departmental
status which would place Archaeological Studies in a priority bargain-
ing position for access to resources and implementation of its programs.
H. Weinberg supported the motion in that the proposal was for an
interdisciplinary department. W. Hamilton agreed that Senate should
approve the proposal and forward its decision to the Board of Governors
for action when the necessary resources are available.
It was pointed out by Dr. Strand that approval of this motion did
not mean immediate implementation. Implementation would be worked out
by theAàademic Planning Committee.
Question was called on the question to establish Archaeological
Studies as a Department, and a vote taken.
MOTION CARRIED
10 in favor?
7 opposed
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(Note: Five new courses were included in Paper S.436 - Archaeology
371-5, Archaeology Theory; Archaeology
375-5,
Fossil Man;
Archaeology 474-5, Regional Studies in Archaeology - North
America - Southwest; Archaeology 475-5, Regional Studies in
Archaeology - North America - Arctic; Archaeology 476-5,
Regional Studies in Archaeology - North America - Northwest
Pacific.
Paper S.406 was approved, with the section pertaining to
establishment of a Department to await implementation through
the Academic Planning Committee and Board. Dates for intro-
duction of the above courses were included in the paper, but
under Senate Rules, as no waiver motion was passed, the
courses could not be introduced for at least two semesters,
i.e. prior to Fall 71-3.)
ii) Paper S.407 - Proposed Arts Program
Moved by U. Sullivan, seconded by I. Mugridge,
"That the Arts program, as outlined in Paper
S.407, be approved in principle with the
understanding that the specific extent of its
implementation and requested fundings will be
explored by the Academic Planning Committee."
D. Sullivan introduced the paper covering the Proposed Arts
Program and stated that it had been through the procedure outlined
for new programs. He added that the proposal was a way of offering
courses throughout the University on an interdisciplinary basis,
that it was a way to test a number of ideas on course offerings
with the same control on course quality as at present, and that it
was a way to make optimal use of elective courses and available
resources. He said that the Faculty would like to experiment with
quality control on material not now available in the regular cur-
riculum.
He emphasized that it was a pilot program, and that courses
indicated suggested examples only. He noted the need for constraints.
He stressed tiiatany course proposed would be fully reviewed by the
Faculty of Arts Curriculum Committee and only then would come forward
to Senate with expectation of careful review by this body.
R. Rogow indicated that some of his reservations were reduced
by the assurances given by the Dean on rationing, criteria, and
method of review before introduction, but expressed some concern
because of lack of clarity, with particular reference to claims of
experimental, imaginative and cooperative.
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Dean Sullivan suggested there would be time-lag from original
suggestion to possible introduction of a course, to ensure adequate
study of criteria, competence and resources.
C. Hamilton expressed concern on the vagueness of recommenda-
tions, and asked for clarification on the position of the Department
of English. Dean Sullivan indicated that the majority of members in
English would
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prefer to proceed even further than suggested, but do
not have the resources.
Professor J. Bumsted, of the History Department, answered a
number of questions on the innovative and imaginative nature of the
program, with several Senators claiming that the samples of programs
shown exhibited little in the way of imagination or innovation.
Amendment was moved by G. Basham, seconded by R. McAninch,
"That the second sentence of the second
main paragraph of Paper S.407 be amended
to read, 'The Steering Committee, which
will include three students - one from
each of the Faculties - selected by the
Student Society, acting as a curriculum
committee for the program, will operate
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under the following general ground rules,"'
K. Rieckhoff enquired how students would be in a better position
than faculty to assess genuine student demand for the proposed courses,
to which G. Basham replied that students should not be denied the
opportunity to select the faculty member who would teach an innovative
and imaginary course.
Question was called on the amendment, and a vote taken.
AMENDMENT CARRIED
9 in favor
1 opposed
Many questions were presented by Senators. Query was raised on
the suggestion of a Pass/Fail approach. D. Sullivan indicated that
if this were proposed for any suggested course, it would come to
Senate for consideration.
W. Hamilton and K. Burstein indicated serious reservations.
Discussion then centered on a comparison of the proposed programs
with the General Education courses. It was suggested that credit be
given for General Education courses rather than mount this new proposal.
There was disagreement in the body.
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Moved by B. Wilson, seconded by I. Mugiidge,
"That the Arts Program as outlined in
Paper S.407 be referred back to the
Academic Planning Committee for further
study."
Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO REFER CARRIED
iii) Paper S.408 - Proposed Computing Science Program
Moved by L. Funt, seconded by A. Lachlan,
"That Senate approve establishment in
principle of a program in Computing
Science as outlined in Paper S.408."
L. Funt outlined the background material and stated that the
program represents one in wide use in major universities in North
America. He said the Faculty of Science had recommended that the
program be a viable part of the Department of Mathematics, with a
long term possibility of it becoming a separate department. He
stressed the opinion that the program would fill a real need within
the University, and that under earlier procedures it was given
priority one in the Science Faculty.
A. Lachlan said that the general trend of the Department of
Mathematics view was for some scaling down of the program and of
altering the emphasis from a specialized to a service aspect,
partly because of the inception of a similar program at UBC.
Moved by K. Burstein, seconded by R. Bradley,
"That Paper S.408 be referred back to the
Academic Planning Committee to seek rele-
vant information and submit a recommendation
to Senate."
It was pointed out by B. Wilson, Academic Vice-President, that
in future the Academic Planning Committee would indeed make a
recommendation on acceptance, rejection, or modification of programs
brought before it.
Question was called on the motion to refer, and a vote taken.
MOTION TO REFER CARRIED
10 in favor ?
6 opposed
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6. REPORTS OF FACULTIES ?
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There were no reports of Faculties.
7. OTHER BUSINESS
a)
Notices of Motion
There were no notices of motion.
b)
Date of Next Meeting
It was noted that the next meeting of Senate will be on Monday,
November 9, 1970, due to the timing of the A.U.C.C. meeting.
c)
Other Items
There were no other items.
d)
Confidential Matters
The meeting recessed briefly at 10:35 p.m. prior to moving into
Closed Session.
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H. M. Evans
Secretary
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